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so good evening everybody and welcome to

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our March council meeting I'm Mayor Mike

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Bodsworth and it's a pleasure to welcome

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everyone joining us here tonight at

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Stribling Reserve in Lorne for our first

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offsite meeting of the year we love

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having these meetings  around the Shire

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in the

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Wards  this meeting is also being live

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streamed so a big welcome to those

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tuning in online and of course welcome

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to my fellow counselors including

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counselor Liz Patterson who's joining

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online tonight  live captioning will

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accompany the the live stream of this

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meeting we hope that this assists those

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who may have hearing difficulties I'd

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like to acknowledge that here in Lorne we

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meet on Gadubanud Country I pay my

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respects to Gadubanud Elders past

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present and emerging Surf  Coast Shire

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council is committed to walking with

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traditional owners on a reconciliation

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journey that recognizes and celebrates

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culture and the unique land sea and

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waterway country of the Surf  Coast

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I'd also like to acknowledge Aboriginal

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people attending or viewing this meeting

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tonight as always we have so many

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exciting and inspiring things taking

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place across the Shire of particular note

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is the five-part online series titled

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tourism reimagined and The Great Ocean

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Road held during February and March 

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by The Great Ocean Road communities

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Network or GORCN  GORCN invited

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internationally recognized speakers and

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key public agencies responsible for

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tourism planning to share their insights

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and plans for tourism the series

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explored the argument for tourism's

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transition from an unsustainable

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industrial model that equates success

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with increasing numbers of visitors to a

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regenerative and resilient model that

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will enhance our communities and

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tourists experiences as it sustains the

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character and cultures and economy of

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our region also taking place this month

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is the Lorne Sculpture Biennale which is

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currently in full swing and installed

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until the 30th of March and I had the

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pleasure of a quick whip around the

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sculptures  before tonight's meeting I

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saw Councilor Phelps out there also

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perusing the

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sculptures  the Biennale is drawing

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visitors to Lorne to take in a diverse

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and memorable range of art from 

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lifelong art lovers to casual observers

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taking a beachside stroll this event and

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its vast creations capture a wide

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audience the Biennale is a great example of

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an event that supports a number 

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of our goals including cultural tourism

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supporting first nation's cultural

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expression supporting the aspirations of

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emerging artists and creatives and a

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thriving connected creative

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community and now to our agenda for

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tonight so let's get

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underway Council meetings operate

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according to our adopted governance

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rules which include the following

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procedures during the meeting the mover

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of a motion or an amendment may speak

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for a maximum of 5 minutes to open the

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debate then a further 2 minutes to make

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a closing statement any other counselor

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including the seconder may speak to a

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motion for no more than 3 minutes I ask

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that members of the gallery avoid using

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mobile phones during the meeting as this

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can be distracting for counselors as

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well as other members of the gallery I

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also note that any un unauthorized

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recording of the meeting is prohibited

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under our governance

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rules however you can access a copy of

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the official  recording on our

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website after the meeting I'll now I'll

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now recite the pledge as a sign of

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councilor's commitment as counselors we

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carry out our responsibilities with

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diligence and integrity and make 

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fair decisions of lasting value for the

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well-being of our community and

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environment I turn to apologies I'm

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aware that we have an apology tonight

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from councelor Joel Grist can I please

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have a mover and a second to accept this

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apology councelor Barker and seconded by

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councelor Stapleton thank you and all in

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favor thanks councilors that's carried

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unanimously to confirm confirmation of

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minutes can I please have a mover and a

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second to confirm the minutes of the

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council meeting held on 25th of February

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2025 moved by councelor Phelps seconded

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by  Councilor Walker all in

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favor thank you and those

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against  councilor Barker did you vote

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 you're abstaining okay thank

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you and the motion is carried 7-1

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 is that correct okay thank

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you  leave of absence request  do we

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have any leave of absence requests

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tonight

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no declarations of conflict of interest

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if a counselor or an officer has a

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conflict of interest they must declare

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it now and do so again just prior to the

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item being discussed the councelor and or

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officer will be requested to leave

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Chambers or for those online to be

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placed by the host in a virtual waiting

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room whilst the matter is being

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considered once the matter is resolved

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the counselor and or officer will be

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returned to the meeting are there any

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declarations of conflict of interest in

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relation to tonight's agenda

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councelor Phelps I'd like to declare

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that I have an interest in item 4.2

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future management of the Winchelsea  Shire

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Hall as I'm a member of the non profit

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organization Winchelsea community house

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and until the end of 2024 I was also the

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volunteer chair of the house committee I

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note that exemptions to the conflict of

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interest framework are available under

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the Local Government Act with regard to

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involvement in non for-profit

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organizations which advocate to council

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I have thoroughly considered this matter

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and while I do not believe that I have a

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direct conflict that will preclude me

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from this decision making in the

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interest of public transparency and

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integrity and with an abundance of

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caution I will step out for this item

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albeit reluctantly and with

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disappointment thank you councelor

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Phelps  we now turn to presentations

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do any councilors have presentations for

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tonight councelor Walker first and then

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we'll go to councelor Barker thank you

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Mayor  firstly welcome to Lorne our

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beautiful backyard where are here so 

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just going to give an update of what

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we've been doing in Lorne down here since

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we're in this beautiful part of the

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world so

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 you can see where  we are now it's

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beautiful and and one I acknowledge is

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the the surf out there is probably one

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of the best in Victoria and it's been

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voted that way too which is amazing so

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 you know Shire has done an amazing job

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to keep that going which is pretty

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amazing  we've done some great things

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 not great things  but things

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that we're working on which is really

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good is  since Council declared a key

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worker accommodation crisis in May 2021

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council's been working with the Lorne

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Community

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 basically to with the committee for

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Lorne housing subgroup to identify an

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affordable housing project that will

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target year-round workers including

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those serving residents like health

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education emergency services and those

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servicing visitors including combination

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food services council is facilitating a

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series of workshop starting in May with

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the Lorne Community representative to

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select the model and scope of the

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project  for affordable housing in

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Lorne  it's an ongoing issue but

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hopefully we can get to the bottom and

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work together for that  you'll see the

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netball court up here is getting worked on

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which will hopefully be ready and and be

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ready by the first game coming up soon

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which will be pretty amazing  and

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we've recently just had the 

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basketball court resurfaced downstairs 

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due to mold problems  over the years

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it's it's open it's an amazing facility

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we've got down there and and to the

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community we've now got a pickle ball

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court indoor pick ball court which makes

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a lot of people happy with that too 

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 and finally I want to just  pass on

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our sympathies to Karen Ford's family

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Karen's  was an amazing Committee

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Member  who passed away this week 

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in a place where she loved  in Lorne

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and she had the beautiful shop down on

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the forshore ? to go and she was

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always a a person who you'd stop for a

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chat  10 minutes later and she always

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made everyone welcome to  Lorne where

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we were and everything all that so

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just want to pass sympathies to Karen and

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her family as part of that  welcome to

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line thanks thanks councelor Walker

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councelor Barker thanks Mayor as required

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under our councilors and candidates in

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state or federal elections policy I wish

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to inform Council that I'm an officially

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endorsed candidate for the libertarian

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party for the upcoming federal election

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I've advised the CEO of this in writing

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as required by the policy I intend to

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take formal leave of absence from

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Council during the official election

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period and this leave will be

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unpaid thank you Councilor Barker

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 we now turn to public question

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and submission time  public question

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time is a time for community members to

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ask questions or make a submission at a

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council meeting and tonight we have nine

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community members who've sub submitted

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13

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questions so our first is

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Chris

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Rogers  as Chris is not attending in

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person  so I'll read Chris's question

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on his behalf after contacting Surf 

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Coast Shire website inquiring about the

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reopening of Coline Road in

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Anglesea I received the standard

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non-committal email response now that a

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new counsil has been appointed will you

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stop sitting on your hands and tell the

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public your plans for the road reopening

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the Eden Project seems to have stalled

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the previous alignment of Coal Mine Road

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which was closed due to Public Safety

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risks no longer exists the decision to

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keep the newly to keep the road closed

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was made by Council and is unrelated to

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safety what are your plans and  Chris

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if you're watching thanks for your

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question and I'm going to refer to the

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CEO for a

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response thank you Mayor Bodsworth hello

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Chris and thanks very much for your

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question  you're right   but thank

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you for your question Alcoa was required

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to reconstruct the Coal Mine Road on a

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new alignment as part of the mine

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Rehabilitation works and council at the

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time resolved that the newly

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reconstructed road would remain closed

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until there was a clear understanding of

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the future of the old mine site once

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this future  use was confirmed it was

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intended that Council would consult with

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the community regarding whether Coal Mine

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Road should be re

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reopened and  Council I guess has been

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waiting for that but it has dragged as

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you point out it has dragged a long time

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so it hasn't been on our work program

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 the the intention is with our new

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Council to brief counselors on the

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current situation and we will then as

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part of that determine  how to bring

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that back that project back on to our

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work program  given it has been taking

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such a long time so we are hoping that

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we'll be able to well our intention is

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that later on this year we'll be able to

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talk publicly about what our process is

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to determine the future of that road and

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what that looks like given there's been

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no movement in relation to the mine and

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its future use so thank you for raising

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it's true it's been delayed  and  we

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will look to bring

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 that project onto our work program

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thank you thank you CEO and thanks Chris

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for the question and next question is

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from Matt Hines from

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Torquay  at the so Matt submitted two

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questions the first one at the November

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2023 council meeting the council

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approved the establishment of an

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lgbtqia plus reference group subject to

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support from the local lgbtqia plus

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community and resolved to conduct

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targeted engagement with that Community

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to identify their need and  interest in

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a reference group I have looked back

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through Council minutes since then and

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cannot see any report on this engagement

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what has happened to this and who was

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proposed to be engaged as Council will

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be aware many councils across Victoria

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have an have an have an Avenue

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established to enable the

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lgbtqia plus Community to be engaged in

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decisions that directly affect us

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currently Surf Coast is not one of them

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how does council propose to engage with

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the lgbtqia plus community in matters

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that directly affect us Matt has a

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second question would you like to answer

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the first one thank you Mayor Bodsworth

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 we've done quite a lot of work in

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this space over the last couple of years

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so I might refer it to  the GM of

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community life who's responsible for

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that work to respond to Matt's first

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question thanks Robin and through your

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Mayor Bodsworth thank you for your

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question Matt  following the November

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2023 meeting our staff sought feedback

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from members of the local lgbtqia plus

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Community respondents recommended that

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Council continue doing what we are doing

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now including activities such as 

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Hobbit day flying the rainbow flag using

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pronouns in signatures and indicating

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spaces are inclusive and

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welcoming the feedback also showed there

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wasn't strong community support for a

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reference group without it being linked

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to a

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specific project which we didn't have at

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the time instead most respondents

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preferred to remain in contact with

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Council on an as needs basis for example

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being consulted on projects such as the

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health and well-being

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plan with regards to engaging the LGBT

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qia plus community on matters that

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directly affect them Council continues

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to engage with groups and individuals

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such as the Surf  Coast for equality the

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youth Hub and the rainbow play group

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Council also has a social Equity working

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group which helps officers with gender

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and Equity impact assessments for new

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projects services or policies and we are

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always Keen to connect with others to

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Broad broaden this

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representation thank you Mr White for

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the response I'll ask on Matt's behalf

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his second question in the recent

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council plan consultation 5.4% of

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respondents or 45 individuals identified

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as being part of the

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lgbtqia plus Community upon selecting

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this respondents were then asked

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additional questions around

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discrimination and inclusion can the

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council please provide a report on the

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findings of this specific aspect of the

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consultation in order for the community

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to understand the issues that we face

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and the ideas we have for Council to

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better meet our

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needs thanks Matt for your second

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question I'll also pass that through to

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our GM of community life thanks Robin

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and and through your may as you have

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outlined Matt consultation for the

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council plan included questions on the

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experience of various cohorts within our

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community including members of the

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lgbtqia plus Community the data was not

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captured with a view to providing a

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separate public report on the detailed

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findings but instead said it will

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support the development of our key

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strategic docents including the

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council plan the data will also help

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inform council's work in relation to the

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health and well-being Act and the gender

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equality act thank you Matt for your

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questions thank you our next question is

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from Brent McGregor from Torquay and I know

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that Brent has joined us tonight thanks

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for coming

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Brent I'll invite you to come up and ask

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your question please

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at the last council meeting a resolution

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moved by councelor Patterson and

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seconded by councelor Walker and carried

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7even to two included the first point

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that Council Advocates to the federal

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government to formally change the date

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of Australia Day my question is what

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steps have been taken to action this

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first point in the resolution

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and what response has been

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received thanks for the question Brent

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and thanks for coming to join us live

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tonight as you may be aware the federal

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election date is likely to be de be

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declared later this week after which the

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current government will enter caretaker

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mode in caretaker mode governments avoid

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making major policy decisions Council

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will therefore write to the Commonwealth

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government following the outcome of the

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election Council officers are also

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preparing a report on updated advocacy

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priorities for the Surf  kshire which

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will be considered by Council following

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the

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election this report will include a

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change of date for Australia day as a

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new advocacy priority in line with the

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resolution from the February council

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meeting I guess I'll see you in April

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thank you Brent thanks for coming

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tonight our next question is from Julie

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Dingle angal SE and Julie's also here in

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person thanks for coming tonight

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Julie thank you for having me thank you

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councilors  I just wanted to ask in

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light of the resolution passed at last

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council meeting where cultural awareness

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training is to be made available to

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counselors before the 1st of September

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2025 I'm wondering how this important

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process is progressing and if the CEO

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could please report on this thank you so

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thanks juliia I'm going to answer your

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question tonight  officers are working

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with traditional owners and other First

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Nations providers to schedule cultural

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awareness training for counselors

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training will be offered in the months

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ahead and a report will be prepared in

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line with the resolution and brought

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back to Council in

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September thank you very much thanks for

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your question

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Julie and next question is from Naomi

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Stewart from

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to  regarding 26 silver I Street

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T the initial engineering referral

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comments received under Freedom of

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Information for certificate of

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compliance 26 silver ey Street PG

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2383 16th of May 23 the following was

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advised the planning scheme dictates

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Vehicles parked in the last space of a

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dead end accessway in public car Parks

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must be able to ESS in a forward

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Direction engineering weren't satisfied

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that Vehicles would be able to erress

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the site in a forward Direction via one

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turning maneuver amended plans were

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provided by the applicant which were

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approved by engineering 7th of August 23

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advising that turning templates provided

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were satisfactory and carpik dimensions

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were in accordance with the relevant

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Australian standard this was raised

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through public questions to council 25th

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of June 24 the CEO's response was

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officers requested additional

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information on parking movement from

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Australia mind has since provided

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officers with vehicle turning movements

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which showed that cars can exit in a

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forward movement from these parking

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spaces construction is underway and it

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would appear that what is being

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constructed is different can Council

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please confirm that there are still

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three on-site car parks and these

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vehicles can exit the site in forward

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motion as per the planning

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scheme  so I'm going to refer that

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first question there are two to the CEO

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for response thanks thanks Naomi for

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your question and I and the general

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manager of placemaking and environment

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has checked  on the plans and so he'll

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respond to your

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question okay thanks May so yes the the

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planning team have looked at the most

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recent plans that we've got on

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file and  these form part of the

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certificate of compliance which was

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endorsed earlier last year so the 18th

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of January 24

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 so those plans  do show three car

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parking spaces with Dimensions that are

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compliant with the Australian standards

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and they do allow vehicles to exit in a

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forward manner  given your concerns

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I'll refer that onto our  teams so

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that we can have a check that what's

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being constructed actually complies with

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those

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plans thank you  the second question

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from Naomi Stewart is lot 628 on plan of

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subdivis Vision 829 221 M known as 20 26

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silver I straight toque which shows on

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the subdivision plans and mCP that there

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is a 5 meter setback from of the

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frontage from Silver ey Street and a 3M

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setback on the side from Rosella Road as

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you

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are very aware there has been a huge

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amount of history and Community concern

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with this block due to the proposal for

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12 homes to be built for people

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experienc ing s significant mental

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health challenges in t the address of

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this property since it was created has

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always been 26 silver ey Street in all

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correspondence with Council and the

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owner has always referred to this as 26

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silver ey Street yet very recently in

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communication with Council this now

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appears to have been changed to two

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Rosella Road toque of note is that on

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mind Australia website they are still

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referring to this as 26 silver I Street

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to key can Council explain why there are

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now why they are now referring to this

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site as two Rosella road which appears

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to be in contradiction to the plan of

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subdivision and mCP of Straton estate

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which was formally approved by

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Council thanks naromi I'll pass that

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through also to the GM of placemaking

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and environment sure happy to take that

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and this is  this is a good pickup

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Naomi and hopefully I'll be able to shed

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some light on your question  so the

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street address was changed on the 12th

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of December 2024 and that was on request

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from the owner and this isn't unusual 

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in this particular

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circstance  so street addresses are

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allocated prior to the plan of

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subdivision being reGristered and then at

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that time Corner allotments are

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allocated street address based on the

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likely entrance to the property however

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those  elements can can change  and

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they don't actually form any official

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part of the title of the property so we

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received the request as the property

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entrance will be from Rosella Road and

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this means that we can comply with 

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the appropriate Australian New Zealand

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standards which  require that address

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numbers being assigned according to the

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location of the point of access for that

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address thank you our next question is

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from Fred Preston from Toy I think that

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Fred was expected tonight it's a

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submission okay this is a submission

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from

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Fred and Fred hasn't joined us

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tonight oh so Fred would you like to

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come forward

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and  ask your question or if you

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prefer I can I can read loud on your

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behalf would you prefer that okay  so

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I'm just going to consult with the CEO

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it's a submission okay so it's this is

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being taken as a

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submission have all councilors read and

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understood to theater troops submission

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about the upcoming lease Arrangements at

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the multi-arts center in to and secondly

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is Council aware of TT's reasons for

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seeking to continue the previous lease

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arrangements and Fred I can  advise

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that councilors have had access to

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advice from officers

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including tonight's report as well as

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correspondence directed to them by the

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different groups so thanks for

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that  the next question is from

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Virginia aldd who is also joining us

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tonight thanks for coming tonight

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Virginia we'll invite you to come and

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ask your question thank

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you on mute to this so bear with

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me okay in revie reviewing the council

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docents

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we have identified

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inaccuracies and a unbalanced

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presentation of pros and cons regarding

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lease options and an unclear process for

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risk

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identification this leads to a two-part

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question the first question is what is

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the rationale behind the council's

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approach to structuring leases with Arts

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organizations and how does this approach

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compare

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to leasing arrangements for other

00:26:31.520 --> 00:26:34.520
community groups and security of tenure

00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:37.216
that's the first question will I do the

00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:40.240
second one  sure go ahead and ask the

00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:43.496
second one thanks Virginia okay thank

00:26:43.520 --> 00:26:46.520
you the second question is in the risk

00:26:48.360 --> 00:26:51.360
assessments the of the specific lease

00:26:51.760 --> 00:26:54.760
options were all potential disadvantages

00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:58.480
thoroughly considered and was their

00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:02.375
consultation with the Mac User groups

00:27:02.399 --> 00:27:05.399
during this process thank you thank you

00:27:05.840 --> 00:27:07.616
Virginia and thanks again for coming

00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:09.736
tonight I'm going to refer this question

00:27:09.760 --> 00:27:11.736
to the CEO for a

00:27:11.760 --> 00:27:14.056
response Virginia it's great to chat to

00:27:14.080 --> 00:27:17.080
you earlier tonight  and also to hear

00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:19.576
your question given the work has been

00:27:19.600 --> 00:27:21.496
led by the general manager of

00:27:21.520 --> 00:27:23.375
placemaking and environment I'll ask him

00:27:23.399 --> 00:27:26.399
to respond to your questions thank you

00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:29.416
thank you  thank you Mayor thanks

00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:31.736
Virginia and good to see so many people

00:27:31.760 --> 00:27:34.760
down here representing this evening 

00:27:36.080 --> 00:27:39.056
so  a very short answer is we don't

00:27:39.080 --> 00:27:40.616
have an approach that's specifically for

00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:43.640
Arts organizations so more generally the

00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:46.255
approach that we apply to leases and

00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:48.856
licenses are governed by a policy of

00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.176
council and that's called council's

00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:54.200
property use agreements policy  and in

00:27:54.679 --> 00:27:56.255
when we when we're talking about

00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:58.216
Community groups so non-commercial

00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:00.096
groups there are specific elements of

00:28:00.120 --> 00:28:02.056
that policy that relate to those types

00:28:02.080 --> 00:28:05.080
of leases and so those typically allow

00:28:06.320 --> 00:28:08.856
for a maxim lease period of up to 5

00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.880
years and so  I guess the other things

