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MAYOR PATTISON: Good evening, everybody,
and welcome to the July Council meeting.

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I&amp;apos;m Mayor Liz Pattison and it&amp;apos;s a pleasure
to welcome members of the community

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into the Chambers tonight.

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This meeting is also being live streamed,
so a big welcome to those tuning

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in online, and of course welcome
to my fellow Councillors,

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including Councillor Schonfelder,
Councillor Hodge

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and Councillor Wellington,
who will be joining us online tonight.

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Live captioning
will accompany the live stream

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of the meeting
and we hope that this assists those

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who may have hearing difficulties.

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The Surf Coast Shire local government area
spans the traditional lands

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of the Wadawurrung people and the Gulidjan
and Gadubanud peoples of the Maar Nation.

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I would like to acknowledge that here
in Torquay in the main Council office

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we are gathered on Wadawurrung country.

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I pay my respects to Elders past,
present and emerging.

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The Wadawurrung people have nurtured
and protected these lands and waterways

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for thousands of generations
and I am so grateful for the opportunity

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to live and work in such a beautiful part
of the world.

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We also wish
to acknowledge the traditional owners

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of the lands on which each of you
is attending

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and acknowledge any Aboriginal people
who are viewing the meeting tonight.

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We have a really exciting annual event
happening in our region soon

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with the Surf Coast Arts Trail taking
place on Saturday, the 5th and 6th

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of August.

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Since its inception 12 years ago,
the Arts Trail has become a key feature

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of our events calendar,
showcasing the creativity and talent

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of artists living
and working in the Surf Coast Shire.

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A bigger and better Arts Trail than ever
is planned for this year,

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with art lovers once again able
to visit art studios and galleries

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in person.

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I&amp;apos;m really looking forward to heading out
and having a look.

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There will be more than 200 artists
and 58 venues

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will be offering a diverse range
of art forms, including painting,

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glassware, ceramics, jewellery,
sculpture and textiles.

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For more information on the Arts Trail,
you can visit our website or contact our

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friendly customer service team.

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In other exciting news,
it was announced last week that

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the 2025 UCI Gran Fondo World
Championships cycling event

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will be coming to Lorne.

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I&amp;apos;m really pleased that the Surf Coast
continues

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to attract international sporting events
which create great tourism opportunities

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for our region.

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There&amp;apos;s about 3,200 participants
and crew expected to come to the event

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as well as spectators from
across the globe.

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So that&amp;apos;s some exciting things
that are happening in our shire

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and now the exciting Council meeting.

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We&amp;apos;ll get on to the agenda.

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So there&amp;apos;s a few process things
that I&amp;apos;ll go through.

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Council meetings operate in accordance
to our Governance Rules,

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which include the following procedures.

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During the meeting, the mover
of a motion or an amendment may speak

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for a maximum of 5 minutes
to open the debate

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and then a further 2 minutes
to make a closing statement.

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Any other Councillor,
including the seconder, may speak

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to a motion for no more than 3 minutes.

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I ask that members
of the gallery avoid using mobile phones

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during the meeting as this can distract
the Councillors as well as other members

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of the gallery.

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I also note that any unauthorised
recording of the meeting is prohibited

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under our Governance Rules.

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However, you can access a copy
of the official recording on our website

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after the meeting.

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I will now recite the pledge as a sign
of our commitment:

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&amp;quot;As Councillors we carry
out our responsibilities with diligence

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and integrity and make fair decisions
of lasting value for the wellbeing

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of our community and environment.&amp;quot;

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And do we have any apologies
for tonight&amp;apos;s meeting?

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No.

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Confirmation of minutes

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- can I please have a mover and a seconder
to confirm the minutes

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from the Council meeting on Tuesday,
the 27th of June 2023

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- CR ALLEN: No, I wasn&amp;apos;t there, sorry.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Oh, you weren&amp;apos;t there

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- for the Council meeting held on Tuesday,
the 27th of June 2023

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and the Special Council Meeting
for Hearing of Submissions on the 4th

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of July from those in attendance

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- moved Councillor Gazzard and seconded
by Councillor Bodsworth.

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All those in favour.

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And the motion is carried unanimously.

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Do we have any leave of absence requests?

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No?

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Declaration of conflicts of interest.

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If a Councillor or an officer has
a conflict of interest,

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they must declare it now
and do so again just prior

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to the item being discussed.

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Do we have any conflicts of interest?

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No.

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We have a couple of presentations
from our Councillors.

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Councillor Allen.

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CR ALLEN: Thanks, Mayor.

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I&amp;apos;ve got two presentations, if I may.

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Sadly, due to the aftermath
of contracting COVID, I was absent

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at the June Council meeting,
when I had intended to speak

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about the dinner held
at the Stribling Pavilion

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to celebrate the 10th anniversary
of the Lorne Men&amp;apos;s Shed.

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The occasion was recognised
by other Councillors

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at last month&amp;apos;s meeting.

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I wish to pay tribute
to the then President, Allan Walls,

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key committee members Garry Fenton
and Don Baldwin, who along

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with many others worked tirelessly
to make the shed a reality and when faced

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at the time with very strong opposition,
they conducted themselves with dignity,

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focusing on the outcome,
responding when required

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with not an angry word, an example that
is relevant at most times and

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in most settings.

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Allan Walls was recognised at the dinner
with a life membership by the Shedders,

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one so richly deserved for his strength,
leadership and determination,

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applying his considerable business
and administration skills to the task

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of making Lorne Men&amp;apos;s Shed a reality.

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It thrives, contributing significantly
to our community and to the health

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of its members and their families.

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Allan has always expressed his gratitude
to the officers, led by Mr Chris Pike,

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to the then Mayor, Margot Smith,
and current Councillor Rose Hodge

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and particularly to ex-Councillor
Clive Goldsworthy, who absorbed a lot

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of the pressure at the Council
and in the community

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during the development
and approval stages.

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I support this recognition and thanks
to the officers and Councillors.

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Secondly, on Saturday,
the Lorne Community Connect had

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the privilege
of hosting the Anglesea players stage 2

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very powerful performances of Shadows
of Angels, written by a local playwright,

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the play that they will be taking
to the Edinburgh Fringe Festival later

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this year, a wonderful achievement.

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They are fundraising to support their trip
and the Lorne Community Connect was

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delighted to make a substantial donation.

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I note that the G21 Draft Regional
Football Strategy is

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on the agenda tonight.

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I look forward to the formulation
and release

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of a G21 regional arts strategy
incorporating performance

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support and development.

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Thank you.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you,
Councillor Allen.