00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:14.816
worth pointing out around council's

00:28:14.840 --> 00:28:17.840
General approach  is that  that also

00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.880
outlines a number of  Arrangements

00:28:22.919 --> 00:28:24.895
where Council would establish a license

00:28:24.919 --> 00:28:27.616
with Community groups and users the the

00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:29.895
key point of difference there would

00:28:29.919 --> 00:28:32.919
be that the leases leases Grant

00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:36.096
exclusive use of of a space or a

00:28:36.120 --> 00:28:39.120
facility and licenses  are

00:28:39.399 --> 00:28:42.399
non-exclusive and so more specifically

00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:45.696
 if this helps for the the multiart

00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.720
center the the reference point is a

00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:51.696
decision from Council in August

00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:54.720
2019 where  that decision stated that

00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:57.375
the Surf  Coast Sport and Recreation

00:28:57.399 --> 00:28:59.495
Center would be used as a community-led

00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:01.416
Arts facility when it's no longer

00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.895
required for sport and Recreation

00:29:03.919 --> 00:29:05.976
purposes subject to a number of

00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:07.495
conditions one of them being a

00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:09.775
multidisciplinary Arts Collective

00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:11.856
capable of managing the facility is

00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:13.856
formed  and so that's led to the

00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:16.255
current position where Council has a

00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:19.015
lease and the report before Council this

00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:22.039
evening proposes  continuing a lease

00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:25.296
with  with the

00:29:25.320 --> 00:29:28.320
multi-arts center Inc

00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:31.559
 and that is  again consistent with

00:29:32.399 --> 00:29:34.936
council's property use agreements policy

00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.495
so not a not a specific process for Arts

00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:39.816
organizations but there are some

00:29:39.840 --> 00:29:41.336
arrangements that are quite particular

00:29:41.360 --> 00:29:44.176
to this

00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:47.200
venue  and your second

00:29:48.159 --> 00:29:51.159
question so  the mac and the current

00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:54.736
user groups were consulted as part of

00:29:54.760 --> 00:29:57.760
the review of the lease and  

00:29:58.320 --> 00:30:00.135
officers consider that the advantages

00:30:00.159 --> 00:30:01.775
and disadvantages of the different

00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:03.375
options were considered during that

00:30:03.399 --> 00:30:05.616
review and have been presented for

00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:08.640
councilor's consideration this evening

00:30:08.760 --> 00:30:11.135
and  that matter is now ready for

00:30:11.159 --> 00:30:13.576
Council to consider  in terms of

00:30:13.600 --> 00:30:15.336
declaring their intention to enter into

00:30:15.360 --> 00:30:17.895
a lease which would trigger an

00:30:17.919 --> 00:30:20.456
advertising period  which always

00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:22.096
affords the opportunity for the public

00:30:22.120 --> 00:30:24.775
to provide feedback on that that

00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:27.655
proposal thank you thank you Chris thank

00:30:27.679 --> 00:30:30.679
you thanks Virginia

00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.960
Virginia  next we have a submission

00:30:34.080 --> 00:30:36.655
from jock Jeff regarding the multiart

00:30:36.679 --> 00:30:37.736
center

00:30:37.760 --> 00:30:40.760
lease  Jock's not here in person but

00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:42.736
has submitted that the multiart center

00:30:42.760 --> 00:30:45.760
or the Mac Incorporated supports option

00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:48.255
three which is coming up later in our

00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:51.279
agenda but requests some flexibility in

00:30:51.360 --> 00:30:53.816
the redrafting of the Mac management

00:30:53.840 --> 00:30:56.655
plan as councilors have all been

00:30:56.679 --> 00:30:58.535
provided with copies of the

00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:00.576
submission I've removed some of the

00:31:00.600 --> 00:31:02.936
technical explanation in the interest of

00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:05.375
time however jock has requested that the

00:31:05.399 --> 00:31:08.399
following be considered one electricity

00:31:08.679 --> 00:31:11.679
costs two gas costs three governance

00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.279
constraints four undefined

00:31:15.320 --> 00:31:18.320
kpis so thank you jock for your

00:31:18.679 --> 00:31:21.679
submission  the next question is from

00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:24.775
Zena Carman from belb regarding the

00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:27.375
multi-art center lease is Zena here

00:31:27.399 --> 00:31:30.015
tonight hi Zena would you like to come

00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:31.856
forward and ask your

00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:34.880
question it's also it's also a

00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.456
submission thank you so Zena would you

00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:39.216
like to read your submission thanks

00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:40.216
thank

00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:43.135
you

00:31:43.159 --> 00:31:46.159
 the T theater troop strongly believes

00:31:47.080 --> 00:31:50.080
that option three maintaining the single

00:31:50.399 --> 00:31:52.456
lease structure with the Mac Inc as the

00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:54.936
representative body managing multi-art

00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:57.960
Center is the most efficient approach We

00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:01.200
Believe individual User Group leases

00:32:01.320 --> 00:32:03.135
with the Shire will increase

00:32:03.159 --> 00:32:05.296
administrative burden on user groups as

00:32:05.320 --> 00:32:08.135
well as Council officers and foresee

00:32:08.159 --> 00:32:10.456
challenging requirements for two or

00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:13.296
possibly more leases we envisage

00:32:13.320 --> 00:32:15.296
duplicate and possibly conflicting

00:32:15.320 --> 00:32:18.176
reporting and maintenance requests

00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:20.936
number four I apologize there's a it's

00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.176
very unclear there's a typing error in

00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.936
that it says single lease framework but

00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:28.015
it should have probably said individual

00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.976
lease framework risks  governance

00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:32.216
becoming

00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:34.895
fragmented possible lead to inconsistent

00:32:34.919 --> 00:32:36.775
or conflicting decisions among user

00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:39.176
groups requiring Council officers

00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:41.736
intervention and I think to disrupt

00:32:41.760 --> 00:32:44.495
Community understanding of the mac and

00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:46.495
the existing relationships the mech have

00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:48.255
developed with the Arts community and

00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:49.336
building

00:32:49.360 --> 00:32:51.696
hirers we support keeping building

00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:53.535
management under the experienced Mac

00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:56.176
committee to streamline operations and

00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.336
reduce workloads for all inv

00:32:58.360 --> 00:33:01.360
involved after carefully considering all

00:33:01.600 --> 00:33:04.216
aspects of the lease options presented

00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.936
We Believe option three is fair and

00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:09.960
considerate to all involved thank you

00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:12.456
thank you Zena and thanks very much for

00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.135
coming along to join us live tonight 

00:33:15.159 --> 00:33:18.159
that brings us to the end of public

00:33:19.080 --> 00:33:21.736
questions  we turn to petitions and

00:33:21.760 --> 00:33:23.775
there are no petitions for tonight's

00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:26.176
meeting notices of motion there are no

00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:28.895
notices of motion for tonight's meeting

00:33:28.919 --> 00:33:31.056
so that brings us to the reports part of

00:33:31.080 --> 00:33:32.816
our council

00:33:32.840 --> 00:33:35.840
meeting so the first is item 4.1 council

00:33:36.320 --> 00:33:39.320
plan progress report midye 4 the purpose

00:33:40.159 --> 00:33:42.135
of this report is to note the council

00:33:42.159 --> 00:33:45.096
plan progress report mid year 4 we have

00:33:45.120 --> 00:33:47.495
a recommendation before us does anyone

00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:48.655
wish to move a

00:33:48.679 --> 00:33:51.176
motion councilor stableton is that as

00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:53.296
per the recommendation May thank you

00:33:53.320 --> 00:33:54.775
thank you and do we have a second it for

00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:55.456
that

00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:58.480
motion councilor Walker thank you

00:33:59.679 --> 00:34:02.336
 councilor Stapleton would you like to

00:34:02.360 --> 00:34:05.360
speak to the motion thank you Mayor 

00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:07.775
so this is an important report for

00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:10.536
councilors to note and acknowledge it

00:34:10.560 --> 00:34:13.055
marks sorry I'll move that back a bit is

00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:15.016
that all right I'm getting a bit of

00:34:15.040 --> 00:34:17.496
feedback  it marks the halfway point

00:34:17.520 --> 00:34:19.655
of the final year of our existing

00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:22.679
council plan which runs from 20121 to

00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:25.855
2025 and by way of background I'm sure

00:34:25.879 --> 00:34:28.296
most people realize but the council plan

00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:30.456
is the 4-year strategic plan that's

00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:32.016
developed at the beginning of each new

00:34:32.040 --> 00:34:34.296
Council term to set the way forward for

00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.095
the council  so this council plan

00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:40.119
which is set to conclude  this coming

00:34:40.720 --> 00:34:43.720
September includes 19 strategies  that

00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:45.895
were developed under the seven themes of

00:34:45.919 --> 00:34:48.416
First Nations reconciliation healthy

00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:50.296
connected communities environmental

00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:53.320
leadership sustainable growth diverse

00:34:53.359 --> 00:34:56.359
and robust economy arts and creativity

00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:59.095
and an accountable viable

00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:01.496
Council some people talk about council's

00:35:01.520 --> 00:35:03.656
only being responsible for roads rates

00:35:03.680 --> 00:35:05.696
and rubbish but the reality is that the

00:35:05.720 --> 00:35:07.536
role of local government has evolved

00:35:07.560 --> 00:35:09.815
significantly since the 1950s and the

00:35:09.839 --> 00:35:12.016
obligations of councils have expanded

00:35:12.040 --> 00:35:14.815
over many decades councils are now

00:35:14.839 --> 00:35:17.839
mandated to address much more than roads

00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:19.335
rates and

00:35:19.359 --> 00:35:22.095
rubbish in fact Victorian councils have

00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.416
responsibilities under more than 100

00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:26.656
Victorian acts and regulations including

00:35:26.680 --> 00:35:28.656
responsibility for Municipal health and

00:35:28.680 --> 00:35:30.815
wellbeing there are also many

00:35:30.839 --> 00:35:32.416
Commonwealth acts and regulations

00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:34.496
ministerial directions codes of practice

00:35:34.520 --> 00:35:36.216
Australian standards state and federal

00:35:36.240 --> 00:35:38.416
laws and other guidelines that councils

00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:40.696
must abide by such as mitigation and

00:35:40.720 --> 00:35:42.936
planning for climate change and ensuring

00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:45.016
gender equity in our policies services

00:35:45.040 --> 00:35:48.040
and programs so there's a lot going on

00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:50.856
 importantly it's also recognized that

00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:53.736
not every municipality is the same and

00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:55.736
the mix of local demographics leads to

00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:57.656
different needs which is why each

00:35:57.680 --> 00:35:59.176
council is able to develop its own

00:35:59.200 --> 00:36:02.200
council plan for its own community in

00:36:02.319 --> 00:36:04.095
some communities perhaps all their needs

00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:05.936
and wants would fall within the remit of

00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:08.016
Roads rates and rubbish and to be honest

00:36:08.040 --> 00:36:09.536
that would actually make life a whole

00:36:09.560 --> 00:36:12.016
lot easier but I know that in many

00:36:12.040 --> 00:36:13.776
places and definitely here on the surth

00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.800
coast our community expects much more

00:36:16.839 --> 00:36:19.256
with the process now underway to prepare

00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.280
our new council plan for 2025 to 2029

00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.055
it's a good time to reflect on the goals

00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:27.776
of the existing plan and what has been

00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.055
achieved and what hasn't what are the

00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.575
things we'd like to continue to pursue

00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:34.616
and what are we happy to stop doing we

00:36:34.640 --> 00:36:36.136
know we'll have to need to do some of

00:36:36.160 --> 00:36:38.496
that as well hopefully by reviewing

00:36:38.520 --> 00:36:40.256
actions and achievements over the past

00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:42.295
four years we as a group are better

00:36:42.319 --> 00:36:44.696
place to identify key priorities for the

00:36:44.720 --> 00:36:47.016
next fall there are so many things that

00:36:47.040 --> 00:36:48.856
I could pull out of this council plan

00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.575
progress report  and I will list a few

00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:53.575
but I'll just try to flag some of the

00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:56.295
key achievements  from Over the p over

00:36:56.319 --> 00:36:58.616
the six-month period of the report but I

00:36:58.640 --> 00:37:00.496
do encourage everyone in the community

00:37:00.520 --> 00:37:03.520
to read this report from cover to cover

00:37:03.560 --> 00:37:04.896
 so that you get a better

00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:06.256
understanding of the full breadth of

00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.616
services programs and infrastructure

00:37:08.640 --> 00:37:10.656
that Surf  kshire council is delivering

00:37:10.680 --> 00:37:13.295
for our community now this list is in no

00:37:13.319 --> 00:37:15.616
particular order I just think they give

00:37:15.640 --> 00:37:17.736
give a good breadth of the scope of

00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:19.776
things that Council has worked on over

00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:22.335
that six-month period so one 

00:37:22.359 --> 00:37:24.176
assessment and planning work for the CF

00:37:24.200 --> 00:37:26.376
Wetlands storm water management has been

00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:28.335
a really significant feature feature of

00:37:28.359 --> 00:37:30.656
this Council term and an important

00:37:30.680 --> 00:37:32.335
Milestone was reached with the first two

00:37:32.359 --> 00:37:34.616
years of data collection and Analysis

00:37:34.640 --> 00:37:36.976
completed for wetland vegetation

00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.256
assessments we had the installation of a

00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:42.280
fast EV charger hearing Lorne which is

00:37:42.319 --> 00:37:44.295
the first of four fast charges to be

00:37:44.319 --> 00:37:46.536
installed  using a Victorian

00:37:46.560 --> 00:37:48.256
government grant and we know this one

00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:51.095
has been a long time coming so I'm

00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:52.856
pleased to see it's done and that there

00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:54.815
are charging stations still due to

00:37:54.839 --> 00:37:57.055
coming areas Inlet Angley and wintery by

00:37:57.079 --> 00:37:59.696
the middle of of the year we adopted the

00:37:59.720 --> 00:38:02.416
circular economy action plan we adopted

00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:04.376
the concept plan for the Redevelopment

00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:06.815
of the Angley community and health Hub

00:38:06.839 --> 00:38:09.016
the pankl Creek flood study is now

00:38:09.040 --> 00:38:11.256
underway the draft Urban Futures

00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:13.776
strategy was completed and shared with

00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:16.256
the community the the planning scheme

00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:18.136
review was completed and adopted we

00:38:18.160 --> 00:38:19.856
endorsed the community code design for

00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:21.456
the areas Inlet social and affordable

00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.656
housing project work continued with the

00:38:23.680 --> 00:38:25.295
Lorne and angle SE communities to

00:38:25.319 --> 00:38:27.856
identify initiatives to support access

00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:29.536
to more affordable housing for key

00:38:29.560 --> 00:38:31.896
workers work continues on the program

00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:33.736
for Surf  Coast to achieve Ecco

00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:36.536
destination accreditation parklets or

00:38:36.560 --> 00:38:38.536
outdoor dining options were approved to

00:38:38.560 --> 00:38:40.815
support local businesses the Aries Inlet

00:38:40.839 --> 00:38:43.376
Top Shop design project got underway and

00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:45.736
another amazing Arts Trail was delivered

00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:47.295
I'm almost finished but I've got two

00:38:47.319 --> 00:38:50.176
more  a great program to support

00:38:50.200 --> 00:38:52.335
Community Arts was the creative Halls

00:38:52.359 --> 00:38:55.055
project that delivered $50,000 into some

00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:56.896
of our smaller venues in Winchelsea Sea

00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:59.416
angle SE Lorne and Dean Marsh that

00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:01.616
provided infrastructure to enable those

00:39:01.640 --> 00:39:03.856
groups to host  exhibitions for local

00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:05.976
artists and my final one is the

00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.416
development of a service profile which

00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:11.440
explains what we're doing and why and

00:39:11.640 --> 00:39:13.376
it's a really significant piece of work

00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.416
that will help this counselor group in

00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:17.776
its deliberations over key services and

00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:19.936
priorities that are to be delivered over

00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:22.136
the next fouryear council plan thank you

00:39:22.160 --> 00:39:24.456
Mayor thanks councilor

00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:26.456
Stapleton councilor Walker would you

00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:27.936
like to speak to the item

00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.335
yes please mayam

00:39:30.359 --> 00:39:33.359
 as as councilor St point out you

00:39:34.640 --> 00:39:35.696
there's not any strategies in the

00:39:35.720 --> 00:39:37.016
council plan that are grouped under

00:39:37.040 --> 00:39:38.976
seven themes all contributing to the

00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:39.896
Community

00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:42.776
Vision the council progress plan shows

00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:44.536
some good transparency in a snapshot

00:39:44.560 --> 00:39:46.456
from this cancel term and what has been

00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:47.976
achieved and will continue to be worked

00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:49.575
on over the next 6 months and the

00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:52.256
following budget further this I'm

00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:54.136
looking forward to as a new Council

00:39:54.160 --> 00:39:55.776
group and a new counselor to the outcome

00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:57.856
of the current workshops and that coming

00:39:57.880 --> 00:39:59.896
council plan which we as counselors and

00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:02.095
the community have and will continue Pro

00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:05.055
provide input into so looking forward to

00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.055
the next four years after what's been

00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.696
achieved so far from the previous four

00:40:09.720 --> 00:40:12.216
years so looking forward to that being

00:40:12.240 --> 00:40:14.335
released in September and onwards from

00:40:14.359 --> 00:40:16.496
there thank you councelor Walker would

00:40:16.520 --> 00:40:18.136
any other councilors like to speak to

00:40:18.160 --> 00:40:21.160
this item councelor Barker thanks man

00:40:21.640 --> 00:40:23.616
council plan progress report where we

00:40:23.640 --> 00:40:26.640
get the Lovely midyear update on how

00:40:27.040 --> 00:40:28.936
well the organization is spending our

00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.856
money now while we have gender  gender

00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:34.256
Equity impact assessments there's no

00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.216
mention of economic impact

00:40:37.240 --> 00:40:40.240
assessments shouldn't we be evaluating

00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:43.280
the programs to justify the costs or do

00:40:43.640 --> 00:40:45.815
we just like them because they're

00:40:45.839 --> 00:40:48.575
valued let's talk about risk management

00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:50.295
the council itself rates governance and

00:40:50.319 --> 00:40:53.176
compliant  and compliance failures as

00:40:53.200 --> 00:40:55.496
serious and even after mitigation it

00:40:55.520 --> 00:40:58.055
Still Remains at medi

00:40:58.079 --> 00:40:59.616
now that doesn't Inspire confidence in

00:40:59.640 --> 00:41:01.776
me I don't know about

00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:04.800
you by focusing on on identities rather

00:41:05.040 --> 00:41:06.815
than pragmatic outcomes this

00:41:06.839 --> 00:41:09.575
organization isn't committed to core

00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:12.599
Services by doing much we struggle to do

00:41:12.640 --> 00:41:14.936
anything well I hope that the

00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:16.496
development of the next council plan

00:41:16.520 --> 00:41:19.496
shifts that focus of the organization to

00:41:19.520 --> 00:41:21.896
focus on those core functions so that

00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:23.575
broad Community satisfaction is

00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:24.856
drastically

00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:27.295
improved by focusing on the minim

00:41:27.319 --> 00:41:29.176
amount of services we provide we can

00:41:29.200 --> 00:41:31.256
deliver better quality services and

00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:33.736
reduce rates so that there will be more

00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:35.936
money available in the community to fund

00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:38.960
those services that are valued by some

00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:41.616
but are not valued by all in the

00:41:41.640 --> 00:41:43.376
municipality I don't support this

00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:44.536
recommendation because it's a rubber

00:41:44.560 --> 00:41:46.575
stamping exercises that lacks real

00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:48.696
accountability the council needs proper

00:41:48.720 --> 00:41:51.016
cost benefit analysis and genuine

00:41:51.040 --> 00:41:53.456
Community engagement before claiming any

00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:55.456
sort of real

00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:57.856
progress thank you Council Barker do any

00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.815
other councilors wish to speak to the

00:42:00.839 --> 00:42:03.839
item no thank you are there any closing

00:42:04.319 --> 00:42:06.456
remarks councelor Stapleton  look I'll

00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:08.456
just make  a couple of comments I

00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:10.976
think  it's important to acknowledge

00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:13.496
that  while Financial sustainability

00:42:13.520 --> 00:42:16.520
is certainly  important and necessary

00:42:17.200 --> 00:42:20.016
 for Council and we we do have a a

00:42:20.040 --> 00:42:22.095
10-year long-term financial plan that

00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:25.119
ensures that for our community 

00:42:25.680 --> 00:42:27.936
councils are not bus

00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.535
businesses and nor should they be

00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:33.559
measured I guess  a business may be

00:42:33.720 --> 00:42:35.535
maybe assessed on its return on

00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.559
investment for investors but council's

00:42:39.040 --> 00:42:40.776
role is to actually deliver services for

00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:43.136
the community so I think our success

00:42:43.160 --> 00:42:45.376
should be measured on the public value

00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:48.400
that we're able to to deliver as part of

00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:50.575
 the program and the council plan that

00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:53.376
we develop and there was just one more

00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:54.736
significant piece of work that's been

00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:56.376
completed that I failed to mention which

00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:58.736
is the state of play social

00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:00.656
infrastructure report that was delivered

00:43:00.680 --> 00:43:03.216
to council and this report identifies

00:43:03.240 --> 00:43:06.240
all the existing Community places spaces

00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:08.335
 and services across the Surf  Coast

00:43:08.359 --> 00:43:10.335
Shire with a view to understanding more

00:43:10.359 --> 00:43:11.776
about what we already have in the

00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:14.456
community and where there's  gaps that

00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:15.896
our community needs so it's a really

00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:17.696
important piece of work and it's the

00:43:17.720 --> 00:43:20.720
first step in developing  a broader 

00:43:20.839 --> 00:43:22.856
integrated social infrastructure

00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.656
framework to help Council to plan and

00:43:25.680 --> 00:43:27.976
invest and provide a appropriate social

00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:29.776
infrastructure for the community and

00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:32.016
I'll leave it at there thanks Mayor

00:43:32.040 --> 00:43:34.496
thanks councilor Stapleton we'll now put

00:43:34.520 --> 00:43:37.520
the motion to the vote all those in

00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:42.079
favor thank you councilors and against

00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:45.599
thank you so that vote is carried

00:43:49.680 --> 00:43:52.680
71 item 4.2 win will seash shy Hall

00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:56.440
management model the purpose of this

00:43:56.680 --> 00:43:59.095
report is for Council to consider

00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:01.815
updating the management model and costs

00:44:01.839 --> 00:44:04.839
for win will sea shy Hall we have a

00:44:05.520 --> 00:44:07.496
recommendation before us does anyone

00:44:07.520 --> 00:44:10.520
wish to move a motion I just jp in I

00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:13.256
just repeat my statement so I like to

00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:14.776
declare that I have an interest in item

00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:16.856
4.2 here the future management of win

00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:19.216
CSH Hall and for the benefit of anyone

00:44:19.240 --> 00:44:21.055
who missed it I'm a member of the

00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:22.616
nonprofit organization winch SE

00:44:22.640 --> 00:44:24.335
community house and until the end of

00:44:24.359 --> 00:44:26.496
last year was also volunteer chair of

00:44:26.520 --> 00:44:27.776
that committee

00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:29.496
I note that exemptions to the conflict

00:44:29.520 --> 00:44:30.896
of interest framework are available

00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:32.335
under the Local Government Act with

00:44:32.359 --> 00:44:34.416
regard to involvement in not for-profit

00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.440
organizations which Advocate the council

00:44:37.520 --> 00:44:38.856
and after thoroughly considering this

00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:40.376
matter and while I do not believe that I

00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:42.176
have a direct conflict  that will

00:44:42.200 --> 00:44:44.335
preclude me from this decision-making in

00:44:44.359 --> 00:44:45.815
the interest of public transparency and

00:44:45.839 --> 00:44:47.216
integrity and with an abundance of

00:44:47.240 --> 00:44:50.055
caution I will step out for this item or

00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:53.016
beit reluctantly and with disappointment

00:44:53.040 --> 00:44:55.535
so I thank you councilor Phelps we'll

00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:58.559
see you after this item

00:44:59.640 --> 00:45:02.640
concluded so we have a six-part

00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:04.976
recommendation before us does anyone

00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.216
wish to move a motion councelor Shan

00:45:07.240 --> 00:45:10.240
Felder as as read Mayor and I would like

00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:13.920
to say as councelor Phelps is exiting

00:45:14.200 --> 00:45:17.200
the  room that I feel as though I beg

00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:19.936
to differ I feel he doesn't really have

00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.535
a conflict of interest but that's noted

00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:24.856
thanks councel sha Felder so councel sha

00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:26.656
Felder has moved the motion as per the

00:45:26.680 --> 00:45:29.016
recommend ation do we have a

00:45:29.040 --> 00:45:31.496
second  thanks councelor

00:45:31.520 --> 00:45:34.216
Patterson  councelor Shan Felder I

00:45:34.240 --> 00:45:36.055
invite you to speak to the motion now

00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:38.856
thank you very much I'd like to say 

00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:40.295
that it's a great honor to be here in

00:45:40.319 --> 00:45:42.416
Lorne  such a beautiful part of the

00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:44.856
world and there are beautiful buildings

00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:47.535
here including  at the primary school

00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:50.496
I might add and but I'd have to say in

00:45:50.520 --> 00:45:53.520
all honestly the most beautiful building

00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:56.535
that the council owns in the sh in my

00:45:56.559 --> 00:45:59.559
opinion is the winell sea Hall and I say

00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:03.280
that very hbly and unbiasedly I might

00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:06.559
add and  I very much welcome this

00:46:06.680 --> 00:46:09.680
recommendation which seeks to enter an

00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.335
agreement with the win SE community

00:46:12.359 --> 00:46:15.359
house with the  Council and to

00:46:16.319 --> 00:46:19.136
activate  Works within the or

00:46:19.160 --> 00:46:21.335
operations to occur within the win SE

00:46:21.359 --> 00:46:24.359
shy Hall and to continue a commitment of

00:46:25.319 --> 00:46:28.136
35,000 in the next next  Financial

00:46:28.160 --> 00:46:30.696
year and 33,000 thereafter in the

00:46:30.720 --> 00:46:33.720
following Financial year and  the

00:46:34.680 --> 00:46:36.896
money will go towards paying for

00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.920
suppliers for utilities Communications

00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:43.280
and general cleaning and carpet cleaning

00:46:44.160 --> 00:46:46.456
attributed to the use of the win sea shy

00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:48.696
Hall I I have to say I've attended a

00:46:48.720 --> 00:46:51.176
number of events there and and really

00:46:51.200 --> 00:46:54.200
enjoy the different events including a

00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:57.016
photographic competition that took place

00:46:57.040 --> 00:47:00.016
and I had to announce the winner of it

00:47:00.040 --> 00:47:03.040
and  that was a lot of fun and it's a

00:47:03.720 --> 00:47:06.335
real Hub of the community it's a real

00:47:06.359 --> 00:47:08.616
great meeting place due to the

00:47:08.640 --> 00:47:11.640
location of  of the

00:47:12.200 --> 00:47:15.200
hall the key 

00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:18.295
considerations are

00:47:18.319 --> 00:47:20.616
really the factors considering the

00:47:20.640 --> 00:47:23.496
community sentiment and the fact that

00:47:23.520 --> 00:47:25.656
the community have a very high regard

00:47:25.680 --> 00:47:28.680
and interest in the ownership of the the

00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.920
site and  also the fact of consistency

00:47:33.319 --> 00:47:36.136
and equity for Access

00:47:36.160 --> 00:47:39.160
across  the council for people to 

00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:43.480
liaz there and  achievements of goals

00:47:44.720 --> 00:47:47.376
are also being considered as well and we

00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:49.176
have to realize that we've moved out of

00:47:49.200 --> 00:47:52.055
Co we've had Co restrictions and that

00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:55.079
impacted the operation of the hall so 

00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:59.216
now we also consider the commercial

00:47:59.240 --> 00:48:01.936
viability of the hall as well and the

00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:04.095
win SE Community House have reported it

00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.656
is unlikely that the usage income will

00:48:06.680 --> 00:48:08.736
be sufficient to cover the cost of the

00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:11.760
hall being staffed and open regularly

00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:14.616
which is an aspiration of the community

00:48:14.640 --> 00:48:16.416
there's also child and family health

00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:19.440
services available and I know former

00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:22.535
counselor Gary Allen had a very  Keen

00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:25.559
interest in education and in early

00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:27.815
learning and and child care as well and

00:48:27.839 --> 00:48:29.616
I know my mother was a primary school

00:48:29.640 --> 00:48:32.640
teacher and a music and art teacher and

00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:35.760
and the value of education is is so

00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:40.119
important and the collocation of child

00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:42.456
and family health services within the

00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:44.815
wintery Community House has mutual

00:48:44.839 --> 00:48:46.896
benefits and positive outcomes for

00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:49.055
families connecting with multiple

00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:50.616
programs and

00:48:50.640 --> 00:48:53.416
services so  there's also financial

00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:56.016
implications as well costs for various

00:48:56.040 --> 00:48:58.496
models have an estimated are included in

00:48:58.520 --> 00:49:01.520
this report I have to say that the

00:49:01.640 --> 00:49:03.575
council the work that has been done at

00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:06.599
the hall has been absolutely fantastic

00:49:07.160 --> 00:49:09.616
and the community are so happy and I

00:49:09.640 --> 00:49:11.736
know having a building that's so

00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:14.760
historic having it purposeful and having

00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:18.480
it renovated in a way that complements

00:49:18.680 --> 00:49:21.295
the the Heritage elements of the

00:49:21.319 --> 00:49:24.319
building I I must say  I'm just so so

00:49:25.200 --> 00:49:27.936
pleased about that and I know there's a

00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:29.896
bit of background to this building there

00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:32.575
was a business operator there who who

00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:33.416
had a

00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:36.440
non-commercial  rated agreement with

00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:39.815
the council and this agreement ceased

00:49:39.839 --> 00:49:41.775
and Council conducted an expression of

00:49:41.799 --> 00:49:44.575
Interest processed and interviewed a new

00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:46.376
or identified I should say a new

00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:47.416
business

00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:49.696
operator however the start of Co

00:49:49.720 --> 00:49:52.496
pandemic and early 2020 prevented this

00:49:52.520 --> 00:49:55.520
operator from  commencing so I have

00:49:55.839 --> 00:49:58.839
mentioned Co previously Mayor so  I

00:49:59.319 --> 00:50:01.256
recommend my colleagues to support this

00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:04.280
item thank you thanks councelor Shan

00:50:04.359 --> 00:50:05.815
Felder councelor Patterson would you

00:50:05.839 --> 00:50:08.176
like to speak to the motion yes thank

00:50:08.200 --> 00:50:10.535
you that would be great  this motion

00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:12.376
will support the winter SE Community

00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:14.295
House to manage the winter sea shy hall

00:50:14.319 --> 00:50:16.016
for the next two years and we'll

00:50:16.040 --> 00:50:18.256
commence a new arrangement with Council

00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:21.280
to use the rooms at the win win winell

00:50:21.680 --> 00:50:23.696
seashire Hall to deliver the child and

00:50:23.720 --> 00:50:25.736
family services for the next 3 years for

00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:27.496
a fee to the community house so they

00:50:27.520 --> 00:50:29.295
already deliver that but looking at

00:50:29.319 --> 00:50:30.936
other ways to make it more sustainable

00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:33.176
for the winch or seash shy hall or the

00:50:33.200 --> 00:50:35.496
community house and so Council really

00:50:35.520 --> 00:50:37.896
focuses on a Community Development lens

00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:39.736
in the way that it works with our

00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:42.016
community and this is an example of that

00:50:42.040 --> 00:50:43.696
supporting The Community House to be

00:50:43.720 --> 00:50:46.616
self- sustaining but doing it in a way

00:50:46.640 --> 00:50:49.335
 that is stepwise with reduced 

00:50:49.359 --> 00:50:51.176
dollars going to The Community House so

00:50:51.200 --> 00:50:52.815
that over time they can be self-

00:50:52.839 --> 00:50:54.775
sustaining we know that over the last

00:50:54.799 --> 00:50:56.416
couple of years as councelor shanfeld

00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:58.335
mentioned mentioned  there was Co

00:50:58.359 --> 00:50:59.896
disruptions as well as issues with

00:50:59.920 --> 00:51:02.295
Heating and Cooling and so the win sea

00:51:02.319 --> 00:51:03.696
Community House hasn't really had an

00:51:03.720 --> 00:51:06.295
opportunity to demonstrate how they can

00:51:06.319 --> 00:51:09.256
 get adequate bookings to to make the

00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:11.055
make their initiative  self-

00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:13.016
sustaining and so I think it's important

00:51:13.040 --> 00:51:15.176
that we support them to do that but have

00:51:15.200 --> 00:51:17.216
a limit to that so that we can bring it

00:51:17.240 --> 00:51:19.616
in line with the way that our other

00:51:19.640 --> 00:51:22.616
facilities are managed  and now and

00:51:22.640 --> 00:51:24.736
that sort of thing so yes I think it's a

00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:27.295
it's a good middle ground  and I

00:51:27.319 --> 00:51:28.696
really encourage the winter seek

00:51:28.720 --> 00:51:30.775
Community to get on board and to support

00:51:30.799 --> 00:51:32.976
their Community House Community houses

00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:36.000
are amazing  and this is two years 

00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:39.016
with reducing money coming from Council

00:51:39.040 --> 00:51:40.616
and so I really yeah encourage the

00:51:40.640 --> 00:51:43.016
winter Community to get on board behind

00:51:43.040 --> 00:51:44.775
this wonderful initiative so that it can

00:51:44.799 --> 00:51:47.736
continue  after this two years 

00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:50.760
reduced fees  happens so I encourage

00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:52.896
 my councilors to support the motion

00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.616
thank you thanks councelor Patterson

00:51:55.640 --> 00:51:57.535
would any other Council like to speak to

00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:00.559
this motion councilor Barker thanks now

00:52:00.839 --> 00:52:02.616
another classic example of council

00:52:02.640 --> 00:52:04.335
overreach creating a mess that it then

00:52:04.359 --> 00:52:07.136
needs to clean up we have three options

00:52:07.160 --> 00:52:08.736
continue throwing 50 Grand or more a

00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:10.936
year at the problem gradually phase out

00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:13.095
the funding or have Council take back

00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:14.456
the

00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:16.416
management but I'd like to ask why

00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:18.535
Council involved at all if the Community

00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:20.616
Values the hall then let them fund it

00:52:20.640 --> 00:52:22.856
directly now I can appreciate that we

00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.880
might not sell it  but at least let

00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:27.775
them

00:52:27.799 --> 00:52:29.416
make it function

00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:31.055
independently with the appropriate

00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:32.535
incentives of communi seeking the

00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:34.656
necessary funding to run the hall you'll

00:52:34.680 --> 00:52:36.376
see a greater diversity of events and

00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:38.535
activities held there which will drive

00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:39.856
more

00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:42.055
patronage and probably create Better

00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:44.095
Community

00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:46.136
Connection now the government should be

00:52:46.160 --> 00:52:47.936
shouldn't be involved in the business of

00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:50.136
subsidizing community spaces when

00:52:50.160 --> 00:52:52.055
there's plenty of private and voluntary

00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:55.079
models out and available I won't support

00:52:55.640 --> 00:52:57.016
the recommendation because it continues

00:52:57.040 --> 00:52:58.376
Council involvement where it isn't

00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.775
needed I think the best approach is

00:53:00.799 --> 00:53:02.616
either full privatization or Community

00:53:02.640 --> 00:53:05.176
Le funding without Council interference

00:53:05.200 --> 00:53:06.815
and this recommendation achieves neither

00:53:06.839 --> 00:53:09.736
of those thank you councelor Baka do any

00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:11.936
other councilors wish to speak councelor

00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:13.535
Stapleton I'll just say a few words

00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:15.456
thank you Mayor  I'm happy to support

00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:17.616
this recommendation I think that the

00:53:17.640 --> 00:53:19.416
funding model that's been proposed

00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:21.256
should see the win SE Community House

00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:24.176
continue to receive  a similar amount

00:53:24.200 --> 00:53:26.775
to what's been received over the past

00:53:26.799 --> 00:53:28.136
three years of the agreement with

00:53:28.160 --> 00:53:30.016
Council albe it the funding is

00:53:30.040 --> 00:53:32.416
structured a little differently  it

00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:34.535
provides a good balance between enabling

00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:36.016
the winter SE Community House to

00:53:36.040 --> 00:53:38.055
continue to build on the great program

00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:39.696
that it's offering to the local

00:53:39.720 --> 00:53:42.176
community Through the shy Hall whilst

00:53:42.200 --> 00:53:44.416
also providing enough time for the house

00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:46.055
and the broader Community to transition

00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:49.079
to a new model  ideally over the two

00:53:49.680 --> 00:53:51.496
years of this proposed agreement there

00:53:51.520 --> 00:53:53.535
will be an increase in income from users

00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:55.976
of the shy Hall so that it can become a

00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.335
service primarily sustained by the

00:53:58.359 --> 00:54:00.335
community and I think that it's

00:54:00.359 --> 00:54:02.696
important to acknowledge that the the

00:54:02.720 --> 00:54:04.496
wines Community House has worked really

00:54:04.520 --> 00:54:07.456
hard to activate the shy Hall through

00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:09.856
the past three years of this agreement

00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:11.775
 there there have been challenges and

00:54:11.799 --> 00:54:13.616
there is an aspiration to have the Hall

00:54:13.640 --> 00:54:16.640
open regularly  regular hours for the

00:54:16.680 --> 00:54:19.176
community members to drop in that may

00:54:19.200 --> 00:54:21.095
not be achievable but hopefully the

00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:23.616
community can come up with some creative

00:54:23.640 --> 00:54:26.616
ways  that supports them to a achieve

00:54:26.640 --> 00:54:29.335
this aspiration for me  there's no

00:54:29.359 --> 00:54:31.256
argent about the value of the winch SE

00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:33.216
community house and what it's delivering

00:54:33.240 --> 00:54:34.815
for the community Through the management

00:54:34.839 --> 00:54:36.736
of the shy Hall and I think we should

00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:38.976
continue  to support them for a short

00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:41.856
time to ensure that that value can be

00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:44.696
realized over the past few years 

00:54:44.720 --> 00:54:45.856
there've been there's been the

00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:48.216
introduction of new programs events a

00:54:48.240 --> 00:54:51.240
monthly Market artist exhibitions and

00:54:51.359 --> 00:54:54.016
and more to help activate the space and

00:54:54.040 --> 00:54:55.896
the hall has also been open to the

00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:57.736
public  throughout the week during

00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:00.760
this time you know in in an Ideal World

00:55:00.799 --> 00:55:03.456
Council would have ample funds to keep

00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:05.376
every Community facility open all day

00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:07.016
every day but we know that's not

00:55:07.040 --> 00:55:09.256
possible and that it is about providing

00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:11.256
a balance and the council will need to

00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:14.280
make some hard decisions in coming years

00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:17.095
 but I think it's important that we

00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:19.856
have a a consistent approach  and

00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:22.015
Equity across Community houses within

00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:25.039
the sh and although this particular 

00:55:25.640 --> 00:55:28.640
model  is unique to winchy I do think

00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:30.575
that what's been proposed sets them up

00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:32.736
for Success into the future and that's

00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:34.256
really the most important outcome for

00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:36.575
the win SE community so I hope that this

00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:39.216
recommendation is accepted  so that

00:55:39.240 --> 00:55:40.656
there's Clarity for the winch SE

00:55:40.680 --> 00:55:42.055
Community House and the broader

00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:44.416
Community about how the shy Hall will be

00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:46.095
managed over the coming years and to

00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:49.119
help initiate a process  that helps

00:55:49.359 --> 00:55:51.616
them to transition to a new model in two

00:55:51.640 --> 00:55:53.896
years time thank you Mayor thanks

00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:55.736
councilor steton do any other councilors

00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:57.256
wish to speak to this

00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:00.280
item no thank you all for  the move of

00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.496
closing comments no okay we'll now put

00:56:02.520 --> 00:56:05.520
the motion to the vote all those in

00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:09.599
favor and against thanks counselor so

00:56:10.240 --> 00:56:13.240
that motion is carried

00:56:15.720 --> 00:56:18.720
61 and so I'll invite  somebody to

00:56:22.200 --> 00:56:23.896
invite councelor Phelps back into the

00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:26.920
meeting

00:56:55.359 --> 00:56:57.295
nice to have you back k Council

00:56:57.319 --> 00:57:00.319
Phelps so item 4.4 multiart Center

00:57:04.240 --> 00:57:07.240
lease oh sorry I have missed on thank

00:57:08.640 --> 00:57:11.640
you 4.3 commedy bus review the purpose

00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:14.295
of this report is for Council to

00:57:14.319 --> 00:57:15.936
consider transitioning to a new

00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:18.960
subsidized model of access to bus hire

00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:21.575
and the exit of this subsidized model

00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:24.416
after a 2-year transition period we have

00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:26.616
a recommendation before us does anyone

00:57:26.640 --> 00:57:29.640
wish to move a motion councilor Walker

00:57:29.720 --> 00:57:32.656
is that as per the recommendation  yes

00:57:32.680 --> 00:57:35.015
Mayor but with some additional points 

00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:36.896
which I'll put up on the screen here and