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And we also have a presentation
from Councillor Bodsworth.

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CR BODSWORTH: Thanks, Mayor.

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I&amp;apos;d like to offer a brief presentation
on the Anglesea Community House value

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report which was delivered recently.

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So every year
all funded neighbourhood houses must

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provide information about their activity
and usage

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to the department via data submitted
to the peak body

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of Neighbourhood Houses Victoria.

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This year the data has been collated
into a community value report

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for each community house.

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With regard to Anglesea Community House,
on an income of $305,000,

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the Anglesea Community House returned
a value to the community of close

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to $2.4 million.

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The community value equates to $7.88
for each $1 of income.

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It equates to $26.44 for every $1
of Neighbourhood House coordination

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program funding and around $1,000
for every hour that the Neighbourhood

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House is in use.

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It also includes around $1 million worth
of volunteering value.

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So I&amp;apos;d just like
to congratulate Anglesea Community House,

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the committee, the staff and all
of the volunteers who were involved

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in delivering that fantastic result.

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Thank you.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

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That is the end of our presentations.

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We&amp;apos;ve not received any submissions
for this meeting, so we&amp;apos;ll move on

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to our public question time.

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Members of the public who wish
to ask a question to Council are able

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to submit their written question
in accordance with our Governance Rules

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and we&amp;apos;ve had 9 community members submit
questions and we have 18 in total tonight.

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If you are here to read
out your questions,

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I request that you keep any preamble
brief, in the interests of time,

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because there are 19 of them to get
through and we&amp;apos;ve received a lot

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of questions tonight.

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I will not be reading the preamble
if I am reading questions out

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on someone&amp;apos;s behalf who hasn&amp;apos;t come in
and this will enable us

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to get more questions in.

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We normally allocate
around half an hour to questions,

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but I really hope we&amp;apos;ll move through
and be able

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to address everybody&amp;apos;s questions tonight.

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And all of the questions
and the full preamble, and the like,

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that people have put
through have been provided

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to Councillors prior,
so all the Councillors have the

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full information that has been provided
from the public.

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So we will now get into those questions.

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Mira White, did you want to

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- are you here and did you want
to do your own question?

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No?

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Alright, I&amp;apos;ll read
out Mira&amp;apos;s question then for her.

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&amp;quot;Could you please provide an update as
to the progress

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against works or plans in the
past six months for the Department

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of Transport and Council to progress works
for pathways and a crossing

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at the Great Ocean
Road/Strathmore Drive intersection,

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including progress
of the engineering improvement options?&amp;quot;

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So I&amp;apos;ll pass that over to our CEO.

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This is an operational matter in relation
to the crossing.

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I also did want to point out for Mira,
Mira provided two questions to us

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for the last Council meeting,
but it was agreed that we would postpone

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them to this meeting.

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So Mira will actually have four questions
for this Council meeting and I&amp;apos;ll pass it

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over to our CEO.

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MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Thank you, Mayor.

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Thanks for your question, Mira,
and thank you for agreeing to hold

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over your questions
from last month&amp;apos;s meeting.

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I understand that we wrote
to you in the week following last month&amp;apos;s

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meeting and the information I&amp;apos;ll provide
tonight is consistent

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with that correspondence.

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The Department of Transport
and Planning has advised that a pedestrian

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crossing improvement project
at the Great Ocean Road/Strathmore Drive

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intersection is still being considered
for funding in a number

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of road project funding.

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Whilst the project does not currently
have funding committed,

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DTP staff have conveyed to us that
they understand the importance

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of this project for safe access
to schools.

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Pedestrian priority projects
across the state arterial road network are

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prioritised using prescriptive criteria,
including pedestrian

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and traffic volume data, crash data
and other relevant data.

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Council continues to advocate on behalf
of the community

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for road safety improvements
at this location

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and we would encourage community members
to continue drawing the Government&amp;apos;s

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attention to this issue as well.

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With regards to pathways in the area

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- are you happy for me to continue?

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MAYOR PATTISON: Yes.

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MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: With regards
to pathways in the area, Council

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is currently in the detailed design stage
for pathway improvements

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from Christian College to Bellbrae
along the Old Great Ocean Road track,

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with construction estimated to commence
at the end of 2023.

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Council will be developing design plans
for a pathway extension

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on the Great Ocean Road
from Christian College

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to Duffields Road/Sibelius intersection
in the next 12 months.

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We will then proceed to construction
as soon as we&amp;apos;re able

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to secure the necessary funding for this.

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In relation to the pathway
on the Strathmore Drive side

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of Great Ocean Road, Council
will consider this

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for funding in the future once
the location for the crossing

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of the Great Ocean Road is confirmed
by DTP.

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Council will be engaging
with the community

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on our social infrastructure plan
later this year,

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which includes the consideration
of future pathway connections

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and I encourage
all community members interested in this

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to make a submission regarding the pathway
at this time.

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MAYOR PATTISON: And Mira&amp;apos;s second question
: &amp;quot;What recent contact has occurred

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under Safe Routes to School
between Council, DOT and CCG&amp;quot;,

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which is Christian College Geelong

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- &amp;quot;to ensure the school&amp;apos;s planning
obligations are met and safe passage

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to school is secured for students?

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MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: In January 2022,
Council gained approval

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for the installation of the current zone
on the Great Ocean Road

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with a static speed sign in place.

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We recently requested an update from DTP
on the installation

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of electronic school zone signage,
which was part

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of the Christian College Geelong
original planning permit.

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They have told us that this work should
occur in conjunction

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with the pedestrian crossing improvement
works on the Great Ocean Road once they&amp;apos;ve

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secured funding for this project.

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Following this, Christian College
and Council can work together

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to submit a joint application
to the Safe Routes to School program,

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which will encourage safer active travel
to school

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and develop safer driver behaviour
patterns at school drop-off and pick-up.

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In the interim, officers are
in regular contact with Victoria Police

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and will continue
to recommend this location be

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monitored for compliance.

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I also note that you refer
to the installation of wombat crossings.

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Council officers are not aware
of discussions concerning this, however,

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wish to clarify that a wombat crossing
is a raised asphalt crossing similar

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to a speed hump
and would not be a treatment that DTP

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would consider for the Great Ocean Road.

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Lastly,
regarding the planning permit conditions

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placed on Christian College,
the original permit required Christian

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College to enter
into a section 173

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agreement regarding its long-term
access being via a future road constructed

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as part
of the proposed Spring Creek development.

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As this development
is now not expected to proceed,

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Council will re-engage with DTP
to discuss how this change impacts those

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original planning permit conditions
and any actions which may be

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required moving forward.

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But thank you for your advocacy
on this issue.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Another question
from Mira White

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- as the two previous questions were
submitted from last month, as we&amp;apos;ve talked

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about, there are two questions
for this month and the first question

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is Planning Permit Number 14/0374
and 17-0386, as I understand it,

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requires Christian College Geelong
to provide electronic verbal speed limit

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signs as part of the condition
of the permit.

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As Councillors responsible
for ensuring planning permit conditions

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are met, why hasn&amp;apos;t this been required
of the school in a timely manner?

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&amp;quot;MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Thanks, Mira,
and thank you for your questions

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regarding the permit obligations
for Christian College, particularly

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around the electronic variable speed limit
signs.

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The two relevant planning permits
do not explicitly require the installation

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of such signs,
but rather stipulate in the event

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additional mitigating traffic management
measures are required, the installation

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and costs must be covered
by the applicant.

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The planning permit does not include
conditions regarding the timing

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of such works.

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However, as I outlined before,
Council has been liaising

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with the Department of Transport
and Planning for information

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about its requirements as well
as the timing of these works.

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At this stage, there&amp;apos;s no grounds
for Council to pursue an enforcement order

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to VCAT and we&amp;apos;ll continue to work
with the department on this matter.

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MAYOR PATTISON: And sorry,
I should have read Mira&amp;apos;s questions

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together, so I&amp;apos;ll just read

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- the last question relates
to the enforcement component that our CEO

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has just referred to
and Mira&amp;apos;s second question was:

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&amp;quot;As Council, the school and the Department
of Transport have had nine years

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to consider how
to provide variable speed limit signs

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and any corresponding
pedestrian crossing infrastructure,

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will Council now apply to VCAT
for an order pursuant to S114 Planning

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and Environment Act
to ensure the conditions

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of the planning permit are met&amp;quot;

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and Robyn&amp;apos;s response
around enforcement related

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to that question.

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MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Apologies, Mayor.

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MAYOR PATTISON: No worries.

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We now move on to a question
from Alan Manson.

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Alan, are you

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- great.

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So if you wanted to read your questions
and then we can respond to them.

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Thanks, Alan.

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MR ALAN MANSON: Thank you.

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So my question 1 relates
to the gender neutral of the toilets

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and changeroom facilities
within the shire.

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My first question is I understand
from reading the minutes

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of Council meetings that Council says
they are obligated under federal

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and state laws
to accommodate transgender diversity

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toilet
and changeroom facilities in the shire.

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My question
is this: can the Mayor identify

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for me the exact sections
and subsections referred

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to in the various pieces
of legislation that specifically require

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local Councils
to reassign their public toilet

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and changeroom male and female facilities
to become gender neutral?

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Can the Mayor provide me
with a written copy of these requirements,

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please?

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Also, can the Mayor read these laws out
to those in the meeting so that

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the community can appreciate
the legislative obligations

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that Councillors are required to enforce?

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Thank you.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thanks for your question,
Alan.

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We&amp;apos;re discussing this and making decisions
on the Local Law tonight

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in our Council meeting
and therefore it&amp;apos;s appropriate for our CEO

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to respond to those questions,
so I&amp;apos;ll pass that to our CEO.

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MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Hi, Alan, and thank you

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- MR ALAN MANSON: Yeah, good, thank you.

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MS ROBYN SEYMOUR:-

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- for your question.

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We can refer you
to the relevant legislation,

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there&amp;apos;s no problems with that,
but firstly I just wanted

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to offer some clarification.

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You mentioned in your email that male
and female facilities will be reassigned

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as gender neutral.

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We&amp;apos;re not proposing to do that.

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The toilet signage will remain the same
and we will provide a range

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of male/female and all-gender options
across the shire.

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We&amp;apos;re proposing
to remove the fine which currently applies

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to individuals using the facility,
which is designed for a different gender

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- MR ALAN MANSON: Well, I understand that.

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I do understand that.

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MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: The specific legislation
we&amp;apos;re referring to

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is the federal Sex Discrimination Act
of 1984 and the Victorian Local Government

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Act of 2020.

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Firstly, section 72(a)
of the Local Government Act 2020 states

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that a local law must not be inconsistent
with any other Act.

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Our current Local Law does not comply
with this requirement

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as it contains a clause which
is inconsistent

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with the Sex Discrimination Act.

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The relevant sections are 5(b) and 5(c).

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These sections are quite lengthy,
so rather than reading them out verbatim,

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I&amp;apos;ll provide a summary.

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However,
you can access this legislation

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full online.

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MR ALAN MANSON: Okay.

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MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: In the summary,
the Sex Discrimination Act makes it

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unlawful to discriminate
against another person on the grounds

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of their gender identity or intersex
status.

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Many of Council&amp;apos;s local public toilets
only have male and female options.

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In this case, people who identify
as gender diverse, non-binary

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or transgender cannot lawfully access
toilets or facilities of their choice.

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Therefore,
they are treated less favourably than

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a person
from a different gender identity or

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a person who is not of intersex status.

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That&amp;apos;s the answer to your first question.

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MR ALAN MANSON: Oh, well, yeah, I&amp;apos;m aware
of all of that,

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but that isn&amp;apos;t really answering
the concerns that this has raised.

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Well, first of all, look,
I&amp;apos;m really interested in the law here.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Alan, we do have

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- if you wouldn&amp;apos;t mind sticking
to the questions because we&amp;apos;ve got 19

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to get through.

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MR ALAN MANSON: Yes, okay.

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Alright.

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Well, I&amp;apos;ll give you my second question
because it probably addresses everything.

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So the Victorian Equal Opportunity
and Human Rights Commission states

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on its website in relation
to the Victoria&amp;apos;s Human Rights Charter

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that, quote, &amp;quot;The charter enshrines civil,
political and cultural rights

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into Victorian law.

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Public authorities must observe those
rights.

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New policies
and legislation must also take

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into account human rights
and public authorities

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- for example, people working
for the Government

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- must also observe human rights so
that members

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of the community are not treated unfairly
&amp;quot;, unquote.

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In my email to Councillors last Friday,
I reminded you of two of these rights

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- namely, the right to privacy
in section 13 and the right

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to the protection of the family and
to children in section 17

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- that governing bodies such
as local councils are obligated

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to observe.

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My second question to you is this:
can the Mayor or someone else please

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explain that by Councillors voting yes
to the change in the law, on what basis

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is the privacy and the protection
under the Charter

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of Human Rights being afforded to women
and girls in the shire?