00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.920
read through  to help clarify  some

00:57:40.799 --> 00:57:42.656
of the points that I'm I'm putting

00:57:42.680 --> 00:57:44.256
forward

00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:47.280
 now I'm putting forward that the 

00:57:47.359 --> 00:57:48.856
that is put through with the

00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:50.815
recommendation but with some additional

00:57:50.839 --> 00:57:53.815
points relating to  the community

00:57:53.839 --> 00:57:55.696
buses that are are down further down the

00:57:55.720 --> 00:57:56.696
coast

00:57:56.720 --> 00:57:59.720
 away from  the hubs of t as such so

00:58:02.160 --> 00:58:04.256
 you can read what's up there but it's

00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:07.216
also in the in the point but it's  the

00:58:07.240 --> 00:58:09.055
main point that we've got on there is

00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:11.656
not changing what's being proposed

00:58:11.680 --> 00:58:14.616
besides  disposing of the current bus

00:58:14.640 --> 00:58:16.736
fleet via sale or gifting in line with

00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:19.760
council's management policy  point8

00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:22.416
I've got facilitates an expression of

00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:24.736
Interest process to gift one bus to a

00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:26.376
community group in Lorne for the purpose

00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:28.856
of community use by Lo local groups in

00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:30.775
the recognition of the geographical

00:58:30.799 --> 00:58:33.136
location and limited access to

00:58:33.160 --> 00:58:35.656
commercial bus hirers  down this way

00:58:35.680 --> 00:58:38.335
of the coast  I can speak to that

00:58:38.359 --> 00:58:41.359
further  and then point 10 on there

00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:43.815
it's got allocate up to 78,000 from the

00:58:43.839 --> 00:58:46.839
sale of the remainder of the fleet  to

00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:48.896
Dedicated cost centers to subsidized bus

00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:51.295
high for Community users for the 2-year

00:58:51.319 --> 00:58:53.936
period okay thanks Council Walker and

00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:55.216
thanks to the governance team for

00:58:55.240 --> 00:58:57.376
displaying that 

00:58:57.400 --> 00:58:59.936
motion  so I'm calling for a second

00:58:59.960 --> 00:59:02.960
for that

00:59:05.839 --> 00:59:08.839
motion I don't see a second for that

00:59:09.319 --> 00:59:12.095
motion so that motion will

00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:15.119
lapse and so we now I now call for a new

00:59:15.839 --> 00:59:18.839
motion  no  I did have an

00:59:19.319 --> 00:59:21.136
alternative motion so I don't know if

00:59:21.160 --> 00:59:24.160
you want to hear that motion  I'm

00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:26.456
calling for a motion to be moved at the

00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:28.736
moment thanks councilor Shan Felder well

00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:31.696
Mayor I'd like to move that the council

00:59:31.720 --> 00:59:34.176
updates and replaces the current buses

00:59:34.200 --> 00:59:36.976
with new

00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:39.055
vehicles okay I'll ask the governance

00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:41.295
team if we have that motion in writing

00:59:41.319 --> 00:59:43.216
so that we can display that for

00:59:43.240 --> 00:59:46.240
councilor's

00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:55.535
reference so can I just confirm for

00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:58.295
Council is  understanding that's the

00:59:58.319 --> 01:00:00.535
entire

01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:03.176
motion councilor Shan Felder is that the

01:00:03.200 --> 01:00:06.015
entire motion yes thank you okay I'll

01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:08.456
Now call for a second for that motion do

01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:11.095
we have a

01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:14.119
second no okay so that motion lapses so

01:00:14.240 --> 01:00:17.240
I now call for a motion councelor

01:00:18.720 --> 01:00:21.256
Patterson is it as per the

01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:23.136
recommendation it is as per the

01:00:23.160 --> 01:00:24.976
recommendation okay thanks Council

01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:26.416
Patterson so I call for for a second

01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:27.896
before that

01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:30.920
motion  councelor Phelps thank you so

01:00:31.640 --> 01:00:33.216
councelor Patterson I'll invite you to

01:00:33.240 --> 01:00:35.696
speak to the motion

01:00:35.720 --> 01:00:38.720
thanks thank you  lots and lots and

01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:41.696
lots of work has gone in over the last

01:00:41.720 --> 01:00:43.775
couple of years looking at Community

01:00:43.799 --> 01:00:46.799
buses and they are valued by some in the

01:00:47.680 --> 01:00:49.856
community and the idea of them is

01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:52.055
amazing and when I first heard about

01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:54.176
this I was very supportive of our

01:00:54.200 --> 01:00:56.815
community buses but over the period

01:00:56.839 --> 01:00:58.575
where Council has evaluated its

01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:00.936
Community buses and looked at the risks

01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:03.015
the liabilities especially in light of

01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:05.535
the crashes that happened the very very

01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:08.015
unfortunate situation some years ago in

01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:11.039
in the hunter Valley  it's become

01:01:11.240 --> 01:01:14.240
clear that it's an area that Council 

01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:17.055
should exit or could exit it's not a

01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:19.456
mandatory service for Council there's no

01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:21.856
obligation for Council to provide buses

01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:23.616
and as we can see in the report that's

01:01:23.640 --> 01:01:26.295
put forward a lot of money is spent on

01:01:26.319 --> 01:01:28.136
these Community buses they're ending

01:01:28.160 --> 01:01:30.295
their  operational life and would

01:01:30.319 --> 01:01:32.456
require a significant investment of

01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:35.480
413,000 roughly to replace those buses

01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:38.335
those four buses and we need to consider

01:01:38.359 --> 01:01:41.359
that there were only 121 troops in

01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:45.039
2024 and over the prior years the number

01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:47.376
of trips that were being utilized those

01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:49.376
that those buses were being utilized for

01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:52.055
was continuing to decrease and so and

01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:54.416
that was in the context of our Council

01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:57.015
actively encouraging participation and

01:01:57.039 --> 01:01:58.775
doing everything they could to promote

01:01:58.799 --> 01:02:01.335
the service that it provided so I think

01:02:01.359 --> 01:02:03.255
that's a really important in a sense our

01:02:03.279 --> 01:02:05.856
community has said to us  we are we

01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:07.896
don't value them to the to the extent

01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:10.095
that you know that they're there  and

01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:13.055
I think this what's being put forward 

01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:16.079
recognizes that it however we do know

01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:18.656
that we can't just take something away

01:02:18.680 --> 01:02:20.976
without it's helping our community to

01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:23.815
adapt and and and work through that over

01:02:23.839 --> 01:02:26.839
a period of time so what's put forward

01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:29.295
 enables the community to retain

01:02:29.319 --> 01:02:30.856
access to the bus hire through a

01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:33.880
subsidized model with  but but through

01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:35.656
a model that actually manages the risk

01:02:35.680 --> 01:02:37.136
and cost to council by using a

01:02:37.160 --> 01:02:38.976
commercial operator to do that and

01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:42.000
Council subsidizing those eligible trips

01:02:42.039 --> 01:02:43.696
so as I mentioned there's been extensive

01:02:43.720 --> 01:02:45.335
work over the past two years to get the

01:02:45.359 --> 01:02:47.535
community engaged but you know but they

01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:50.559
just isn't that engagement and so really

01:02:50.680 --> 01:02:53.680
we need to  use this money  more Wis

01:02:56.039 --> 01:02:59.039
ly  the proposed Arrangement  will

01:02:59.279 --> 01:03:00.696
assist Community groups over the next

01:03:00.720 --> 01:03:02.496
couple of years and allow time to

01:03:02.520 --> 01:03:04.616
develop alternative ways to get around

01:03:04.640 --> 01:03:07.640
without using the council buses  and

01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:09.456
as we mentioned earlier the four buses

01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:12.480
were only used 121 times in 2024 and

01:03:13.680 --> 01:03:16.176
this  demonstrates The Limited groups

01:03:16.200 --> 01:03:18.376
and visits utilizing these buses each

01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:21.400
year  and yet council is allocating a

01:03:21.680 --> 01:03:23.255
significant amount of money to provide

01:03:23.279 --> 01:03:25.176
this service so there are so many

01:03:25.200 --> 01:03:27.176
services that council is mandated to

01:03:27.200 --> 01:03:29.255
provide to the community and with this

01:03:29.279 --> 01:03:30.815
with our reduced budget we really need

01:03:30.839 --> 01:03:33.839
to re-evaluate these discretionary uses

01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:36.815
of our budget  and this is one area

01:03:36.839 --> 01:03:38.976
that Council can cease to deliver this

01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:41.575
service with some but minimal impact and

01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:43.295
that impact can be addressed through

01:03:43.319 --> 01:03:45.376
this 2-year  subsidy

01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:47.295
Arrangement and as leaders in the

01:03:47.319 --> 01:03:48.856
community we need to make the tough

01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:50.856
decisions that enable good financial

01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:53.136
management and best use of council's

01:03:53.160 --> 01:03:56.160
resources for the whole Shire so hiring

01:03:56.640 --> 01:03:58.496
of community buses is not a mandated

01:03:58.520 --> 01:04:01.176
service  and there are some clear

01:04:01.200 --> 01:04:03.176
benefits for Council from exiting this

01:04:03.200 --> 01:04:05.376
service so it's not just about the money

01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:07.416
it also it reduces the council's cost

01:04:07.440 --> 01:04:10.176
paas but also it reduces the liability

01:04:10.200 --> 01:04:11.815
and the and the potential to increase

01:04:11.839 --> 01:04:14.496
the overall premi of council's 

01:04:14.520 --> 01:04:17.456
Fleet and it ensures buses that the

01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:18.656
community are renting through a

01:04:18.680 --> 01:04:20.535
commercial provider meet current safety

01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:22.656
requirements because the current buses

01:04:22.680 --> 01:04:24.456
 they vary in age but they're in the

01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:27.255
vicinity of 12 Years or more some less

01:04:27.279 --> 01:04:30.015
some more  and so there will shortly

01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:31.896
be required further safety updates to

01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:34.496
make them compliant and safe so the

01:04:34.520 --> 01:04:36.736
subsidies  for the relevant Community

01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:39.015
groups  over the next two years will

01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:41.136
mean that users can look at other ways

01:04:41.160 --> 01:04:43.335
to get around over that 2-year period

01:04:43.359 --> 01:04:45.176
but still have those subsidies for 2

01:04:45.200 --> 01:04:47.896
years  as they transition to other

01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:50.896
ways so ultimately Council cannot afford

01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:52.616
to renew the buses at a capital cost of

01:04:52.640 --> 01:04:55.640
413,000 when there is such slow of 121

01:04:56.720 --> 01:04:59.720
trips in 2024 and with a steady decline

01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:02.760
in usage over the last few years so I 

01:05:03.160 --> 01:05:04.976
encourage my fellow councilors to show

01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:07.376
leadership and be prudent in the way

01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:09.575
that Council spends  its limited

01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:12.496
budget thank you thanks councilor

01:05:12.520 --> 01:05:14.015
Patterson councilor Phelps would you

01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:15.616
like to speak to the motion yes thank

01:05:15.640 --> 01:05:17.936
you Mayor  this is an item directly

01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:20.136
related to the four-year plan  theme

01:05:20.160 --> 01:05:22.656
of healthy connected communities public

01:05:22.680 --> 01:05:24.815
transport around Surf  coire is truly

01:05:24.839 --> 01:05:27.616
wful I note that the public transport 

01:05:27.640 --> 01:05:29.255
that public transport is a major issue

01:05:29.279 --> 01:05:30.736
for our whole region and is a key

01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:33.760
advocacy for the g21 group of councils I

01:05:34.200 --> 01:05:36.015
do really hope we get some favorable

01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:37.575
positive movement at state and federal

01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:38.856
level where public transport is

01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:41.176
concerned it would make  a big

01:05:41.200 --> 01:05:43.295
difference providing transport options

01:05:43.319 --> 01:05:44.976
for those in the community that are

01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:47.015
otherwise disadvantaged is something

01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:48.416
Council needs to consider in the near

01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:51.176
future something different and something

01:05:51.200 --> 01:05:54.200
Innovative is required enabling all of

01:05:54.279 --> 01:05:55.856
our community to move around is is more

01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:57.616
important than ever as our population

01:05:57.640 --> 01:06:00.640
ages as social social isolation bites as

01:06:01.359 --> 01:06:03.095
mental health rightly becomes part and

01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:06.095
parcel of a good place to live so I am

01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:07.376
very disappointed that the current

01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:09.055
legislative and legal environment has

01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:11.015
made Surf  Coast show Community buses

01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:13.856
untenable and too expensive but adding

01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:16.095
in the current economic situation this

01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:17.936
recommended phasing out is a sensible

01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:20.616
option while we look for something else

01:06:20.640 --> 01:06:22.255
so on that basis I will reluctantly

01:06:22.279 --> 01:06:23.696
support the motion in the hope and

01:06:23.720 --> 01:06:25.815
expectation that an Innovative new

01:06:25.839 --> 01:06:28.136
longer term solution can be determined

01:06:28.160 --> 01:06:30.736
in the near future thank you thanks

01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:32.216
councelor Phillips do any other

01:06:32.240 --> 01:06:34.015
councilors wish to speak to this item

01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:36.055
councelor Barker thanks man  you

01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:37.255
almost had me I was nearly going to

01:06:37.279 --> 01:06:40.279
support this getting out of the buses

01:06:40.359 --> 01:06:42.216
but the report admits that while bus

01:06:42.240 --> 01:06:44.736
usage has declined the fleet is outdated

01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:46.575
and compliance the cost of rising that's

01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:49.416
all known by everyone but the proposed

01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:52.136
solution a transition to a subsidized

01:06:52.160 --> 01:06:55.095
model before scrapping it all together

01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:57.095
if given the opportunity private

01:06:57.119 --> 01:06:59.416
companies can provide transport more

01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:01.456
efficiently I don't support Council

01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:03.535
being involved in this space at all but

01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:06.055
more importantly why isn't Council

01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:07.896
advocating to government to scrap the

01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:10.616
regulatory hurdles that are creating the

01:07:10.640 --> 01:07:13.640
unaffordable compliance costs why we

01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:15.696
were too busy advocating for duck

01:07:15.720 --> 01:07:16.976
hunting

01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:19.176
banss something that has been proven

01:07:19.200 --> 01:07:20.936
useless as it had no impact on the

01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:22.896
matter if we are going to Advocate to

01:07:22.920 --> 01:07:24.736
the government on other matters needs to

01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:26.456
be on something

01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:28.136
tangible now I support the

01:07:28.160 --> 01:07:29.696
recommendation to phase out Council on

01:07:29.720 --> 01:07:31.936
bus service Happy Days  but I don't

01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:34.136
support the associated subsidies the

01:07:34.160 --> 01:07:36.656
trans the transition period is

01:07:36.680 --> 01:07:38.616
unnecessary just let the market take

01:07:38.640 --> 01:07:41.416
over now and stop wasting rate payers

01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:43.616
money a combination of council

01:07:43.640 --> 01:07:45.015
involvement which eliminates

01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:46.696
philanthropic contributions to this

01:07:46.720 --> 01:07:49.575
space and overregulation has resulted in

01:07:49.599 --> 01:07:52.496
us being where we are now narrow-minded

01:07:52.520 --> 01:07:54.295
thinking won't deliver any Sound

01:07:54.319 --> 01:07:57.216
Solutions and won't support this

01:07:57.240 --> 01:07:59.656
motion thanks councelor Barker do any

01:07:59.680 --> 01:08:01.815
other councilors wish to speak to this

01:08:01.839 --> 01:08:04.295
item councelor Shan Felder thank you

01:08:04.319 --> 01:08:07.319
Mayor I  have to say I'm I'm very

01:08:07.400 --> 01:08:10.295
disappointed that the current Fleet is

01:08:10.319 --> 01:08:13.319
whether it's on average 12 years old I I

01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:15.616
would actually argue that if it was a

01:08:15.640 --> 01:08:17.456
modern Fleet or more modern Fleet it

01:08:17.480 --> 01:08:20.480
would inct attract people and entice

01:08:20.799 --> 01:08:23.695
residents to use the buses it has been

01:08:23.719 --> 01:08:25.936
put to me by a former president of a

01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:28.960
Probus Association that he said if the

01:08:29.040 --> 01:08:31.096
bus was more comfortable and more modern

01:08:31.120 --> 01:08:33.896
more people would want to use this and I

01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:36.616
know that there's a statistic about the

01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:39.640
usage being reduced but possibly if

01:08:40.480 --> 01:08:42.215
there were fewer trips made you could

01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:44.056
have more people in the buses if they're

01:08:44.080 --> 01:08:47.080
running at capacity I do agree largely

01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:51.359
with what councelor Barker has said 

01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:54.960
with his  opposition to this item we

01:08:55.799 --> 01:08:57.775
are an organization whether we're a

01:08:57.799 --> 01:09:00.496
business we're obviously a council

01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:02.735
however you describe us over a $100

01:09:02.759 --> 01:09:05.759
million budget we have and I know being

01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:09.255
here in Lorne the Lorne residents

01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:11.056
contribute a lot towards the rate

01:09:11.080 --> 01:09:14.016
revenue and people do ask themselves

01:09:14.040 --> 01:09:16.215
what do I get for paying my rates I know

01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:19.239
where I live I  have rubbish collector

01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:21.295
that I have a road outside where I live

01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:24.319
at barable and people here I actually

01:09:25.120 --> 01:09:26.896
think it's great for mental health

01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:29.655
purposes I might add to have buses

01:09:29.679 --> 01:09:32.616
available for the council for Community

01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:34.536
groups because the private operators

01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:36.496
might be booked out as well that's

01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:39.295
another factor and another issue that

01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:41.456
was brought to my attention which I was

01:09:41.480 --> 01:09:44.480
unaware of the CFA who fight fires if

01:09:46.120 --> 01:09:48.576
they're monitoring a fire or working

01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:51.456
overnight they use buses to transport

01:09:51.480 --> 01:09:53.856
the firefighters they don't necessarily

01:09:53.880 --> 01:09:56.416
use the trucks and I remember being

01:09:56.440 --> 01:09:58.936
quite young in grade three when Ash

01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:01.616
Wednesday took place and I hope we never

01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:04.456
have to endure another Calamity like

01:10:04.480 --> 01:10:06.376
that but I actually think if we have a

01:10:06.400 --> 01:10:07.536
fleet of

01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:10.560
buses and we could possibly renew a bus

01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:12.616
each year for the next four years

01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:15.640
instead of spending the 400,000 up front

01:10:16.040 --> 01:10:18.496
I think to have that Fleet available

01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:20.816
would be worthwhile if we do have a a

01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:23.016
Calamity we talk about the climate

01:10:23.040 --> 01:10:26.040
crisis we're a car dependent Society

01:10:26.719 --> 01:10:28.816
why can't we encourage people to use

01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:31.736
buses I ask my colleagues to please

01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:34.215
reconsider their positions including the

01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:37.239
Mover and seconder of this motion I know

01:10:37.360 --> 01:10:40.360
Scout groups use it at modari and win

01:10:40.440 --> 01:10:43.256
sea and I just feel I know we're in a

01:10:43.280 --> 01:10:45.616
tight fiscal environment but I just

01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:47.695
would like my colleagues to please

01:10:47.719 --> 01:10:50.416
reconsider thank you Mayor thank you

01:10:50.440 --> 01:10:52.215
councilor Shan Felder would anyone else

01:10:52.239 --> 01:10:54.416
like to speak to this motion councilor

01:10:54.440 --> 01:10:57.336
Walker thank you

01:10:57.360 --> 01:11:00.360
Mayor  just give some context around

01:11:00.719 --> 01:11:02.376
where we are now we're in beautiful Lorne

01:11:02.400 --> 01:11:05.376
down here  public transport doesn't

01:11:05.400 --> 01:11:07.456
really exist your first Bus Gets in here

01:11:07.480 --> 01:11:10.416
at 1:00 in the afternoon now for

01:11:10.440 --> 01:11:12.695
Community groups to want to use a bus

01:11:12.719 --> 01:11:15.719
there is no other option  one size

01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:18.655
doesn't fit all  yes the Lorne bus was

01:11:18.679 --> 01:11:21.016
used around 40 times last year it we'll

01:11:21.040 --> 01:11:22.936
probably used more if it could be used

01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:24.976
more but basically you've got to look at

01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:28.000
what was used for it's for for groups

01:11:28.360 --> 01:11:31.016
you know to be able to use it the basis

01:11:31.040 --> 01:11:32.576
for the lack of self-drive rental

01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:34.175
opportunities from particular Lorne and

01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:36.016
surrounds there is no other option