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thanks, Alan.

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MR ALAN MANSON: Thank you.

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MAYOR PATTISON: And I&amp;apos;ll pass that on
to our CEO.

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MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Thanks, Alan.

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So we&amp;apos;ve done extensive research
and benchmarking and found no evidence

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that removing the penalty associated
with the relevant clause in our Local Law

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will have any impact
on the privacy or safety

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of individuals who use our facilities.

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An audit of the other 78 councils shows
that 67 of these,

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or 86%, do not have a similar clause
prohibiting people of one gender

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from entering a facility designated
for another gender and there

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is no evidence to indicate a rise
in safety and privacy violations in the

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many places that already comply
with these legislative requirements.

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We know that people, including children,
suffer from discrimination and harm

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as a result of their gender identity
and the proposed change is seeking

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to address and mitigate this.

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It aims to protect affected families
and children

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from the associated discrimination
and harm.

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MR ALAN MANSON: Well,
I don&amp;apos;t think that that addresses

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my question really because this

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- MAYOR PATTISON: Thanks, Alan.

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It&amp;apos;s not a conversation

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- MR ALAN MANSON: Okay.

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MAYOR PATTISON:-

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-
and we do appreciate

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you presenting your question.

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We&amp;apos;ll now move on because we have some
other questions to follow up,

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but we appreciate you taking the time
to come in and raising your concerns and

00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:15.000
all of your correspondence was provided to
all the Councillors,

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so we appreciate that.

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SPEAKER: Excuse me, but as ratepayers,
aren&amp;apos;t we entitled to voice our opinions,

00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:22.000
thank you very much, without being cut
off?

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MAYOR PATTISON: So we&amp;apos;ve got a process
in our Governance Rules which dictates

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that.

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There are many opportunities.

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So under our Governance Rules we submit
questions, and so that&amp;apos;s the process

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that we&amp;apos;re following.

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There&amp;apos;s plenty of opportunities
to engage with Council.

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I have Meet your Mayor sessions monthly,
we all can be called, emailed

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and contacted, so there are plenty
of opportunities to engage.

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The process
of a Council meeting follows

00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:46.000
our Governance Rules.

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I&amp;apos;ll now move on to our next question.

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Sam Fernando, are you here
to ask your question?

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SPEAKER: (Inaudible).

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MAYOR PATTISON: I&amp;apos;ll leave you

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- if you&amp;apos;d like to remain in the gallery,
I&amp;apos;ll ask you to be quiet.

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Otherwise you&amp;apos;ll need to leave.

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We&amp;apos;ll be moving on with our next question.

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Sam Fernando, would you like
to be reading your question to us?

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SPEAKER: She can read it,
but I&amp;apos;m actually representing (inaudible).

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MAYOR PATTISON: Great.

00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:08.000
Thank you so much.

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I&amp;apos;d love you to come
and read your question.

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Thank you.

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SPEAKER: Sam can read it if you&amp;apos;d like.

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MAYOR PATTISON: No, no, I&amp;apos;d love you to.

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I think Sam has asked you to,
so that would be wonderful.

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Thanks.

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SPEAKER: Okay, I will.

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I just haven&amp;apos;t got my glasses.

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Alright, in the agenda 4.1,
item 10 notes that the research undertaken

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during this review has determined
that there is no evidence

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of negative impacts
to community safety due

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to the proposed changes.

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Can you please provide the scope
of the review undertaken,

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who was the review conducted by, the date
of the review, what actual data was used

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to provide the above conclusion?

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Was the impact of biological men
in biological female prisons considered

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in the review, noting that many
of the women were assaulted as

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they are biological male overpowered
the women?

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Did the review consider that
there are currently facilities available,

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unisex facilities given
in disabled toilets are already

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in use for unisex?

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Who funded the review
and what was the cost?

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you
for reading the question.

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Once again, it&amp;apos;s related
to something we&amp;apos;re making a decision on,

00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:36.000
so our CEO will respond.

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MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Can you thank Sam
for her question.

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You&amp;apos;ll see attachment 5
of the Local Law Report contains

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the Gender Equity Impact Assessment.

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This is quite an extensive document
which contains links

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to the research that&amp;apos;s been referenced
throughout the officer report.

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As this information is publicly available
and we have a lot of questions

00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:05.000
to get through tonight, I won&amp;apos;t go into it
in detail on the first five points

00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:07.000
of your question.

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With regard to the availability
of unisex facilities,

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not all Council facilities,
particularly older ones,

00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:16.000
have a separate unisex toilet.

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As the review was conducted internally,
there was no additional cost

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beyond the ordinary operating budget that
we have within Council.

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SPEAKER: I&amp;apos;d like to see where
they review putting paedophiles in

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with young children.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

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We&amp;apos;ll move on with our next question.

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Craig Ritchie, will you be speaking
to your

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- reading your question?

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No?

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I&amp;apos;ll read out Craig&amp;apos;s question.

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So I&amp;apos;ll just be reading out the question.

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&amp;quot;What is Council doing to ensure
all views are given to consideration,

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regardless of how offensive they may be
to those who oppose them?&amp;quot;

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I&amp;apos;ll pass that on, and it&amp;apos;s in the context
of the Local Law conversation.

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MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Thanks
for your question, Craig.

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Council engaged in a broad community
consultation process as part

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of the Local Law review,
which included placing the document

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on public exhibition
and inviting submissions

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from the community.

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We also held a meeting to hear submissions
on this item.

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All
of the submissions have been considered

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and you can find comprehensive responses
to the themes raised

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within the submissions at attachment 4
of the officers&amp;apos; report on the Local Law.

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MAYOR PATTISON: And we&amp;apos;ll now move on
to the second question.

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&amp;quot;Would you change your policies
if presented

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with another independent study
with an agreed methodology which seeks

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data from a wider range of up-to-date
and varied sources

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if this new study provided a credible
rebuttal

00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:51.000
of the existing study&amp;apos;s findings?&amp;quot;

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MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: As your second question,
Craig, maintaining

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of clause 2.1(j) would be inconsistent
with Federal Government legislation and

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is therefore recommended to be removed.

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The research that was undertaken
in our view is reliable and unbiassed and

00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:16.000
in line with best practice.

00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:20.000
Whilst I appreciate there are varying
views on this matter,

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we&amp;apos;re confident in the quality
of the research undertaken

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and you can access the sources
of the evidence reviewed as part

00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:31.000
of the Gender
and Equity Impact Assessment, which

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is attached to the Local Law Report.

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MAYOR PATTISON: And we thank Craig Ritchie
for his question.