01:11:36.040 --> 01:11:37.376
you've got to get on the bus to go to

01:11:37.400 --> 01:11:39.896
jalong to get a bus as in to hire a bus

01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:42.416
that is or hire a car that is even with

01:11:42.440 --> 01:11:44.016
the subsidy the regional community of

01:11:44.040 --> 01:11:45.096
Law and surrounds will be at

01:11:45.120 --> 01:11:46.776
disadvantage when compared to other Surf 

01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:48.175
coost Downs due to the closest

01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:50.496
self-drive rental being in jalon the

01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:51.896
communities further down the coast are

01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:53.976
more disadvantaged as there's inadequate

01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:55.416
public transport this is this is an

01:11:55.440 --> 01:11:56.856
issue we all know about but we really

01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:59.135
need to really push this there's no

01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:01.896
rental companies here thus the cost and

01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:03.695
the time will be higher due to traveling

01:12:03.719 --> 01:12:06.719
further to hire a bus or paying higher

01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:08.576
prices for a private company with a

01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:11.376
driver there's a current cap in the in

01:12:11.400 --> 01:12:12.576
the policy of

01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:15.096
$1,500 per group per

01:12:15.120 --> 01:12:17.215
year this won't go far when you've got

01:12:17.239 --> 01:12:19.776
to employe a driver to drive from kak or

01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:22.800
bagara or or t to come down here it's

01:12:24.679 --> 01:12:25.976
important that the Regional Community

01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:27.816
groups remain connected but it's also a

01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:29.776
low lowcost option

01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:32.336
available so further to this in the

01:12:32.360 --> 01:12:35.296
option in the  management policy as

01:12:35.320 --> 01:12:38.215
per 3.4 for appropriate disposal methods

01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:41.239
of assets so F it's like to see that we

01:12:41.400 --> 01:12:43.896
offers first go to community groups as

01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:46.215
first priority to purchase these buses

01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:49.239
if there's no other option

01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:52.560
 we really need to work towards

01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:55.615
getting better Community facilities and

01:12:55.639 --> 01:12:58.215
and transport options down here  as

01:12:58.239 --> 01:13:01.239
you go further down the coast  we

01:13:01.520 --> 01:13:03.336
really need to work on that  as public

01:13:03.360 --> 01:13:05.896
transport and and I know the the issues

01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:08.816
with why the buses are being  sold off

01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:10.536
due to legislation and and the risk

01:13:10.560 --> 01:13:12.936
involved are real and there's nothing

01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:15.960
denying that but we really need to

01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:19.159
 refine  this policy further I

01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:22.840
believe so thank you thanks councelor

01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:24.576
Walker do any other councilors want to

01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:26.135
speak to the item

01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:29.159
it Council L steton I'll just  quickly

01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:32.695
add that again I think  this decision

01:13:32.719 --> 01:13:35.096
is a question of public value and the

01:13:35.120 --> 01:13:37.695
current bus arrangement provides a

01:13:37.719 --> 01:13:40.719
relatively high cost high-risk benefit

01:13:41.480 --> 01:13:44.480
to a small number of users on a a fairly

01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:47.760
infrequent basis  and that we know

01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:49.736
that the regulations and insurance

01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:51.336
surrounding Community

01:13:51.360 --> 01:13:54.360
buses it makes it I guess unwise and unv

01:13:55.360 --> 01:13:57.896
for Council to continue this service but

01:13:57.920 --> 01:13:59.655
I do acknowledge and agree that we need

01:13:59.679 --> 01:14:02.679
to Advocate and improve  for improved

01:14:03.320 --> 01:14:05.856
transport for our communities  like

01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:07.976
Lorneen and Dean Marsh and even areas

01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:11.000
Inlet where  and Angley it's it's

01:14:11.080 --> 01:14:14.080
really hard to get access to to public

01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:16.896
transport and I don't think that the

01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:19.896
solution is for Council to continue 

01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:21.936
providing Community buses for these

01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:23.896
communities but I would like to think

01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:26.496
that there is  other options out there

01:14:26.520 --> 01:14:29.520
that that can be explored to improve

01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:31.376
what is a really challenging situation

01:14:31.400 --> 01:14:33.416
particularly for vulnerable people 

01:14:33.440 --> 01:14:35.896
and seniors in our community so yeah I

01:14:35.920 --> 01:14:37.655
will support the motion but I'd like to

01:14:37.679 --> 01:14:40.416
see  more done to improve transport

01:14:40.440 --> 01:14:42.215
for our outline

01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:44.536
communities thank you do any other

01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:47.560
councilors wish to speak no thank you so

01:14:47.719 --> 01:14:50.719
are there any closing comments councelor

01:14:51.360 --> 01:14:53.816
peton no I think everyone's spoken very

01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:55.576
clearly ultimately we all know that

01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:57.576
public transport is so important and

01:14:57.600 --> 01:14:59.456
especially in our remote areas but

01:14:59.480 --> 01:15:02.135
Council has to manage its risks and

01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:05.159
costs closely and this is  this motion

01:15:05.679 --> 01:15:08.679
does that thank you thanks councilor

01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:10.175
Patterson we'll put the motion to the

01:15:10.199 --> 01:15:13.199
vote all in

01:15:13.679 --> 01:15:16.016
favor and

01:15:16.040 --> 01:15:19.040
against sorry I didn't count Council

01:15:19.080 --> 01:15:20.416
Patterson then so I'm going to go back

01:15:20.440 --> 01:15:22.376
to in favor sorry I forgot to look at

01:15:22.400 --> 01:15:25.400
the screen thank you and again

01:15:27.280 --> 01:15:29.056
so that's tied

01:15:29.080 --> 01:15:31.976
44  so in that case I get a second

01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:34.976
vote  and I'm going to vote for the

01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:37.896
motion so that motion is

01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:39.655
carried 

01:15:39.679 --> 01:15:42.679
54 Mayor can I just ask a question about

01:15:44.199 --> 01:15:46.695
governance and the governance laws

01:15:46.719 --> 01:15:48.816
because my understanding in some

01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:51.840
circstances with the status quo with a

01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:54.920
tied vote the status quo actually

01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:58.416
remains so I know the Mayor has and the

01:15:58.440 --> 01:16:01.440
chair has the casting vote but there is

01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:04.600
a principle with that so thanks for the

01:16:05.320 --> 01:16:07.576
question Council seford I'm happy to I

01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:09.536
have an answer in mind but I'm happy to

01:16:09.560 --> 01:16:11.536
refer that to the governance team for

01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:14.560
some governance

01:16:15.360 --> 01:16:18.215
advice through you mate can we hear this

01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:20.695
y great  so our governance rules are

01:16:20.719 --> 01:16:23.615
quite clear that the chair has a second

01:16:23.639 --> 01:16:26.376
vote  there is no mention of a casting

01:16:26.400 --> 01:16:29.400
vote  there there is no direct

01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:31.536
requirement for the chair to use the

01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:34.175
vote in any particular way in this case

01:16:34.199 --> 01:16:35.776
 thank you governance team thanks

01:16:35.800 --> 01:16:37.416
councelor Shan Felder for the question

01:16:37.440 --> 01:16:40.215
so that motion is carried

01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:43.239
54 Now we move on to 4.4 multi-art

01:16:44.199 --> 01:16:46.816
Center lease the purpose of this report

01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:49.215
is to seek council's agreement to enter

01:16:49.239 --> 01:16:52.096
a new lease with multi-arts Center

01:16:52.120 --> 01:16:55.120
Incorporated Mac Incorporated guarding

01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:58.096
the facility at 77 Beach Road to known

01:16:58.120 --> 01:17:00.936
as the multiart center or Mac we have a

01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:03.056
recommendation before us does anyone

01:17:03.080 --> 01:17:05.096
wish to move a motion councilor

01:17:05.120 --> 01:17:07.695
Patterson what is your

01:17:07.719 --> 01:17:10.256
motion governance can you put the motion

01:17:10.280 --> 01:17:11.936
that I'm putting forward on the screen

01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:14.960
please

01:17:29.440 --> 01:17:31.496
so I know that members of the gallery

01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:34.056
can't read what's on the screen so at an

01:17:34.080 --> 01:17:35.655
appropriate time I'm going to invite

01:17:35.679 --> 01:17:37.496
councilor Patterson to read

01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:40.496
out  at least the relevant inserts

01:17:40.520 --> 01:17:43.520
into what was the published

01:17:44.280 --> 01:17:46.536
recommendation when was this

01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:48.856
speculated  can I refer that question

01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:51.296
to the governance team please did you

01:17:51.320 --> 01:17:54.320
get the question

01:17:59.480 --> 01:18:02.056
through you may we received it  later

01:18:02.080 --> 01:18:04.776
this afternoon  5:16

01:18:04.800 --> 01:18:07.615
p.m. okay thanks governance

01:18:07.639 --> 01:18:10.576
team so councilor Patterson I'd invite

01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:13.600
you to read out doesn't have to be the

01:18:13.639 --> 01:18:15.936
whole motion but the  I can see the

01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:18.960
pieces in red that have been

01:18:22.639 --> 01:18:25.639
inserted thank you can you hear me there

01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:29.199
yep and just to clarify  I flagged

01:18:30.080 --> 01:18:33.080
this with  counselors and  officers

01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:36.896
at our agenda review this morning and

01:18:36.920 --> 01:18:39.096
then have progressed  to ensure

01:18:39.120 --> 01:18:41.016
there's not unintended consequences in

01:18:41.040 --> 01:18:43.615
on this motion working with officers to

01:18:43.639 --> 01:18:46.096
make sure it's  compliant shows good

01:18:46.120 --> 01:18:48.416
governance and the like and then it was

01:18:48.440 --> 01:18:50.536
the entire of it was circulated around

01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:53.560
5:00 today so  the key changes relate

01:18:55.159 --> 01:18:58.159
to that the  key performance

01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:01.560
indicators that  the council officers

01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:04.960
and the Mac develop targets for those so

01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:07.056
they there are some kpis which are put

01:19:07.080 --> 01:19:08.655
forward in the docent but they're not

01:19:08.679 --> 01:19:10.896
measurable without targets and so

01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:12.536
there's an item to say that the officers

01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:14.736
and Mac together determined to targets

01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:17.760
for those the other point is

01:19:18.320 --> 01:19:20.536
around  the requirement for the

01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:23.135
management plan  before the end of the

01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:25.976
lease period including a be reviewed 

01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:27.416
including a process to consider

01:19:27.440 --> 01:19:28.896
expressions of interest for user groups

01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:31.456
as part of a future management plan can

01:19:31.480 --> 01:19:34.480
you scroll down thank you  the main

01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:36.296
point that I wanted to include in this

01:19:36.320 --> 01:19:38.576
motion was a requirement that Mac

01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:40.576
executes Equitable User Group agreements

01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:43.056
with t theater troop and Surf  Coast Art

01:19:43.080 --> 01:19:44.856
Space to operate the theater and gallery

01:19:44.880 --> 01:19:46.695
space respectively and then an

01:19:46.719 --> 01:19:48.976
additional Point Mac Inc will manage the

01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:51.376
use of the Mac spaces and other shares

01:19:51.400 --> 01:19:53.695
spaces that's the motion that I'm

01:19:53.719 --> 01:19:55.096
putting forward Okay so thanks for

01:19:55.120 --> 01:19:56.456
clarifying the motion councelor

01:19:56.480 --> 01:19:58.896
Patterson do we have a second for this

01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:01.376
motion a question from councel Phelps

01:20:01.400 --> 01:20:03.536
question of process  so if I'd like to

01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:06.560
move a amendment to that motion can I do

01:20:07.280 --> 01:20:09.016
so

01:20:09.040 --> 01:20:12.040
now  I'm I'll stand to be corrected

01:20:12.679 --> 01:20:14.456
you can't do that until the motion is

01:20:14.480 --> 01:20:17.056
seconded if the motion is seconded then

01:20:17.080 --> 01:20:18.576
you could propose an amendment to the

01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:20.776
motion so I'm looking for a second for

01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:23.215
that motion thank you councilor

01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:26.239
Stapleton  Council Phillips if you'd

01:20:26.280 --> 01:20:28.135
like to propose an amendment you can now

01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:29.496
I'd just like to propose a minor

01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:30.896
amendment to

01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:33.695
1.2.8 so a requirement that Mac Inc

01:20:33.719 --> 01:20:36.135
executes equ Equitable user agreements

01:20:36.159 --> 01:20:38.215
with Torquay theater troop and Surf  Coast

01:20:38.239 --> 01:20:40.056
Art Space to operate the theater and

01:20:40.080 --> 01:20:42.776
gallery spaces respectively with

01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:45.800
durations of no less than 2 and A2

01:20:46.920 --> 01:20:49.896
years 2.5

01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:52.695
years okay thanks for clarifying that so

01:20:52.719 --> 01:20:55.719
the Mover and seconder are able to 

01:20:56.520 --> 01:20:59.520
tell us if they'd accept that Amendment

01:21:00.080 --> 01:21:01.976
so can I ask put that to the Mover in

01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:03.416
second or if that's an acceptable

01:21:03.440 --> 01:21:06.440
amendment to their

01:21:07.159 --> 01:21:10.159
motion thank you  chair I did consider

01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:14.159
this at length and I think  I think

01:21:15.199 --> 01:21:17.296
it's better that the Mac I think the

01:21:17.320 --> 01:21:19.776
intent is that it would be up to a 5year

01:21:19.800 --> 01:21:22.800
lease  and I think it's better for the

01:21:23.040 --> 01:21:25.736
Mac to have the Juris to determine

01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:28.760
exactly the length of  the lease and

01:21:30.360 --> 01:21:32.016
this kind of implies that it could be a

01:21:32.040 --> 01:21:35.040
shorter lease so look up

01:21:35.840 --> 01:21:38.336


01:21:38.360 --> 01:21:41.360
 I did decide that I didn't want to

01:21:41.400 --> 01:21:43.135
include that in the motion so I I won't

01:21:43.159 --> 01:21:44.376
accept

01:21:44.400 --> 01:21:47.400
that thanks councilor Patterson so 

01:21:48.639 --> 01:21:49.896
I'm just going to check in with the

01:21:49.920 --> 01:21:52.920
governance team on the process at this

01:21:53.320 --> 01:21:56.320
point through you m so you would now

01:21:56.480 --> 01:21:58.576
seek a seconder for the amendment and if

01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:00.736
seconded follow the amendment process

01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:03.655
thank you so does that Amendment have a

01:22:03.679 --> 01:22:06.679
seconder councilor Barker thank you 

01:22:07.159 --> 01:22:10.159
so we now move to debating the amendment

01:22:10.960 --> 01:22:12.536
as far as

01:22:12.560 --> 01:22:15.016
I remember thank you for the

01:22:15.040 --> 01:22:17.576
confirmation so we're now I'll now

01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:20.376
invite councilor Phelps to speak to the

01:22:20.400 --> 01:22:23.056
 to the

01:22:23.080 --> 01:22:25.256
amendment so I'm I've missed that so

01:22:25.280 --> 01:22:27.456
that has been accepted has it no it's so

01:22:27.480 --> 01:22:30.175
the the amendment has has been seconded

01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:33.199
as an amendment so  you're now able to

01:22:34.239 --> 01:22:36.456
speak to the amendment not to the

01:22:36.480 --> 01:22:38.256
substantive motion but to the amendment

01:22:38.280 --> 01:22:40.856
to your inclusion of that time frame y

01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:43.880
okay thank you  look just a a quick

01:22:44.120 --> 01:22:46.135
comment a key concern for any group like

01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:47.896
a theater or a gallery  is that

01:22:47.920 --> 01:22:49.776
they're building a brand over time

01:22:49.800 --> 01:22:52.800
security of tenure is important for that

01:22:53.480 --> 01:22:55.016


01:22:55.040 --> 01:22:58.040
the concept that has been explained to

01:22:58.120 --> 01:23:01.120
to us  about the the multi-art center

01:23:03.080 --> 01:23:06.080
 doesn't really fit in terms of having

01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:08.135
various groups come in come out come in

01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:10.215
come out  so security of tenure is a

01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:13.135
very important aspect of of any such

01:23:13.159 --> 01:23:16.159
group building a brand over time  in a

01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:18.175
space like that  so I would really

01:23:18.199 --> 01:23:19.936
like to see that this Pro proposal

01:23:19.960 --> 01:23:22.856
continues as  suggested by councelor

01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:25.655
Patterson but with a minim time frame

01:23:25.679 --> 01:23:28.096
for the user groups concerned just to

01:23:28.120 --> 01:23:30.936
provide that security thanks councel

01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:32.456
Phelps Council bar would you like to

01:23:32.480 --> 01:23:34.936
speak to the amendment no no  would

01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:36.215
anybody else like to speak to the

01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:38.536
amendment councelor

01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:41.560
Patterson thank you so  ultimately

01:23:42.360 --> 01:23:44.896
councelor  Phelps and I agree that we

01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:47.920
want our wonderful t theater troop and S

01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:51.760
Coast Art Space to have  long tenure

01:23:52.639 --> 01:23:54.896
and a sense of of ownersh ship and the

01:23:54.920 --> 01:23:57.920
like for their spaces the reason that I

01:23:57.960 --> 01:24:00.336
didn't include that in the motion the

01:24:00.360 --> 01:24:02.416
specific time frame of no of no less

01:24:02.440 --> 01:24:04.016
than 2 and a half years was that

01:24:04.040 --> 01:24:06.655
actually I think this is we need to give

01:24:06.679 --> 01:24:09.679
the Mac  the ability to to set

01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:12.416
reasonable user agreements and there may

01:24:12.440 --> 01:24:14.215
be some administrative reason why it's 4

01:24:14.239 --> 01:24:17.016
and 1/2 years or it's 2 and 1/2 years or

01:24:17.040 --> 01:24:19.615
it's 5 years and I I don't think that we

01:24:19.639 --> 01:24:21.816
should put those  caveats the

01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:23.496
intention is that it would be as long as

01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:25.615
possible we in the lease agreement that

01:24:25.639 --> 01:24:28.639
they have with the Shire but I think 

01:24:29.360 --> 01:24:32.336
to enable the Mac to  step up and be a

01:24:32.360 --> 01:24:34.896
great entity that that oversees both of

01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:36.695
these user agreements we should give

01:24:36.719 --> 01:24:39.719
them the space to do what works best 

01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:41.936
and I think there's it looks like when

01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:44.960
you say 2.5 no less than 2.5 years that

01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:47.496
that maybe a three-year lease is good

01:24:47.520 --> 01:24:49.776
whereas in essence I think a four and a

01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:51.896
half or five year lease makes more sense

01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:54.496
so it's based on on that but as

01:24:54.520 --> 01:24:56.256
counselors we should not be too

01:24:56.280 --> 01:24:57.776
operational in the way that we put

01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:00.256
forward motions and leave space for our

01:25:00.280 --> 01:25:02.336
officers and different user groups and

01:25:02.360 --> 01:25:04.536
and the like to actually do what's best

01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:06.736
for them and that's why it was admitted

01:25:06.760 --> 01:25:08.175
from what I put forward but at the end

01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:11.199
of the day  both are fine thanks

01:25:12.719 --> 01:25:14.016
councelor Patterson do any other

01:25:14.040 --> 01:25:17.040
councilors wish to speak to the proposed

01:25:17.800 --> 01:25:20.095
amendment councilor steton yeah look

01:25:20.119 --> 01:25:22.736
I'll just add that  I I too support

01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:25.416
the idea of giving  talk theater troop

01:25:25.440 --> 01:25:28.095
and Surf  Coast Art Space as long atena

01:25:28.119 --> 01:25:31.119
as possible and would be reluctant 

01:25:31.159 --> 01:25:33.576
not to support that Amendment purely on

01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:35.256
the fact that I think it is probably a

01:25:35.280 --> 01:25:37.896
bit too prescriptive and that the idea

01:25:37.920 --> 01:25:39.936
of giving them five years would be my

01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:41.896
preference rather than two and a half

01:25:41.920 --> 01:25:43.416
years  and I know you're not saying

01:25:43.440 --> 01:25:45.056
two and a half years sorry councilor

01:25:45.080 --> 01:25:48.080
Phelps  but yeah I think that it is a

01:25:48.360 --> 01:25:51.175
little prescriptive and hopefully 

01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:53.695
through the initiation of a of some new

01:25:53.719 --> 01:25:56.095
governance structures and a new lease

01:25:56.119 --> 01:25:58.456
that the user groups are able to

01:25:58.480 --> 01:26:01.056
negotiate with the Mac  suitable user

01:26:01.080 --> 01:26:03.655
agreements for the length  a

01:26:03.679 --> 01:26:05.936
reasonable length of

01:26:05.960 --> 01:26:08.576
time thanks councilor Stapleton do any

01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:10.056
other councilors wish to speak to the

01:26:10.080 --> 01:26:11.655
proposed

01:26:11.679 --> 01:26:14.135
amendment no thank you so we'll put the

01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:16.496
proposed amendment to the vote all those

01:26:16.520 --> 01:26:19.520
in

01:26:20.119 --> 01:26:23.119
favor thank you and those against

01:26:26.480 --> 01:26:29.175
thank you so that's the amendment vote

01:26:29.199 --> 01:26:30.856
is tied

01:26:30.880 --> 01:26:33.880
44  that gives me a second vote again

01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:36.416
in this case I'm actually going to vote

01:26:36.440 --> 01:26:38.496
 for the

01:26:38.520 --> 01:26:41.520
amendment so I'm voting for the

01:26:42.040 --> 01:26:43.936
amendment  which means that that

01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:46.960
amendment is carried and we can continue

01:26:48.719 --> 01:26:51.296
to debate the substantive motion which

01:26:51.320 --> 01:26:54.320
now includes that Amendment

01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:57.856
 so does anybody need to see that

01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:00.296
again or are we we good on what that

01:27:00.320 --> 01:27:02.695
contains and happy to keep going with

01:27:02.719 --> 01:27:03.615
the

01:27:03.639 --> 01:27:06.256
debate okay so I don't see anybody

01:27:06.280 --> 01:27:09.215
asking to see that again so on in the

01:27:09.239 --> 01:27:11.456
debate itself we had not commenced the

01:27:11.480 --> 01:27:14.480
debate on the substantive motion so 

01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:17.856
the Mover is councelor Patterson and the

01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:20.880
second is counselor steton so I now

01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:23.695
invite the Mover and seconder to  to

01:27:23.719 --> 01:27:25.776
start the debate so councelor

01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:28.800
Patterson great thank you we currently

01:27:29.159 --> 01:27:30.615
have two thriving Community

01:27:30.639 --> 01:27:32.776
organizations The Talk The Troop and

01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:35.135
Seth Coast Art Space as we can see from

01:27:35.159 --> 01:27:37.776
the statistics of the Mac  provided in

01:27:37.800 --> 01:27:40.215
the agenda they are providing an amazing

01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:41.816
service to the community through their

01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:44.376
Arts offerings both for artists to be

01:27:44.400 --> 01:27:46.416
involved as well as attendees at amazing

01:27:46.440 --> 01:27:48.456
exhibitions and performances I'm really

01:27:48.480 --> 01:27:50.095
proud of the Arts community that we have

01:27:50.119 --> 01:27:52.695
on the Surf  Coast we should all so be so

01:27:52.719 --> 01:27:54.615
proud of our amazing so and we should

01:27:54.639 --> 01:27:57.496
all be and that that is ultimately that

01:27:57.520 --> 01:27:59.655
the Mac offering and that wonderful Art

01:27:59.679 --> 01:28:02.376
Space that we have there  as the

01:28:02.400 --> 01:28:05.400
motion  I have put forward  the

01:28:05.719 --> 01:28:07.576
preferred leasing model going forward is

01:28:07.600 --> 01:28:10.175
to enter a new lease  with the Mac

01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:13.199
with new measurable kpis  that are

01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:16.840
specifically defined  and measurable

01:28:17.080 --> 01:28:19.576
as outlined with the through offices 

01:28:19.600 --> 01:28:21.536
and the mac and the ability for user

01:28:21.560 --> 01:28:23.016
groups to have a representative on the

01:28:23.040 --> 01:28:25.056
Mac committee which I think is really

01:28:25.080 --> 01:28:28.080
important  and user and direct user

01:28:28.679 --> 01:28:30.976
user agreements so the Mac doesn't go

01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:32.536
through an eii process but they have

01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:35.560
user agreements  through with TT and

01:28:35.719 --> 01:28:38.719
skz  and because we want the mac and

01:28:39.239 --> 01:28:41.456
inherently both of those user groups to

01:28:41.480 --> 01:28:43.776
continue to thrive with Equitable User

01:28:43.800 --> 01:28:46.800
Group  agreements and  I've put

01:28:47.040 --> 01:28:48.776
forward this motion to ensure that our

01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:50.936
currently thriving groups have certainty

01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:52.576
that their user groups will be will

01:28:52.600 --> 01:28:55.600
proceed with these Equitable user

01:28:55.840 --> 01:28:58.840
agreements  and ultimately I think

01:28:59.040 --> 01:29:02.040
when we were talking through  this

01:29:02.719 --> 01:29:05.536
item  I think we were constantly

01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:07.215
thinking further into the future but

01:29:07.239 --> 01:29:08.936
ultimately the changes that have been

01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:10.976
put forward in this motion reflect that

01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:12.695
we're looking at what we have now which

01:29:12.719 --> 01:29:15.719
is two amazing  user groups and an

01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:18.215
overarching Mac at which there are some

01:29:18.239 --> 01:29:20.336
changed government structures which will

01:29:20.360 --> 01:29:23.016
enable sort of equal representation and

01:29:23.040 --> 01:29:24.615
and better govern

01:29:24.639 --> 01:29:26.536
and I think we should give the Mac

01:29:26.560 --> 01:29:28.095
another opportunity over this next

01:29:28.119 --> 01:29:31.119
management plan  because having  the

01:29:32.400 --> 01:29:34.816
Mac that really promotes the Arts

01:29:34.840 --> 01:29:37.376
offerings across both theater and

01:29:37.400 --> 01:29:40.400
gallery  has great opportunities for

01:29:41.040 --> 01:29:43.576
our community and once again we talked

01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:45.095
about this with the winshield seashire

01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:48.056
Hall but our council's focus is on a

01:29:48.080 --> 01:29:50.215
Community Development approach and

01:29:50.239 --> 01:29:52.416
ideally the community is is running the

01:29:52.440 --> 01:29:55.175
whole entity with us agreements and the

01:29:55.199 --> 01:29:56.896
like and that's that's the model that

01:29:56.920 --> 01:29:59.175
Council moved towards so that that that

01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:01.175
we're enabling our community to do what

01:30:01.199 --> 01:30:04.199
they do best so  in 5 years the

01:30:04.760 --> 01:30:07.056
management plan will be reviewed with

01:30:07.080 --> 01:30:10.080
Mac  and I'm hopeful that we will have

01:30:11.639 --> 01:30:13.336
 wonderful government structures two

01:30:13.360 --> 01:30:15.655
very happy user groups that want to

01:30:15.679 --> 01:30:18.095
continue  and and we move forward

01:30:18.119 --> 01:30:19.615
they'd be meeting their kpis and it's

01:30:19.639 --> 01:30:21.095
wonderful and that would be what we

01:30:21.119 --> 01:30:23.135
would aspire to but it will be reviewed

01:30:23.159 --> 01:30:24.536
again at that 

01:30:24.560 --> 01:30:27.376
at that 5e time  and if that's not the

01:30:27.400 --> 01:30:30.376
case then those other  eii

01:30:30.400 --> 01:30:32.215
arrangements and the like can come into

01:30:32.239 --> 01:30:35.175
play at that point  I wanted to point

01:30:35.199 --> 01:30:36.655
out and I think it's really important

01:30:36.679 --> 01:30:39.056
our  officers at the show are all

01:30:39.080 --> 01:30:42.080
about Equity of  access to Services

01:30:42.840 --> 01:30:45.840
about encouraging  art the Arts across

01:30:46.679 --> 01:30:49.296
our whole community and being inclusive

01:30:49.320 --> 01:30:51.256
and in that concept when you think about

01:30:51.280 --> 01:30:53.336
it it would make sense to have e an eoi

01:30:53.360 --> 01:30:56.360
process now to confirm  that  TT and

01:30:58.080 --> 01:31:01.080
scaz are the best people to move forward

01:31:01.360 --> 01:31:04.056
with user agreements  at the Mac

01:31:04.080 --> 01:31:05.695
however I really think we need to think

01:31:05.719 --> 01:31:07.536
about the hard work that both of these

01:31:07.560 --> 01:31:09.816
groups have been  putting in over the

01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:12.840
years to build  both of their amazing

01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:15.896
offerings  and we're about to you know

01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:17.976
there's refurbishments underway both of

01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:20.095
these groups will be coming back  you

01:31:20.119 --> 01:31:22.776
know are looking to come back to the to

01:31:22.800 --> 01:31:25.256
you know these to the mac and I think it

01:31:25.280 --> 01:31:26.576
makes sense the hard work that they've

01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:29.600
done that we acknowledge that and we 

01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:32.976
give the opportunity for the Mec to

01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:34.936
enter into user agreements directly with

01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:37.135
both of these groups we really want them

01:31:37.159 --> 01:31:40.159
to feel  ownership over their spaces

01:31:40.719 --> 01:31:42.376
because they're doing wonderful work and

01:31:42.400 --> 01:31:44.576
we really want to support our volunteers

01:31:44.600 --> 01:31:46.536
it's a big commitment what they're doing

01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:49.215
and I myself and I know a lot in our

01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:50.496
community and those that attend the

01:31:50.520 --> 01:31:52.536
wonderful performance really value the

01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:54.095
work that's being done by all of

01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:57.119
volunteers  and artists and performers

01:31:57.400 --> 01:31:59.016
and the like because it's not just

01:31:59.040 --> 01:32:02.040
volunteers obviously the gallery  has

01:32:02.600 --> 01:32:03.936
 you know artists coming and

01:32:03.960 --> 01:32:06.095
exhibiting and selling work as well so

01:32:06.119 --> 01:32:07.496
 there's many layers to it but

01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:10.520
ultimately  I think this motion meets

01:32:10.719 --> 01:32:12.776
the balance in supporting those user

01:32:12.800 --> 01:32:14.816
groups but enabling the broader Arts

01:32:14.840 --> 01:32:17.376
offering so I encourage counselors to

01:32:17.400 --> 01:32:19.856
support the motion thank you thanks

01:32:19.880 --> 01:32:22.496
councelor Patterson councelor steton

01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:24.816
thanks Mayor 

01:32:24.840 --> 01:32:26.376
this item has been given great

01:32:26.400 --> 01:32:28.936
consideration by counselors and  I

01:32:28.960 --> 01:32:30.816
just want to thank all of those involved

01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:33.840
who have contacted us with feedback and

01:32:33.880 --> 01:32:36.576
additional insights to help us in our

01:32:36.600 --> 01:32:37.536
decision

01:32:37.560 --> 01:32:40.560
making  ultimately we really want to

01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:43.135
do what we can to support community-led

01:32:43.159 --> 01:32:46.135
arts groups to flourish and various

01:32:46.159 --> 01:32:48.135
these options have been proposed and

01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:50.576
considered  but based on what I've

01:32:50.600 --> 01:32:53.135
read and understand I'm happy to support

01:32:53.159 --> 01:32:55.936
 the motion  that's been moved to

01:32:55.960 --> 01:32:57.615
enter into a lease agreement with Mac

01:32:57.639 --> 01:32:59.655
for 5 years with an updated management

01:32:59.679 --> 01:33:02.679
plan  I do support the addition 

01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:06.800
proposed by councelor Patterson that Mac

01:33:06.840 --> 01:33:09.416
the Mac executes direct user agreements

01:33:09.440 --> 01:33:12.056
with  talky theater troop and Surf 

01:33:12.080 --> 01:33:14.856
Coast Arts rather than  an immediate

01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:16.776
eoi process to provide them with the

01:33:16.800 --> 01:33:19.056
reassurance that's needed to continue

01:33:19.080 --> 01:33:21.095
delivering the really important and

01:33:21.119 --> 01:33:23.256
valuable Arts programs that  they're

01:33:23.280 --> 01:33:26.135
providing for our community  although

01:33:26.159 --> 01:33:28.016
the motion includes a minim time of

01:33:28.040 --> 01:33:31.040
2.5 years I hope that the M committee 

01:33:31.440 --> 01:33:33.736
is able to deliver longer term

01:33:33.760 --> 01:33:36.095
agreements and sustainable agreements

01:33:36.119 --> 01:33:38.896
for for both user groups  over the 5

01:33:38.920 --> 01:33:41.655
years and I'm hopeful that our Arts

01:33:41.679 --> 01:33:44.679
Community can  focus on delivering

01:33:45.400 --> 01:33:47.576
Great Performances and exhibitions for

01:33:47.600 --> 01:33:50.600
our community leaving the administration

01:33:50.719 --> 01:33:52.456
 and the governance to the MC

01:33:52.480 --> 01:33:54.296
committee to provide that

01:33:54.320 --> 01:33:56.776
overarching  leadership in the art

01:33:56.800 --> 01:33:59.800
space and  much needed advocacy on

01:34:00.280 --> 01:34:03.095
behalf of all the arts groups in our

01:34:03.119 --> 01:34:06.119
community  so that I guess as a

01:34:07.239 --> 01:34:08.695
committee the mech will be helping

01:34:08.719 --> 01:34:11.336
Council  to achieve its Vision  for

01:34:11.360 --> 01:34:13.655
this much loved community space and we

01:34:13.679 --> 01:34:15.615
know it's a really important community

01:34:15.639 --> 01:34:18.215
space  in the delivery of arts for the

01:34:18.239 --> 01:34:19.576
Surf 

01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:22.600
Coast  I think that you know we know

01:34:23.400 --> 01:34:25.896
there have been significant outcomes and

01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:28.496
achievements as a result of the Mac

01:34:28.520 --> 01:34:30.576
being a dedicated Arts facility I think

01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:33.215
it was  inspirational for those that

01:34:33.239 --> 01:34:34.536
sort of came up with the idea of

01:34:34.560 --> 01:34:37.175
converting the old Sport and rec center

01:34:37.199 --> 01:34:40.199
into an art center and we've seen  how

01:34:40.480 --> 01:34:43.480
that has flourished  and you know the

01:34:44.400 --> 01:34:47.400
the groups have won multiple Awards 

01:34:47.960 --> 01:34:49.655
with' Pro they've profiled hundreds of

01:34:49.679 --> 01:34:51.936
artists there's been opportunities for

01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:54.016
volunteering theater plays and

01:34:54.040 --> 01:34:56.135
exhibitions and connection to council

01:34:56.159 --> 01:34:58.376
events such as the Arts Trail  we know

01:34:58.400 --> 01:35:01.135
there's also been substantial facility

01:35:01.159 --> 01:35:03.215
improvements  with more currently

01:35:03.239 --> 01:35:05.175
underway through the $1.5 million

01:35:05.199 --> 01:35:07.576
refurbishment Grant so  as well as

01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:09.135
supporting this recommendation I just

01:35:09.159 --> 01:35:11.776
want to reiterate the value that both t

01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:13.976
theater troop and Surf  Coast Arts have

01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:15.776
delivered for our community and thank

01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:18.416
you so much for your dedication and hard

01:35:18.440 --> 01:35:20.296
work to achieve such significant

01:35:20.320 --> 01:35:22.536
outcomes for the Arts community so thank

01:35:22.560 --> 01:35:25.560
you thanks councelor steton do any other

01:35:25.639 --> 01:35:27.695
councilors wish to speak to the motion

01:35:27.719 --> 01:35:30.336
councelor Barker thanks  the M Art

01:35:30.360 --> 01:35:32.135
Center where rate payer money goes to

01:35:32.159 --> 01:35:34.336
fund creativity whether you like it or

01:35:34.360 --> 01:35:36.896
not a guiding principle of my decision-

01:35:36.920 --> 01:35:38.736
making is the voluntary interaction

01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:40.496
between consenting

01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:43.520
adults this motion does not achieve

01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:46.016
that Council wants to renew a 5-year

01:35:46.040 --> 01:35:47.816
lease with subsidized rent and shared

01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:49.896
costs now while I'm supportive of the

01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:51.296
Arts I've bought paintings from local

01:35:51.320 --> 01:35:53.695
artists and been a movie the best way to

01:35:53.719 --> 01:35:56.016
fund them is through voluntary means not

01:35:56.040 --> 01:35:58.976
force taxation through rates if artists

01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:01.215
can't sustain themselves through ticket

01:36:01.239 --> 01:36:04.135
sales patrons or other sponsorship why

01:36:04.159 --> 01:36:05.816
should rate payers cover the

01:36:05.840 --> 01:36:08.175
bill I've made mention before that when

01:36:08.199 --> 01:36:09.856
governments involve themselves in

01:36:09.880 --> 01:36:12.376
activities it removes the appetite for

01:36:12.400 --> 01:36:15.400
private investment I think this private

01:36:15.440 --> 01:36:17.856
voluntarily contributed funding model

01:36:17.880 --> 01:36:19.615
could quite easily fund the max

01:36:19.639 --> 01:36:22.056
operations if it's as valued in the

01:36:22.080 --> 01:36:25.080
community as I think it is

01:36:25.119 --> 01:36:26.615
I oppose this recommendation because it

01:36:26.639 --> 01:36:29.215
forces rate payers to subsidize a

01:36:29.239 --> 01:36:31.456
non-essential though valued

01:36:31.480 --> 01:36:34.376
service the Arts should be voluntarily

01:36:34.400 --> 01:36:37.400
funded but not through

01:36:37.480 --> 01:36:39.536
coercion thanks councilor Barker

01:36:39.560 --> 01:36:42.560
councelor Phelps thank you may  as

01:36:42.800 --> 01:36:44.936
mentioned we have had two distinct users

01:36:44.960 --> 01:36:46.655
of the multi-art center being the

01:36:46.679 --> 01:36:48.536
theater group and the gallery group with

01:36:48.560 --> 01:36:51.496
clearly Del delineated spaces that they

01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:53.615
have been successfully making use of for

01:36:53.639 --> 01:36:56.336
a few years now as noted in the report

01:36:56.360 --> 01:36:58.016
there are additionally some common areas

01:36:58.040 --> 01:36:59.376
and other spaces available to use

01:36:59.400 --> 01:37:02.376
between themselves and other groups I do

01:37:02.400 --> 01:37:03.976
see two direct leases with the user

01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:06.175
groups concerned being an effective and

01:37:06.199 --> 01:37:08.016
definitive solution to ensuring that the

01:37:08.040 --> 01:37:10.016
multiart center continues to thrive as

01:37:10.040 --> 01:37:11.936
both performance arts and visual arts

01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:13.896
spaces that involve many in the

01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:16.376
community as audiences and as

01:37:16.400 --> 01:37:18.816
participants that being said I believe

01:37:18.840 --> 01:37:20.336
the changes being proposed to the

01:37:20.360 --> 01:37:22.776
structure of the Headless e Mac Inc

01:37:22.800 --> 01:37:24.376
offer a different way of doing things

01:37:24.400 --> 01:37:26.256
that really should lead to sustainable

01:37:26.280 --> 01:37:28.095
and Equitable use of the multi-art

01:37:28.119 --> 01:37:30.496
center and more importantly offer

01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:32.776
opportunity to community members who are

01:37:32.800 --> 01:37:34.336
more generally interested in supporting

01:37:34.360 --> 01:37:37.360
and growing the Arts in and around Torquay I

01:37:37.440 --> 01:37:38.856
note that the finer details around the

01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:40.536
lease requirements are yet to be

01:37:40.560 --> 01:37:42.776
determined by officers  for example

01:37:42.800 --> 01:37:44.256
key performance indicators and

01:37:44.280 --> 01:37:47.215
Associated targets and benchmarks I am

01:37:47.239 --> 01:37:48.456
pleased to see the proposal being

01:37:48.480 --> 01:37:50.856
amended with coun Patterson's ideas and

01:37:50.880 --> 01:37:52.175
that it now provides the minim

01:37:52.199 --> 01:37:54.655
security of tenure

01:37:54.679 --> 01:37:56.175
thanks councelor Phelps do any other

01:37:56.199 --> 01:37:59.199
councilors want to speak to the

01:37:59.679 --> 01:38:02.679
motion no thank you we will now put that

01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:05.760
motion to a vote all those in

01:38:07.719 --> 01:38:10.719
favor thanks councils and against thank

01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:13.536
you so that motion is

01:38:13.560 --> 01:38:16.246
carried

01:38:16.270 --> 01:38:19.270
[Laughter]