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We&amp;apos;ll now move on.

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Is Amy Lissek here to read their question?

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No?

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I&amp;apos;ll read that one for Amy.

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&amp;quot;Are the toilet facilities that present
as toilet blocks

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with open changeroom facilities

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- Cosy Corner, for example

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- going to be changed? &amp;quot;
MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Hi, Amy, and thank you

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for your questions.

00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.000
Our Governance Rules allow
for two questions, so in the interests

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of time and fairness, I&amp;apos;ll provide you
with a written response

00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.000
to your remaining questions
and I&amp;apos;ll respond to 2 now.

00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:18.000
A lot of the matters you raised have been
addressed in other responses,

00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.000
so I&amp;apos;ll answer two
of the questions that have not been raised

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by anyone else tonight.

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We don&amp;apos;t anticipate that the removal
of this clause will result

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in major changes to the way toilets
and facilities are used.

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Toilet signage will remain the same and we
will still provide a range of male,

00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.000
female and all-gender options
across the shire.

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With regard to your first question,
any future upgrades

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to our existing facilities are not
within the scope of the Local Law,

00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:53.000
but the proposed change, if adopted,
would remove the fine currently associated

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with a person entering a facility
for a different gender.

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MAYOR PATTISON: And we

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- MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: And as
for the second question

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- MAYOR PATTISON: I&amp;apos;ll just read
the second question:

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&amp;quot;Will Council provide sanitary bins in
all toilets now and how does this fit

00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:12.000
with those that have urinals?

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Will the urinals be removed
to make women feel more comfortable?

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&amp;quot;MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: As
for your second question, we have no plans

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to change the infrastructure
and the resources provided

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in our existing facilities.

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We will consider design matters as part
of any plans for new

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and upgraded facilities.

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MAYOR PATTISON: We now move on
to Julie Orton&amp;apos;s question.

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Julie, are you here?

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Great.

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Would you like to come forward
and read them?

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MS JULIE ORTON: Yes.

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How does the proposed change
to the Council&amp;apos;s toilet

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and changeroom facilities make it
in any way legally consistent

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with the Commission for Children
and Youth Protection&amp;apos;s Child Safe

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Standards
and the 11 standards that must be

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implemented by any organisation,
including the Surf Coast Shire?

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I request that
all Councillors please familiarise

00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.000
yourselves both individually
and collectively

00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:25.000
with the 11 Child Safe Standards,
particularly Standard 9, which deals

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with privacy of children.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you
for your question.

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Just as an aside, our Councillors
and executive management team have

00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:37.000
recently had a session
around Child Safe Standards, so we are up

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to date and familiar with those standards.

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But I&amp;apos;ll pass on to our CEO
to respond directly to the question.

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MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Thanks, Julie,
and thanks

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for raising the Child Safe Standards.

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Council is committed
to being a Child Safe organisation

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and we have undertaken a lot of work
to ensure that we meet the Child Safe

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Standards.

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Our child safety officers were consulted
on this issue.

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Both outlined child abuse
as a complex issue influenced by a range

00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.000
of risk and protective factors.

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Segregating genders
is not considered an effective method

00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:16.000
of preventing child abuse.

00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:22.000
So the removal
of this clause would not be consistent

00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.000
with the Child Safe Standards,
nor would it put children

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at increased risk of child abuse.

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SPEAKER: Oh, that&amp;apos;s rubbish!

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MS JULIE ORTON: Oh, dear me.

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My second question
is how do Council members

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and staff propose to police
and protect the privacy of children

00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:47.000
and women
against any possible predatory behaviours

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and provide the legislated safety for
all children and women,

00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:58.000
including those who are victims
of sexual abuse, harassment

00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:05.000
and violence while using these facilities,
if this

00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:09.000
- sorry, if this amendment is adopted?

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Any change must be done
properly by creating purpose-built

00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.000
toilets and changerooms.

00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:25.000
Please do not risk any female
of any age or ethnicity becoming a victim

00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:30.000
of antisocial behaviour
and incurring the consequences for all,

00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:36.000
including Surf Coast Councillors
and entities.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thanks
for your second question.

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And I&amp;apos;ll pass that to our CEO.

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MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Thank you, Julie,
for your question.

00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:46.000
There are state laws in place

00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:49.000
- the Summary Offences Act
and the Crimes Act

00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:53.000
- to prevent people from behaving
in an offensive or threatening way,

00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:56.000
including in Council facilities.

00:35:56.000 --> 00:36:00.000
If another person
is acting in a way that makes anyone feel

00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:05.000
unsafe, remove yourself
from that situation, call triple 0

00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:07.000
and request police assistance.

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MS JULIE ORTON: Third question,
how does my

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- MAYOR PATTISON: Sorry, Julie,
we allow two questions.

00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:20.000
MS JULIE ORTON: How does a child get
protected at the stadium, stadium toilets,

00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:23.000
a 10-year-old child in alone?

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MAYOR PATTISON: So thank you
for your questions.

00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:30.000
Bo Carter,
will you be putting forward a question?

00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.000
MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: I can&amp;apos;t see Bo.

00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:33.000
MAYOR PATTISON: No, Bo is not here.

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I&amp;apos;ll read out Bo&amp;apos;s question: &amp;quot;In regards
to the Gender and Equity Impact Assessment

00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:42.000
on page 51 of the meeting agenda it states
that the Gender Equity

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and Impact Assessment was written
by the Gender Equity Advisor.

00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:49.000
Who is the Gender Equity Advisor?
&amp;quot;And I&amp;apos;ll read the second question

00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.000
as well, because we can respond together
with those:&amp;quot;

00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.000
In regards to the process,
why weren&amp;apos;t the public given

00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:58.000
the opportunity to be part
of the discussion with key staff

00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:02.000
and stakeholders and are the residents
of the Surf Coast Shire considered

00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:07.000
stakeholders? &amp;quot;I pass that on to our CEO.

00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.000
MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Hi, Bo,
and I&amp;apos;m sorry you&amp;apos;re not here

00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:12.000
with us tonight, but thank you
for your questions and

00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:17.000
for your continued interest in the
local law development.

00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:22.000
Although the assessment was undertaken
by specialist Council staff, I can confirm

00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:28.000
as the Chief Executive I am responsible
for the document and the recommendations.

00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:31.000
Community input was not sought
specifically on the development

00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.000
of the Gender Impact Assessment as,
like a technical study,

00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:39.000
it required technical expertise.

00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:43.000
Instead, we invited community feedback
on the proposed changes

00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.000
to the Local Law itself.