01:38:20.520 --> 01:38:23.520
71 thank you councilors

01:38:24.599 --> 01:38:27.599
the next item is 4.5 SCS 065 Surf  Coast

01:38:29.360 --> 01:38:31.896
public art policy the purpose of this

01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:33.256
report is to

01:38:33.280 --> 01:38:36.280
seek thanks everyone seek council's

01:38:36.599 --> 01:38:39.095
endorsement for the public exhibition of

01:38:39.119 --> 01:38:42.119
the SCS 065 Surf  Coast public art policy

01:38:43.360 --> 01:38:45.416
we have a recommendation before us does

01:38:45.440 --> 01:38:46.936
anyone wish to move a

01:38:46.960 --> 01:38:49.960
motion thanks councilor Stapleton and do

01:38:50.400 --> 01:38:51.655
we have a

01:38:51.679 --> 01:38:54.679
seconder thanks councelor Walker

01:38:54.800 --> 01:38:57.016
councilor stapon would you like to speak

01:38:57.040 --> 01:39:00.040
to the motion I will thank you Mayor 

01:39:00.159 --> 01:39:03.159
it's great to see this draft  public

01:39:03.199 --> 01:39:05.135
art policy come to council for

01:39:05.159 --> 01:39:07.215
consideration and I hope it's supported

01:39:07.239 --> 01:39:08.575
 to go out to the community for

01:39:08.599 --> 01:39:11.599
engagement and feedback I remember a few

01:39:11.639 --> 01:39:14.135
years ago we were contacted by a local

01:39:14.159 --> 01:39:17.095
Angley resident  inquiring as to

01:39:17.119 --> 01:39:18.776
whether Council had a public Arts

01:39:18.800 --> 01:39:20.655
reGrister and whether there was any

01:39:20.679 --> 01:39:22.856
allocation for maintenance because she

01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:25.175
was particular concerned about  a

01:39:25.199 --> 01:39:26.736
sculpture in the community that looked

01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:27.896
to be

01:39:27.920 --> 01:39:30.056
deteriorating  at that point in time

01:39:30.080 --> 01:39:32.936
there was no comprehensive Arts reGrister

01:39:32.960 --> 01:39:35.776
and  it was recognized subsequently as

01:39:35.800 --> 01:39:38.256
a priority in the creative places

01:39:38.280 --> 01:39:40.175
strategy that was adopted in

01:39:40.199 --> 01:39:42.496
2023 so I feel like we've we've gone

01:39:42.520 --> 01:39:45.135
full circle and we now have a a public

01:39:45.159 --> 01:39:48.159
Arts policy  for Community to consider

01:39:48.440 --> 01:39:50.056
we know that officers have worked really

01:39:50.080 --> 01:39:52.296
hard since that time to colate a full

01:39:52.320 --> 01:39:55.320
inventory of public art across the Shire

01:39:55.360 --> 01:39:57.175
 we know there's an amazing array of

01:39:57.199 --> 01:39:59.056
artwork but we didn't necessarily always

01:39:59.080 --> 01:40:02.080
know  where it was why it was there

01:40:02.239 --> 01:40:05.239
who  provided it and whether or how it

01:40:05.639 --> 01:40:08.639
was being  maintained so that process

01:40:09.320 --> 01:40:11.936
 will Kickstart a regular public art

01:40:11.960 --> 01:40:14.536
audit and condition report assessment to

01:40:14.560 --> 01:40:16.736
be undertaken every 3 years now as part

01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:19.760
of this policy public art adds so much

01:40:20.400 --> 01:40:22.336
value to our community I can think of

01:40:22.360 --> 01:40:24.456
many sculptures and murals in public

01:40:24.480 --> 01:40:26.776
spaces that add vibrancy and help create

01:40:26.800 --> 01:40:29.776
a sense of place for example I love the

01:40:29.800 --> 01:40:31.655
way the Aries Inlet Community Hall has

01:40:31.679 --> 01:40:33.856
been transformed by the Jeffrey Karan

01:40:33.880 --> 01:40:36.135
hoodie mural and that the location is

01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:38.856
now commonly referred to as hoodie Hall

01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:40.896
across the sh we have public seating

01:40:40.920 --> 01:40:42.976
that doubles as art we have creative

01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:45.816
playground installations artistic tree

01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:48.215
stps and more public art helps tell

01:40:48.239 --> 01:40:50.655
local stories old and new and can help

01:40:50.679 --> 01:40:53.496
to define a community's identity

01:40:53.520 --> 01:40:55.615
beyond the local enjoyment of public art

01:40:55.639 --> 01:40:57.175
we know that it can also attract

01:40:57.199 --> 01:40:59.256
interest from afar and bring visitors to

01:40:59.280 --> 01:41:01.536
explore and connect with our community

01:41:01.560 --> 01:41:03.215
as we're seeing right here in Lorne at

01:41:03.239 --> 01:41:05.976
the moment with the sculpture B Ali Surf 

01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:08.296
Coast established a reputation as one of

01:41:08.320 --> 01:41:10.655
regional Australia's top creative

01:41:10.679 --> 01:41:12.976
hotspots we know that public art is

01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:14.736
important so we should be looking after

01:41:14.760 --> 01:41:17.095
it this policy will help guide Council

01:41:17.119 --> 01:41:19.856
to achieve that it provides a long-term

01:41:19.880 --> 01:41:21.856
framework for sustainable management of

01:41:21.880 --> 01:41:23.936
public art in the Surf  Coast

01:41:23.960 --> 01:41:26.135
addressing how we acquire or commission

01:41:26.159 --> 01:41:28.296
artworks in the first place how we

01:41:28.320 --> 01:41:30.575
maintain and care for them and clear

01:41:30.599 --> 01:41:32.376
guidelines if a piece of art needs to be

01:41:32.400 --> 01:41:35.400
decommissioned and removed from a public

01:41:35.440 --> 01:41:38.296
space it means that existing new public

01:41:38.320 --> 01:41:39.816
artworks around the shy will be

01:41:39.840 --> 01:41:42.296
recognized as important assets that are

01:41:42.320 --> 01:41:44.816
included on council's asset reGrister

01:41:44.840 --> 01:41:46.456
with an accompanying maintenance

01:41:46.480 --> 01:41:49.215
schedule to safeguard against damage and

01:41:49.239 --> 01:41:51.296
deterioration it will also help ensure

01:41:51.320 --> 01:41:52.896
that information on all artworks is

01:41:52.920 --> 01:41:55.135
reord reported and kept up to date

01:41:55.159 --> 01:41:57.296
ultimately this policy will help ensure

01:41:57.320 --> 01:41:59.655
long-term preservation of public art and

01:41:59.679 --> 01:42:01.336
help maintain the significance and

01:42:01.360 --> 01:42:03.615
integrity of artworks while protecting

01:42:03.639 --> 01:42:06.135
artist rights whether artworks are

01:42:06.159 --> 01:42:07.936
commissioned directly by Council or

01:42:07.960 --> 01:42:09.496
acquired through grants private

01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:11.416
developers community-led projects or

01:42:11.440 --> 01:42:13.456
other means we are committing through

01:42:13.480 --> 01:42:15.575
this policy to ensure best practice

01:42:15.599 --> 01:42:17.816
management and care of Surf  Coast public

01:42:17.840 --> 01:42:19.936
art collection as part of council's

01:42:19.960 --> 01:42:21.816
obligation to the artist and to our

01:42:21.840 --> 01:42:23.856
community I enourage my fellow

01:42:23.880 --> 01:42:25.896
counselors to support this motion so

01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:27.856
that the draft policy can be exhibited

01:42:27.880 --> 01:42:29.575
and Community provided with an

01:42:29.599 --> 01:42:31.336
opportunity to respond and provide

01:42:31.360 --> 01:42:34.360
feedback thank you thanks Council stavon

01:42:35.320 --> 01:42:38.256
Council Walker thank you Mayor  an

01:42:38.280 --> 01:42:41.280
order in 2024 found 279 amazing public

01:42:42.280 --> 01:42:45.056
art items there's no current framework

01:42:45.080 --> 01:42:47.655
to manage public art this draft policy

01:42:47.679 --> 01:42:49.496
and public display or ensure public art

01:42:49.520 --> 01:42:51.056
in the Surf  Coast in conjunction with

01:42:51.080 --> 01:42:52.816
gorea will be managed sustainable

01:42:52.840 --> 01:42:54.256
through lifetime of art from the

01:42:54.280 --> 01:42:56.016
development conception maintenance and

01:42:56.040 --> 01:42:59.040
the end of life of that art the policy

01:42:59.080 --> 01:43:00.856
will help create a unified approach to

01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:03.215
the to the acceptance management and

01:43:03.239 --> 01:43:05.976
Care each installation has a lifespan

01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:08.296
and often requires maintenance it is

01:43:08.320 --> 01:43:09.575
good to see some structure being put

01:43:09.599 --> 01:43:11.736
around this with a policy that defined

01:43:11.760 --> 01:43:13.336
whether and how Council becomes

01:43:13.360 --> 01:43:15.655
responsible for public art how it will

01:43:15.679 --> 01:43:17.016
look after it and what happens at the

01:43:17.040 --> 01:43:19.496
end of its useful life a line item in

01:43:19.520 --> 01:43:21.215
the budget provides full transparency on

01:43:21.239 --> 01:43:23.655
what this is costing rate payers

01:43:23.679 --> 01:43:25.496
this policy is a positive addition and

01:43:25.520 --> 01:43:28.175
accordingly I'm happy to support

01:43:28.199 --> 01:43:30.736
it thanks councelor philps councelor

01:43:30.760 --> 01:43:33.760
berer thanks  public art the Pinnacle

01:43:33.840 --> 01:43:36.376
of public purchasing priorities the

01:43:36.400 --> 01:43:37.816
pragmatic elements of management are

01:43:37.840 --> 01:43:40.336
fine but council's proposing a policy

01:43:40.360 --> 01:43:42.336
that keeps spending money on murals

01:43:42.360 --> 01:43:45.296
sculptures and even ephemeral art fancy

01:43:45.320 --> 01:43:46.695
term for art that

01:43:46.719 --> 01:43:49.376
disappears let's be clear Council

01:43:49.400 --> 01:43:52.400
committees should not be deciding what

01:43:52.520 --> 01:43:55.520
art is worthy of funding if it's good

01:43:55.880 --> 01:43:58.296
people will pay if it's not why should

01:43:58.320 --> 01:44:00.856
rate payers for the bill I oppose this

01:44:00.880 --> 01:44:02.856
recommendation because it because art

01:44:02.880 --> 01:44:05.456
should be funded voluntarily not through

01:44:05.480 --> 01:44:08.256
forc payments from rate payers if

01:44:08.280 --> 01:44:10.016
businesses and individuals want public

01:44:10.040 --> 01:44:11.976
art I'll be happy to consider the

01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:13.976
allocation of public land for it to be

01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:16.695
placed on but let them pay for it

01:44:16.719 --> 01:44:19.456
directly won't be supporting the motion

01:44:19.480 --> 01:44:21.095
thanks councelor Barker do any other

01:44:21.119 --> 01:44:24.119
councilors wish to speak to this motion

01:44:25.719 --> 01:44:28.719
 C  councel B  hopefully I'm not

01:44:30.639 --> 01:44:33.639
sure there we go  public art is  a a

01:44:35.360 --> 01:44:37.016
really important part of our Collective

01:44:37.040 --> 01:44:40.040
identity I think  it's it's

01:44:40.440 --> 01:44:43.440
foundational to being able to stop and

01:44:43.719 --> 01:44:46.719
reflect along the way  I I very I put

01:44:48.800 --> 01:44:51.095
a really high value on on local artists

01:44:51.119 --> 01:44:53.135
and artwork I think this is a really

01:44:53.159 --> 01:44:55.496
important policy to to put forward

01:44:55.520 --> 01:44:57.095
thanks councelor Burke do any other

01:44:57.119 --> 01:44:58.936
counselors wish to speak to

01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:00.736
this

01:45:00.760 --> 01:45:03.496
item  so councelor Stapleton do you

01:45:03.520 --> 01:45:05.856
have any closing comments no that's fine

01:45:05.880 --> 01:45:07.896
thanks me thanks councilors we'll put

01:45:07.920 --> 01:45:10.920
the motion to a vote all in

01:45:11.239 --> 01:45:14.239
favor thank you and against thanks

01:45:14.599 --> 01:45:17.599
councilors so that motion is carried 71

01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:25.816


01:45:25.840 --> 01:45:28.840
4.6 customer experience by annual update

01:45:29.040 --> 01:45:31.816
July to December 2024 the purpose of

01:45:31.840 --> 01:45:33.615
this report is to provide council with

01:45:33.639 --> 01:45:36.639
the customer experience by annual update

01:45:36.800 --> 01:45:39.800
for July to December 2024 we have a

01:45:40.199 --> 01:45:41.976
recommendation do any councilors wish to

01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:43.175
move a

01:45:43.199 --> 01:45:46.199
motion council Barker is that as thank you

01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:48.016
and a

01:45:48.040 --> 01:45:50.016
seconder council

01:45:50.040 --> 01:45:52.456
Patterson thanks Council Barker I invite

01:45:52.480 --> 01:45:55.215
you to speak to the motion thanks now

01:45:55.239 --> 01:45:56.536
the council's pting itself on the back

01:45:56.560 --> 01:45:59.560
for maintaining a 94% Time completion

01:45:59.679 --> 01:46:01.776
rate for customer requests let's go a

01:46:01.800 --> 01:46:03.016
little bit

01:46:03.040 --> 01:46:04.936
deeper while that figure sounds

01:46:04.960 --> 01:46:06.816
impressive it's actually a decline from

01:46:06.840 --> 01:46:09.840
95% in the previous period and for First

01:46:10.280 --> 01:46:13.280
Contact resolution is also down only 15%

01:46:13.400 --> 01:46:15.095
of customer inquiries were resolved

01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:17.016
immediately down from

01:46:17.040 --> 01:46:20.040
16% complaints 35 formal investigations

01:46:21.159 --> 01:46:22.695
slightly fewer than last time which is

01:46:22.719 --> 01:46:23.856
good

01:46:23.880 --> 01:46:25.776
but over half of them related to outdoor

01:46:25.800 --> 01:46:28.456
maintenance roads drainage and

01:46:28.480 --> 01:46:31.480
Facilities now that tells us the basics

01:46:31.719 --> 01:46:33.856
the things that rate payers expect

01:46:33.880 --> 01:46:35.736
aren't being handled as well as they

01:46:35.760 --> 01:46:38.760
should be and what's council's biggest

01:46:39.199 --> 01:46:41.376
achievement it's commitment to

01:46:41.400 --> 01:46:42.256
understanding

01:46:42.280 --> 01:46:44.296
performance well that's

01:46:44.320 --> 01:46:46.336
lovely but where's the commitment to

01:46:46.360 --> 01:46:47.776
actually improving

01:46:47.800 --> 01:46:49.695
performance we talk about high

01:46:49.719 --> 01:46:52.719
performing organization I don't see that

01:46:54.040 --> 01:46:55.615
we don't need reports to tell us

01:46:55.639 --> 01:46:58.135
Services should be better we can all see

01:46:58.159 --> 01:47:01.159
it what we need is the actual services

01:47:01.360 --> 01:47:04.360
to be better I don't support this report

01:47:04.679 --> 01:47:07.376
as a measure of success the real

01:47:07.400 --> 01:47:09.615
question should be why does council need

01:47:09.639 --> 01:47:12.416
to be involved in so many services that

01:47:12.440 --> 01:47:14.135
could be handled more efficiently by

01:47:14.159 --> 01:47:17.095
private contractors voluntary means user

01:47:17.119 --> 01:47:20.119
pay models or Community Le 

01:47:20.719 --> 01:47:23.575
initiatives thank you Council backa

01:47:23.599 --> 01:47:26.599
councelor

01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:30.000
Patterson thank you so I there will

01:47:31.400 --> 01:47:32.695
always be mixed views around the

01:47:32.719 --> 01:47:35.095
customer experience that you know our

01:47:35.119 --> 01:47:37.816
residents rate payers visitors

01:47:37.840 --> 01:47:40.655
experience when as part of the surth

01:47:40.679 --> 01:47:43.679
Coast High but I as an engineer love the

01:47:43.760 --> 01:47:46.456
data and this report does provide that

01:47:46.480 --> 01:47:48.496
data and it clearly shows how our

01:47:48.520 --> 01:47:50.456
Council has performed from July to

01:47:50.480 --> 01:47:51.376
December

01:47:51.400 --> 01:47:53.496
2024 with regard to the customer

01:47:53.520 --> 01:47:55.776
experience now C council is always

01:47:55.800 --> 01:47:57.575
working to improve its customer

01:47:57.599 --> 01:48:00.536
experience  looking at time frames for

01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:03.056
customer requests to be resolved staff

01:48:03.080 --> 01:48:04.536
training enhancing channels for

01:48:04.560 --> 01:48:05.936
customers to Lodge their service

01:48:05.960 --> 01:48:08.336
requests and lots of others I think the

01:48:08.360 --> 01:48:10.816
data demonstrates that customers receive

01:48:10.840 --> 01:48:12.776
consistent service complaints are

01:48:12.800 --> 01:48:15.056
managed equitably and tasks are

01:48:15.080 --> 01:48:17.416
completed with a designated time frames

01:48:17.440 --> 01:48:19.896
we need to put this in context when we

01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:22.776
say there were 53 complaints received

01:48:22.800 --> 01:48:24.856
there were

01:48:24.880 --> 01:48:27.880
18,43 customer requests lodged that's a

01:48:28.360 --> 01:48:30.976
lot of customer requests and yes we can

01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:33.896
do better but we can always do better

01:48:33.920 --> 01:48:36.655
but I think personally our council is

01:48:36.679 --> 01:48:39.336
doing a good job and there are some

01:48:39.360 --> 01:48:42.360
minor reductions  from prior years I

01:48:42.440 --> 01:48:44.856
agree and we need to reflect on those

01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:46.976
and understand what's happened why there

01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:48.776
are these changes and always look to

01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:50.736
improve the services that we

01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:53.016
deliver but I think we should also be

01:48:53.040 --> 01:48:53.976
proud

01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:57.000
18,144 customer requests were lodged 

01:48:57.840 --> 01:49:00.840
and 15% of customer inquiries resolved

01:49:01.719 --> 01:49:03.575
at the first point of contact so of

01:49:03.599 --> 01:49:05.376
those when they lodged their request it

01:49:05.400 --> 01:49:07.456
was resolved straight away the average

01:49:07.480 --> 01:49:09.376
time that a call is answered is 18

01:49:09.400 --> 01:49:11.135
seconds I would think that that

01:49:11.159 --> 01:49:14.159
demonstrates a responsive Council  and

01:49:15.320 --> 01:49:17.376
I think it's interesting once again as I

01:49:17.400 --> 01:49:19.655
said I do love the data when we look at

01:49:19.679 --> 01:49:22.679
how our customer requests are lodged we

01:49:22.760 --> 01:49:24.456
still have a lot of customer requests

01:49:24.480 --> 01:49:25.976
being lodged by the phone which is

01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:27.416
really interesting

01:49:27.440 --> 01:49:30.440
8,48 of these were lodged over the phone

01:49:30.719 --> 01:49:32.896
I thought that our online portal  you

01:49:32.920 --> 01:49:34.256
know where you can hop onto the website

01:49:34.280 --> 01:49:35.776
and logic Crest was the easiest and

01:49:35.800 --> 01:49:37.256
quickest way but maybe that's a

01:49:37.280 --> 01:49:40.280
generational thing cuz only 4

01:49:41.239 --> 01:49:44.239
4,775 of them were lodged by  the

01:49:44.760 --> 01:49:46.376
online means and there's other ways that

01:49:46.400 --> 01:49:49.400
they've come to us  so I think Council

01:49:50.679 --> 01:49:52.256
Barker has touched on a few things

01:49:52.280 --> 01:49:54.896
around  the percentages of customer

01:49:54.920 --> 01:49:57.095
requests completed on time and the like

01:49:57.119 --> 01:49:59.376
what I know anecdotally when I'm driving

01:49:59.400 --> 01:50:02.296
around other shes when I'm and and on

01:50:02.320 --> 01:50:04.416
different country roads and the like I

01:50:04.440 --> 01:50:06.056
love it when I get back into the Sur

01:50:06.080 --> 01:50:08.776
Coast shy jurisdiction because in

01:50:08.800 --> 01:50:10.296
comparison to the other Regional

01:50:10.320 --> 01:50:12.256
councils I think our council is doing an

01:50:12.280 --> 01:50:14.856
amazing job of maintaining its assets

01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:16.856
and we need to V look at this within the

01:50:16.880 --> 01:50:18.536
lens of what local government can

01:50:18.560 --> 01:50:20.496
actually do as a Regional Council and

01:50:20.520 --> 01:50:23.416
the budget that we actually have  so

01:50:23.440 --> 01:50:25.776
 it can always be better but I think

01:50:25.800 --> 01:50:27.575
our council is doing a pretty good job

01:50:27.599 --> 01:50:29.896
 at trying to make the M best of what

01:50:29.920 --> 01:50:32.920
we have within our budget thank you

01:50:33.119 --> 01:50:34.896
thanks councelor Patterson do we have

01:50:34.920 --> 01:50:37.920
any other speakers Council Phelps I just

01:50:38.360 --> 01:50:40.376
like to make a comment that  just

01:50:40.400 --> 01:50:41.976
looking at a couple of scores in

01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:44.135
particular the customer experience score

01:50:44.159 --> 01:50:46.896
of 7.3 out of 10 and a net promoter

01:50:46.920 --> 01:50:49.920
score of plus 79 out of 100 those are

01:50:49.960 --> 01:50:51.695
numbers that any organization would be

01:50:51.719 --> 01:50:53.496
and should be proud of their their good

01:50:53.520 --> 01:50:55.456
numbers  so I'd just like to make a

01:50:55.480 --> 01:50:57.816
note of that  although the customer

01:50:57.840 --> 01:51:00.055
experience score has dropped in the last

01:51:00.079 --> 01:51:02.655
 couple of periods here  it would be

01:51:02.679 --> 01:51:04.215
well worth investigating what's going on

01:51:04.239 --> 01:51:06.016
there but all the same they're still

01:51:06.040 --> 01:51:07.416
good numbers and we should be proud of

01:51:07.440 --> 01:51:09.776
them thanks councelor Phelps do we have

01:51:09.800 --> 01:51:11.736
any other councilors who wish to speak

01:51:11.760 --> 01:51:12.896
to this

01:51:12.920 --> 01:51:15.496
item no thank you so councelor Barker do

01:51:15.520 --> 01:51:17.416
you have any closing comments no thanks

01:51:17.440 --> 01:51:18.976
thanks councilors we put that to the

01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:22.000
vote all in favor

01:51:23.079 --> 01:51:26.079
thanks councilors and against thank you

01:51:26.239 --> 01:51:29.239
so that motion is carried

01:51:30.599 --> 01:51:33.095
71 item

01:51:33.119 --> 01:51:35.736
4.7 positive aging advisory committee

01:51:35.760 --> 01:51:37.776
member appointments the purpose of this

01:51:37.800 --> 01:51:39.736
report is for Council to consider

01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:41.615
appointing four new members to the

01:51:41.639 --> 01:51:43.976
positive aging advisory committee we

01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:45.816
have a recommendation does anyone wish

01:51:45.840 --> 01:51:48.456
to move a motion Council Phelps thank

01:51:48.480 --> 01:51:50.336
you is that as per the recommendation as

01:51:50.360 --> 01:51:52.695
theend thanks Council Phelps do we have

01:51:52.719 --> 01:51:55.719
a second up  councelor Barker thanks

01:51:56.440 --> 01:51:57.336
councelor

01:51:57.360 --> 01:51:59.575
Phelps  thank you Mayor  the

01:51:59.599 --> 01:52:01.816
positive aging advisory committee

01:52:01.840 --> 01:52:03.655
provides valuable two-way communication

01:52:03.679 --> 01:52:05.575
between our growing demographic and

01:52:05.599 --> 01:52:07.736
Council having attended two committee

01:52:07.760 --> 01:52:10.175
meetings already  I am the designated

01:52:10.199 --> 01:52:13.199
 counselor for that that committee 

01:52:13.280 --> 01:52:16.215
and I'm also the oldest  counselor on

01:52:16.239 --> 01:52:18.695
on the council I can also say that the I

01:52:18.719 --> 01:52:20.135
can say that the volunteer members are

01:52:20.159 --> 01:52:21.976
engaged and positive and they're making

01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:23.736
a genuine contribution it's been great

01:52:23.760 --> 01:52:25.615
hearing from them I would like to

01:52:25.639 --> 01:52:28.016
congratulate Harry Joy K and Katherine

01:52:28.040 --> 01:52:30.215
for volunteering their time experience

01:52:30.239 --> 01:52:32.976
and brain power and welcome you aboard I

01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:34.456
look forward to hearing from you all and

01:52:34.480 --> 01:52:36.536
all committee members on how Surf  Coy

01:52:36.560 --> 01:52:38.816
can continue to improve how everyone in

01:52:38.840 --> 01:52:41.376
our community is equitably included

01:52:41.400 --> 01:52:43.936
thank you thank you councilor Barker

01:52:43.960 --> 01:52:46.055
thanks I'll be very brief the committee

01:52:46.079 --> 01:52:47.615
had five vacancies and received seven

01:52:47.639 --> 01:52:49.615
applications yet we're still left with

01:52:49.639 --> 01:52:51.976
unfill one unfilled spot are the people

01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:53.936
aren't seeing value in this committee or

01:52:53.960 --> 01:52:55.655
the council's method of advertising

01:52:55.679 --> 01:52:57.736
aren't working I'd rather have more

01:52:57.760 --> 01:53:00.736
hands on deck that aren't quite right 

01:53:00.760 --> 01:53:02.536
than leaving it up to less people I'll

01:53:02.560 --> 01:53:04.095
support support the recommendation even

01:53:04.119 --> 01:53:05.536
though I don't fully like

01:53:05.560 --> 01:53:07.976
it thanks councelor Barker do any other

01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:10.575
counselors wish to speak to this

01:53:10.599 --> 01:53:13.496
motion no and are there any closing

01:53:13.520 --> 01:53:15.856
comments councilor Phelps No thank you

01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:18.880
we'll put that motion to a vote all in

01:53:19.440 --> 01:53:21.695
favor thanks that motion is carried

01:53:21.719 --> 01:53:24.719
unanimously

01:53:24.880 --> 01:53:27.776
4.8 project budget adjustments and cash

01:53:27.800 --> 01:53:30.800
Reserve transfers March 2025 this report

01:53:31.119 --> 01:53:33.776
contains proposed budget project budget

01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:35.736
adjustments and cash Reserve transfers

01:53:35.760 --> 01:53:38.615
for Council approval the report presents

01:53:38.639 --> 01:53:41.095
adjustments including existing projects

01:53:41.119 --> 01:53:43.816
requiring adjustment project closures

01:53:43.840 --> 01:53:46.175
new projects to be initiated chief

01:53:46.199 --> 01:53:48.175
executive officer approved transfers

01:53:48.199 --> 01:53:51.055
under delegation or corrections to Prior

01:53:51.079 --> 01:53:53.655
reports presented to council we have a

01:53:53.679 --> 01:53:56.679
recommendation do we have a

01:53:56.719 --> 01:53:59.456
motion Council Stapleton is it as per

01:53:59.480 --> 01:54:02.480
the recommendation thank you and a

01:54:04.400 --> 01:54:07.400
seconder  councelor Shan Felder thank

01:54:07.440 --> 01:54:09.816
you councilor stabon would you like to

01:54:09.840 --> 01:54:11.655
speak to this thanks Mayor  the

01:54:11.679 --> 01:54:13.856
intention of this report is to provide

01:54:13.880 --> 01:54:16.496
transparency on new projects closed

01:54:16.520 --> 01:54:18.416
projects  identifying where the

01:54:18.440 --> 01:54:20.896
funding is coming from and showing any

01:54:20.920 --> 01:54:23.055
movement of funds for projects such as

01:54:23.079 --> 01:54:25.736
grants being received or any additional

01:54:25.760 --> 01:54:27.655
funds that are required from or being

01:54:27.679 --> 01:54:30.376
returned to different 

01:54:30.400 --> 01:54:33.055
reserves  one just one new project I'd

01:54:33.079 --> 01:54:34.776
like to draw attention to on the table

01:54:34.800 --> 01:54:37.336
is a review into speed limits in some of

01:54:37.360 --> 01:54:39.695
our Coastal townships including angle SE

01:54:39.719 --> 01:54:42.655
areas Inlet Fair Haven and mogs Creek 

01:54:42.679 --> 01:54:44.175
this project is funded by state

01:54:44.199 --> 01:54:46.376
government grant as part of a program to

01:54:46.400 --> 01:54:48.776
improve Road Safety in Regional

01:54:48.800 --> 01:54:50.936
communities not just for drivers but for

01:54:50.960 --> 01:54:53.960
all Road users including cyclists and

01:54:54.800 --> 01:54:57.615
pedestrians  given the lack of

01:54:57.639 --> 01:55:00.016
pathways on local streets in parts of

01:55:00.040 --> 01:55:01.896
these communities the road serves as a

01:55:01.920 --> 01:55:04.920
shared pathway of sort so in areas Inlet

01:55:05.040 --> 01:55:07.215
for example I often see Walkers parents

01:55:07.239 --> 01:55:10.239
with prams kids on bikes dogs and horses

01:55:10.280 --> 01:55:12.456
all sharing the road with

01:55:12.480 --> 01:55:15.376
cars Council  not surprisingly has

01:55:15.400 --> 01:55:17.215
received multiple request from community

01:55:17.239 --> 01:55:20.239
over many years seeking speed reductions

01:55:20.320 --> 01:55:22.336
 due to this shared nature of the road

01:55:22.360 --> 01:55:24.336
road to help make some of these roads

01:55:24.360 --> 01:55:26.655
safer and more user friendly for

01:55:26.679 --> 01:55:29.376
all the review is to take place in

01:55:29.400 --> 01:55:31.016
coming months and we'll consider the

01:55:31.040 --> 01:55:33.215
retention of existing speed limits for

01:55:33.239 --> 01:55:35.816
each area or the potential to reduce the

01:55:35.840 --> 01:55:38.840
speed to an areawide limit of 40 km or

01:55:39.639 --> 01:55:42.639
30 km per hour so I encourage 

01:55:42.960 --> 01:55:45.655
Community to  stay engaged with the

01:55:45.679 --> 01:55:48.679
review  provide their feedback and 

01:55:48.800 --> 01:55:50.016
hopefully we can ensure that all

01:55:50.040 --> 01:55:51.776
perspectives are are heard and

01:55:51.800 --> 01:55:54.095
considered alongside with any relevant

01:55:54.119 --> 01:55:56.135
technical data collected through the

01:55:56.159 --> 01:55:58.296
review process and I'll leave it there

01:55:58.320 --> 01:56:01.320
thanks Mayor thank you councelor Shan

01:56:01.400 --> 01:56:04.400
Felder I just like to say very quickly

01:56:04.920 --> 01:56:06.736
 just reflecting on the comments of

01:56:06.760 --> 01:56:09.536
counselor stabon in relation to horses

01:56:09.560 --> 01:56:12.416
being on a on a roadway or any

01:56:12.440 --> 01:56:14.655
thoroughfare horses actually have right

01:56:14.679 --> 01:56:17.016
of way and there are people who are

01:56:17.040 --> 01:56:18.536
unaware of that so I just like to

01:56:18.560 --> 01:56:20.816
reiterate that if you do come across

01:56:20.840 --> 01:56:23.055
someone riding a horse they have right

01:56:23.079 --> 01:56:26.016
of way on the on the roadway but I do

01:56:26.040 --> 01:56:28.095
sympathize with the sentiments expressed

01:56:28.119 --> 01:56:31.119
by Council stap Stapleton about the road

01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:34.175
limits and that being reviewed and

01:56:34.199 --> 01:56:37.199
safety is so important thank you thanks

01:56:37.760 --> 01:56:39.095
cancel Shan Felder do any other

01:56:39.119 --> 01:56:40.856
councilors wish to speak to this motion

01:56:40.880 --> 01:56:43.496
councelor Barker thanks  here we go

01:56:43.520 --> 01:56:44.575
again another round of budget

01:56:44.599 --> 01:56:47.599
adjustments and rever  reever Reserve

01:56:48.360 --> 01:56:50.376
transfers  because sticking to an

01:56:50.400 --> 01:56:53.400
original budget is just too much to ask

01:56:53.679 --> 01:56:55.896
now while there's been some returns 

01:56:55.920 --> 01:56:58.336
the report includes over $250,000 in new

01:56:58.360 --> 01:57:00.695
project allocations covering everything

01:57:00.719 --> 01:57:02.336
from speed limit reviews to operating

01:57:02.360 --> 01:57:04.655
Frameworks for development contribution

01:57:04.679 --> 01:57:07.256
plans because apparently we need more

01:57:07.280 --> 01:57:09.976
Frameworks to shuffle money around let's

01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:11.575
talk about those speed limit changes

01:57:11.599 --> 01:57:14.175
over $150,000 in state government grants

01:57:14.199 --> 01:57:16.296
just to review speed limits not to

01:57:16.320 --> 01:57:18.976
implement them just to look at them now

01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:21.055
I'd love to see the cost breakdown are

01:57:21.079 --> 01:57:23.016
we H hiring Consultants to sit in the

01:57:23.040 --> 01:57:25.936
room and debate whether 40 km hour is

01:57:25.960 --> 01:57:28.896
better than 50 km even better how about

01:57:28.920 --> 01:57:31.496
30 km an hour don't laugh we're heading

01:57:31.520 --> 01:57:32.215
that

01:57:32.239 --> 01:57:35.239
way roads are risky we need to manage

01:57:35.280 --> 01:57:38.280
risk best we can and that's paying

01:57:38.760 --> 01:57:40.896
attention then we've got grandf funded

01:57:40.920 --> 01:57:42.695
projects The Cheeky cost shift where

01:57:42.719 --> 01:57:44.536
state government funds us to manage

01:57:44.560 --> 01:57:46.215
projects while at the same time

01:57:46.239 --> 01:57:48.376
compelling us to undertake other actions

01:57:48.400 --> 01:57:49.856
at our own

01:57:49.880 --> 01:57:52.880
cost I oppose this report

01:57:53.520 --> 01:57:55.776
instead of reallocating funds to more

01:57:55.800 --> 01:57:57.575
red tape Council should be cutting

01:57:57.599 --> 01:57:59.135
unnecessary

01:57:59.159 --> 01:58:01.936
spending reducing reserves through rate

01:58:01.960 --> 01:58:04.416
reductions and Outsourcing projects to

01:58:04.440 --> 01:58:06.575
the private sector without the

01:58:06.599 --> 01:58:08.695
constraints that Council imposes

01:58:08.719 --> 01:58:10.376
wherever

01:58:10.400 --> 01:58:12.776
possible thanks councilor Barker do any

01:58:12.800 --> 01:58:15.800
other councilors wish to speak to this

01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:18.856
motion no thank you so I invite

01:58:18.880 --> 01:58:20.536
councelor Stapleton to offer closing

01:58:20.560 --> 01:58:22.496
comments I'll just  make make one

01:58:22.520 --> 01:58:25.520
point that the  speed limit review 

01:58:27.079 --> 01:58:29.496
isn't just about consultation it's also

01:58:29.520 --> 01:58:32.520
about the installation of speed limit 

01:58:32.639 --> 01:58:34.776
signs where they're being reduced to 40

01:58:34.800 --> 01:58:37.496
or 30 km an hour so I imagine some of

01:58:37.520 --> 01:58:40.520
the  expenses involved in that as well

01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:42.856
thank you councelor Stapleton we'll now

01:58:42.880 --> 01:58:45.880
put that motion to a vote all in

01:58:46.440 --> 01:58:49.440
favor thanks and against thank you

01:58:50.119 --> 01:58:53.119
counselors that is carried 71

01:58:53.440 --> 01:58:56.440
we now move I note that it's 8:00  I

01:58:56.560 --> 01:58:57.976
propose that we keep going through the

01:58:58.000 --> 01:58:59.376
next couple of

01:58:59.400 --> 01:59:02.400
items 4.9 counselor expenses and

01:59:03.040 --> 01:59:04.856
attendance at meetings October to

01:59:04.880 --> 01:59:07.880
December 2024 the purpose of this report

01:59:08.079 --> 01:59:10.496
is to present the councilor allowances

01:59:10.520 --> 01:59:13.456
expenses and attendance at meetings for

01:59:13.480 --> 01:59:16.135
the December 2024 quarter we have a

01:59:16.159 --> 01:59:18.575
recommendation do we have a motion

01:59:18.599 --> 01:59:20.655
councilor Shan Felder is had as per the

01:59:20.679 --> 01:59:22.655
recommendation thank you and seconded by

01:59:22.679 --> 01:59:25.456
councelor Phelps councelor Shan Felder

01:59:25.480 --> 01:59:28.480
this item is very  well  docented

01:59:30.760 --> 01:59:33.536
and self-explanatory and it shows that

01:59:33.560 --> 01:59:36.560
we are a an organization that

01:59:37.920 --> 01:59:40.920
 displays the expenses that we have

01:59:41.639 --> 01:59:44.639
incurred and  showing

01:59:44.880 --> 01:59:47.880
transparency and  Mayor I am a Madonna

01:59:48.239 --> 01:59:49.856
fan and you're probably thinking what on

01:59:49.880 --> 01:59:51.376
Earth does Madonna have to do with

01:59:51.400 --> 01:59:54.016
counselor dispensers well we live in a

01:59:54.040 --> 01:59:56.416
democracy and a lyric from one of her

01:59:56.440 --> 01:59:59.440
songs is some things cannot be bought

02:00:00.159 --> 02:00:02.536
and I actually agree with that sentiment

02:00:02.560 --> 02:00:04.856
thank you Mayor thank you councelor Shan

02:00:04.880 --> 02:00:07.536
Felder councelor Phelps as as mentioned

02:00:07.560 --> 02:00:09.095
by councelor Shan Felder this is a

02:00:09.119 --> 02:00:10.896
quarterly quarterly report that is

02:00:10.920 --> 02:00:12.655
important for counselor transparency

02:00:12.679 --> 02:00:15.296
purposes it details what M what meetings

02:00:15.320 --> 02:00:17.175
councilors were able to attend and it

02:00:17.199 --> 02:00:18.816
details the counselor expenses for the

02:00:18.840 --> 02:00:21.095
period including allowance mileage

02:00:21.119 --> 02:00:23.055
professional development attendance at

02:00:23.079 --> 02:00:25.016
events and ongoing expenses such as

02:00:25.040 --> 02:00:27.376
phone and laptop rate payers have full

02:00:27.400 --> 02:00:29.336
visibility of what's being paid for a

02:00:29.360 --> 02:00:31.655
measure of transparency that I fully

02:00:31.679 --> 02:00:34.055
support thanks councelor Phelps do any

02:00:34.079 --> 02:00:36.055
other councilors wish to speak to

02:00:36.079 --> 02:00:38.816
this no and any closing comments councel

02:00:38.840 --> 02:00:40.615
Shan no thank you we'll put it to the

02:00:40.639 --> 02:00:42.135
vote all in

02:00:42.159 --> 02:00:45.159
favor thanks councilors that's carried

02:00:45.599 --> 02:00:48.599
unanimously the next item is 4.10

02:00:49.159 --> 02:00:51.055
conflict of interest records the purpose

02:00:51.079 --> 02:00:53.215
of this report is to present conflict of

02:00:53.239 --> 02:00:55.456
interest records received since the

02:00:55.480 --> 02:00:57.416
previous council meeting we have a

02:00:57.440 --> 02:00:59.496
recommendation do we have a motion

02:00:59.520 --> 02:01:01.456
Council Barker as the recommendation thank

02:01:01.480 --> 02:01:02.936
you a

02:01:02.960 --> 02:01:05.536
seconder councelor Shan Felder thanks

02:01:05.560 --> 02:01:08.376
councelor Barker  no thanks okay

02:01:08.400 --> 02:01:10.936
councelor Shan Felder no thank you thank

02:01:10.960 --> 02:01:13.135
you any other counselors wish to speak

02:01:13.159 --> 02:01:15.856
to this no thank you we'll now put it to

02:01:15.880 --> 02:01:17.376
a vote all in

02:01:17.400 --> 02:01:20.400
favor thanks that's carried

02:01:20.560 --> 02:01:23.016
unanimously and

02:01:23.040 --> 02:01:25.296
that brings us to the end of our open

02:01:25.320 --> 02:01:27.615
meeting thank you councilors and thanks

02:01:27.639 --> 02:01:30.416
to remaining members of the public

02:01:30.440 --> 02:01:33.440
Alex  we now close the meeting to the

02:01:35.159 --> 02:01:37.856
public as we have a confidential council

02:01:37.880 --> 02:01:39.655
meeting coming

02:01:39.679 --> 02:01:42.336
up so thanks councilors we'll just take

02:01:42.360 --> 02:01:44.135
a little pause while we rearrange where

02:01:44.159 --> 02:01:46.976
would anybody like to propose well we we

02:01:47.000 --> 02:01:48.416
don't we're in between meetings we don't

02:01:48.440 --> 02:01:50.695
need a motion do we to have a break are

02:01:50.719 --> 02:01:53.719
we move to okay suspend standing orders

02:01:54.719 --> 02:01:57.135
motion  moved by

02:01:57.159 --> 02:01:59.496
councilor staple turn and seconded by

02:01:59.520 --> 02:02:02.520
Council Sean Felder all in

02:02:02.840 --> 02:02:05.536
favor thank you so we're suspending

02:02:05.560 --> 02:02:07.615
standing orders for 10 minutes for a

02:02:07.639 --> 02:02:10.639
break be back at 8:15