00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:49.000
The four-week submission period
on the Local Law has recently closed

00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.000
and Council has held a hearing
of submissions meeting.

00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:58.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Cherie Solomon

00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:01.000
- is Cherie here to present their question?

00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:03.000
No?

00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:06.000
I&amp;apos;ll read the question:
&amp;quot;What measures has Council taken

00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:10.000
to ensure the research undertaken
on this topic is objective and unbiassed?

00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:13.000
There are only three research papers
referenced and this is not adequate

00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:15.000
to justify a change to Local Law.

00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:19.000
&amp;quot;I&amp;apos;ll put that one to our CEO as well.

00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:22.000
MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Hi, Cherie,
and thank you for your question

00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:25.000
and the links to some
of the additional articles.

00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:29.000
The purpose of the proposed change is
to improve access and inclusion

00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:32.000
and bring the law in line
with legislative requirements.

00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:36.000
In putting forward this proposal,
officers undertook research

00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:43.000
to ensure that it would not negatively
impact people&amp;apos;s safety and privacy.

00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:46.000
As part of this research, we spoke
to the Victoria Police

00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:50.000
and Council&amp;apos;s Child Safe officers,
who all raised no concerns.

00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:57.000
As mentioned earlier,
we identified that 86%

00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:03.000
of Councils do not have a similar clause
prohibiting people of one gender entering

00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:06.000
a facility designated for another gender.

00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:11.000
No evidence was found
to indicate that a rise in safety

00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:16.000
and privacy violations in the many places
that don&amp;apos;t have this kind of clause

00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:18.000
in their Local Law.

00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:21.000
Officers undertook research from a range
of sources and focused

00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:26.000
on those that were peer reviewed,
had a clearly defined research scope

00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:31.000
and were based on representative samples
to ensure findings documented behavioural

00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:35.000
patterns rather than individual examples.

00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:38.000
MAYOR PATTISON: And we&amp;apos;ll now move on
to the second question: &amp;quot;What measures

00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:41.000
will Council take to ensure the safety
and security

00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:45.000
of women in the proposed change,
if the proposed change is passed?&amp;quot;

00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:48.000
MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: And in regards
to your second question,

00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:50.000
we have undertaken a thorough review
of the research

00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:53.000
and have not found any evidence
that removing the clause

00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:56.000
will impact the privacy or safety
of women.

00:39:56.000 --> 00:40:01.000
Ensuring safety is a priority and,
as I&amp;apos;ve mentioned earlier,

00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:04.000
there are state laws,
the Summary Offences Act

00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.000
and the Crimes Act, in place
to protect our community

00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:10.000
from people behaving
in an offensive or a threatening way

00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:14.000
anywhere, including
in Council toilets and facilities.

00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:21.000
MAYOR PATTISON: We now move on
to our last set of questions and it comes

00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:25.000
from Kelvin Granger and Dean Hurlston
from Council Watch Inc.

00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:29.000
and their question is:
&amp;quot;Can Council please advise the dollar

00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:32.000
amount of cost shifting
from the State Government they estimate

00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:37.000
they incurred in 2022
to 2023 financial year?&amp;quot;

00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.000
And I&amp;apos;ll pass that one on to the CEO.

00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.000
MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Thank you
for your question, Kelvin and Dean.

00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:47.000
This is a very topical issue
for the sector at the moment and in terms

00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:52.000
of the total cost to Council,
this is not easy to define because

00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.000
of the length of time and number
of services impacted.

00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:59.000
But we do have a number of examples
for you.

00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:05.000
Back in the 1970s, libraries were reported
to be funded fifty-fifty

00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:09.000
between the Victorian State Government
and local government.

00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:14.000
Now the state is funding 26% and Council
is funding 74%.

00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:22.000
That&amp;apos;s around an additional $250,000
per annum to our Council.

00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.000
Maternal and child health
is another service

00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:28.000
that was initially funded fifty-fifty
arrangement and is now closer

00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:33.000
to a sixty-forty split,
with Council covering the larger majority

00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:35.000
of the costs.

00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:39.000
Another example of cost shifting is shown
in Council being responsible

00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:43.000
for bus stop renewal,
despite public transport being

00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.000
a responsibility of the State Government.

00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:50.000
This recently cost us more than $100,000.

00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.000
There are some State Government
legislative changes that have also

00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:57.000
increased costs to Councils,
including the increased requirements

00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:00.000
on building services in relation
to swimming pools

00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:03.000
and barrier compliance inspections.

00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:08.000
We welcome the state upper house inquiry
into local government funding

00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.000
and service delivery.

00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:13.000
Like the Municipal Association
of Victoria, we wish

00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:17.000
to see this inquiry providing answers
and additional resources

00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:20.000
to meet the growing number
of obligations the State Government

00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.000
requires of Councils.

00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:26.000
Thank you, Dean and Kelvin,
for your question.

00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:30.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Well, that&amp;apos;s the end
of our public question time and thank you

00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:33.000
to those that submitted their questions
to the Council meeting.

00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:36.000
For those of you that weren&amp;apos;t aware
of the process, questions need

00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:40.000
to be submitted to Council
by 3 o&amp;apos;clock the day prior

00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:44.000
to the Council meeting
and anyone could submit two questions.

00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:48.000
There are plenty of other less formal ways
that you can engage with Council.

00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:52.000
So if you&amp;apos;re feeling dissatisfied
with your ability to engage

00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:56.000
in this particular Council meeting,
please we do appreciate your input

00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.000
and encourage you to get
in touch the other ways

00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:02.000
through customer service
through our website or contacting

00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:03.000
Councillors via email or phone.

00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:05.000
So please stay in contact.

00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:09.000
We now move on to the more formal parts
of our Council meeting

00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:12.000
and the next area is petitions.

00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:17.000
So we have no new petitions,
but we have noted that the petition

00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:20.000
that was submitted
at our last Council meeting has received

00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:26.000
an additional 562 signatures
and that&amp;apos;s the petition titled &amp;quot;Petition

00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:28.000
to the Surf Coast Shire
to Leave the Local Law on Men&amp;apos;s

00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.000
and Women&amp;apos;s Facilities Alone&amp;quot;,

00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.000
and as I mentioned, we received
and noted that

00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:34.000
at the last Council meeting.

00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:37.000
Council will be asked
to note these additional signatures

00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:42.000
when considering the agenda item,
the first item on our agenda, 4.1,

00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:46.000
for the Proposed Community Amenity
Local Law 2023.

00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:48.000
We now move on to Notices of Motion.

00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:52.000
We have a Notice of Motion
from Councillor Wellington relating

00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:55.000
to the Proposed Community Amenity Local
Law and a copy

00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:57.000
of this has been published in the meeting
agenda.

00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:02.000
Officers have asked me to advise that
as part of this motion seeks deferral

00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:06.000
of consideration of the Local Law,
if this motion is carried, then Council

00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:12.000
will also need to defer agenda item 4.1,
being the consideration

00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:14.000
of the Community Amenity Local Law.

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Councillor Wellington, do you wish
to move this notice of motion?

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I didn&amp;apos;t hear that, sorry.

00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:26.000
Do we need to check the volume?

00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:28.000
Yes.

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CR WELLINGTON: Thank you.

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I should say I&amp;apos;ve got laryngitis,
Mayor Pattison,

00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:36.000
and I probably shouldn&amp;apos;t be
at this meeting, but I wished

00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.000
to participate
in this discussion,

00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:40.000
in the discussion on (inaudible).

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MAYOR PATTISON: That&amp;apos;s great.

00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:47.000
Thank you.

00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:49.000
Thank you.

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We will make sure that we keep our ears
trained so we can hear you clearly.

00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:55.000
Is there a seconder for this motion?

00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:56.000
Councillor Barker?

00:44:56.000 --> 00:45:00.000
And is that as per the notice
of motion advertised?

00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.000
Councillor Wellington, do you wish
to speak to your motion?

00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:05.000
CR WELLINGTON: I do.

00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.000
Before I start,
can I just ask how many signatures

00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:11.000
in total we received
on the petition (inaudible).

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MAYOR PATTISON: So there was 562 new
signatures and I think it was 212,

00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.000
but I&amp;apos;ll seek clarification.

00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.000
MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: I thought it was
less than that.

00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:30.000
MAYOR PATTISON: It was somewhere
between 150 and 250, but we can get back

00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.000
to you, take that one on notice.

00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:35.000
CR WELLINGTON: Thank you.

00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:36.000
Thanks very much.

00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:43.000
And I&amp;apos;ve got a couple of questions
before I move on to talking on the motion.

00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:46.000
Our Governance Rules,
35.7 (inaudible) council meeting

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Governance Rules prohibit the CEO
from making recommendations to Council

00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:57.000
about Notices of Motion,
but the CEO&amp;apos;s report on this matter states

00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:01.000
that officers remain firmly
of the recommendation (inaudible)

00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:07.000
do not recommend development of clause
to the effect of the one proposed

00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:10.000
in this Notice of Motion.

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That is a recommendation and appears
to breach our Governance Rules.

00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:20.000
I&amp;apos;ve spoken to officers
about this (inaudible)

00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.000
- MAYOR PATTISON: Sorry,
Councillor Wellington,

00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.000
are you asking a question or are
you speaking to your motion?

00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:27.000
Okay, so have you framed your question?

00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:28.000
CR WELLINGTON: No.

00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:32.000
So governance officers have advised me
that that Governance Rule doesn&amp;apos;t apply

00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:38.000
because it only applies
to motions put forward by officers,

00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:42.000
but that obviously doesn&amp;apos;t apply
in the context of a Notice of Motion

00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:43.000
by Council.

00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:49.000
So I&amp;apos;m just wondering how it can be
that this CEO report, which basically acts

00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:54.000
as an opposition report to my Notice
of Motion, is able to

00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.000
- has been able to (inaudible).

00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you,
I&amp;apos;ll take that question.

00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:04.000
So it&amp;apos;s my understanding that Governance
has provided an assessment

00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:11.000
and has responded to your concern and that
on that basis, we will be proceeding

00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:14.000
with the Notice of Motion tonight based
on that advice.

00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:20.000
The CEO has not made a recommendation
for this non Notice of Motion

00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:25.000
as per our reports
in our standard reporting

00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:29.000
for the Council meeting
and the report draws on points

00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:34.000
and issues that were raised in the report
for item 4.1 of our Council meeting

00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.000
of the agenda.

00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:39.000
So we will be progressing with the Notice
of Motion tonight.

00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:42.000
So would you like to speak to your motion,
Councillor Wellington?

00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:48.000
CR WELLINGTON: I&amp;apos;d like to put notice
of dissent on that (inaudible).

00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:51.000
MAYOR PATTISON: We don&amp;apos;t have
a conversation on a Notice of Dissent.

00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:52.000
I&amp;apos;ll just seek clarification.

00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:56.000
CR WELLINGTON: (Inaudible)
on the basis that the report includes

00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:59.000
a recommendation that the Notice
of Motion not be accepted.

00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.000
MAYOR PATTISON: If we just pause
for one moment, I&amp;apos;ll just refer

00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:05.000
to my Governance Rules
and then we can proceed.

00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:40.000
I&amp;apos;ll just confirm with Governance.

00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:42.000
We&amp;apos;ll be back in one moment.

00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:12.000
Thank you for your procedural motion.

00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:15.000
Unfortunately, motions
of dissent can only be put on a point

00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:18.000
of order and I was just answering
a question,

00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:20.000
so it&amp;apos;s not actually applicable
in our Governance Rules.

00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:23.000
Would you like to speak to your motion,
Councillor Wellington?

00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:32.000
CR WELLINGTON: (Inaudible) the Notice
of Motion actually asks for the CEO

00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:37.000
to prepare a report and so it&amp;apos;s directed
at the CEO and if the CEO

00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:42.000
- the CEO clearly has an interest in
whether or not the Notice of Motion

00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.000
is accepted or not.

00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.000
I&amp;apos;m just wondering how (inaudible) has
been able

00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:54.000
to (inaudible) report which rejects
the Notice of Motion when it&amp;apos;s a Notice

00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:58.000
of Motion requesting her
to prepare some work and

00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.000
she clearly has a conflict of interest
in it.

00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.000
MAYOR PATTISON: I&amp;apos;ll take that question
now and we&amp;apos;ll put that to our CEO.

00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:08.000
So the question as put to our CEO, thanks.

00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:11.000
MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Councillor Wellington,
I think my interpretation

00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:20.000
of the report that has been prepared
is that it addresses your Notice of Motion

00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:26.000
and then it also links to the report 4.1,
which is the consideration

00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:31.000
of the Local Law, because it&amp;apos;s really hard
to actually look at one without the other.

00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:39.000
So there&amp;apos;s consistency
across the two reports.

00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:43.000
But I don&amp;apos;t believe that we have
provided a recommendation,

00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:48.000
a formal recommendation, on the Notice
of Motion in this report.

00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:52.000
I just think there&amp;apos;s consistency
of language across the two reports

00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:58.000
and we&amp;apos;ve addressed some
of the issues specifically that you&amp;apos;ve

00:50:58.000 --> 00:50:59.000
raised as part of your Notice of Motion.

00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:04.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.000
Will you now be speaking to your motion,
Councillor Wellington?

00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.000
CR WELLINGTON: Thank you very much.

00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:18.000
I will say
at the start (inaudible) proposition every

00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:26.000
person should have access to a safe
and clean toilet in the public domain

00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:31.000
and so the issue there
is really our balance of competing demands

00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:35.000
on behalf of women more than men,
but my points are the same,

00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:40.000
but I do feel there&amp;apos;s a particular issue
for women here more

00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:50.000
in prominence (inaudible) would be very
unhappy with women in male toilets

00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.000
as well,
but I think there&amp;apos;s a particular sensitive

00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:56.000
issue that&amp;apos;s really important for women.

00:51:56.000 --> 00:52:00.000
I do want to say also in terms
of our Governance Rules, I&amp;apos;m limited

00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:05.000
to 500 words in terms
of justifying my motion

00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:09.000
and the CEO has double that
in her rebutting argument.

00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:11.000
She&amp;apos;s not supposed to rebut a Notice
of Motion.

00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:16.000
She&amp;apos;s supposed
to put forward the facts related

00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:19.000
to the issues raised in the Notice
of Motion, and I think that (inaudible)

00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:21.000
that this doesn&amp;apos;t breach the Governance
Rules.

00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:24.000
I think it&amp;apos;s a clear breach
and I think it needs to be looked at.

00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:30.000
I also just make the point that our
Governance Rules (inaudible) lot

00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:35.000
of provisions that this Council
implemented a few years ago in an attempt

00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:37.000
to stop this sort
of debate that we&amp;apos;re having

00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:42.000
around this issue and others, attempting
to make it very difficult for Councillors

00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:44.000
to raise issues.

00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:48.000
I objected to those very strongly
at the time and a lot

00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:52.000
of the people in the community did too,
but unfortunately that wasn&amp;apos;t successful

00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:54.000
and I suspect we&amp;apos;re
on the same pathway tonight.

00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:56.000
Well, we are, actually.

00:52:56.000 --> 00:52:59.000
But I&amp;apos;m really sorry about that.

00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:02.000
So I want to say
to the community I am doing my best to try

00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:08.000
to get these issues up for proper debate,
respectful debate, and, you know,

00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:13.000
it&amp;apos;s interesting to me that Council relies
on being a leader in some respects

00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:14.000
with Governance Rules.

00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:17.000
Its response to my problems
with the previous Governance Rules

00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:21.000
when I said, &amp;quot;Well,
no other Council has these, or very few&amp;quot;,

00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:25.000
the answer was, &amp;quot;Yes, but we&amp;apos;re a leader.&amp;quot;

00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:29.000
Here the answer is the complete opposite,
we&amp;apos;re (inaudible) all the other Councils

00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:32.000
that don&amp;apos;t have them
because (inaudible) purpose really.

00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:33.000
I just wanted to make that point.

00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:36.000
In terms
of the rebuttal that&amp;apos;s been put forward

00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:38.000
by officers of my Notice of Motion, well,
first of all,

00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:41.000
I note that a new Local Law would
require gender identity,

00:53:41.000 --> 00:53:44.000
of course it does, it&amp;apos;s part
of the motion.

00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:50.000
It&amp;apos;s widely understood that gender means
the gender person assumes (inaudible)

00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:56.000
and mostly, but not always, gender
is male or female.

00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:03.000
(Inaudible) incorporates (inaudible)
and it&amp;apos;s strongly arguable (inaudible)

00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:07.000
previous meeting that the current Local
Law certainly does not discriminate

00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:11.000
against trans people on the basis
of the accepted definition

00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:15.000
of gender identity,
but it would be helpful

00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:18.000
to have a definition in our Local Law
and we could copy it

00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:22.000
from the federal Sex Discrimination Act.

00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.000
The purpose of Local Laws
is not just about enforcement.

00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:29.000
Whether our officers feel they&amp;apos;re capable
of understanding if a person is presenting

00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:33.000
as a defined gender in male or female
in my view highlights the need

00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:36.000
for training of officers,
not the discarding

00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:40.000
of a law that makes women
in particular feel safer.

00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:44.000
Local Laws set expected standards
of conduct and they allow officers to act

00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:48.000
if, for example, a person
of male gender who is born

00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:53.000
and has assumed male gender decides
to repeatedly enter or just

00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:57.000
to enter female facilities and one
of my residents said (inaudible)

00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:05.000
a male resident said that.

00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:08.000
(Inaudible) assault, no penalties
to be made to the male conducting themself

00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:13.000
in that way unless they&amp;apos;ve also harassed
or threatened people.

00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.000
That is not what

00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:22.000
- generally women have a sense
of security they&amp;apos;re trying to protect,

00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:26.000
but some women do have a real fear
of harassment and assault,

00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:31.000
but generally it&amp;apos;s a sense
of security that they wish to protect.

00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:36.000
We will be in serious trouble in a range
of issues if we rely

00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:41.000
on the enforcement efforts
of our officers entirely for Local Law.

00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:45.000
For many years, for example,
(inaudible) Local Laws (inaudible) nature

00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:48.000
strip treatments
and the fact we have (inaudible) topic,

00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:53.000
though, did create a standard and platform
for reform once a problem is identified

00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:56.000
and that
is exactly what we&amp;apos;re having here.

00:55:56.000 --> 00:56:00.000
(Inaudible) local law
to address the problems that are

00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:02.000
going to be generated by us

00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:09.000
- address the issues that actually affect
only a very small number

00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:14.000
of people (inaudible) of non-binary
or diverse gender.

00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:15.000
They are the ones

00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:18.000
- contrary
to the advice that we&amp;apos;ve received,

00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:21.000
I believe that
they are the ones who are clearly affected

00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:23.000
by this Local Law
and not transgender people who identify

00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:25.000
as a particular gender.

00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:30.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Sorry, Councillor Allen.

00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:32.000
Councillor Allen has

00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:33.000
- CR ALLEN: Thanks, Mayor.

00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:35.000
Could I move,
if Councillor Wellington wishes,

00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:38.000
an extension of time of 2 more minutes?

00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:40.000
CR WELLINGTON: Thank you.

00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:42.000
I can&amp;apos;t see the timer, actually,
but I appreciate that.

00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:44.000
MAYOR PATTISON: The time has finished.

00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:45.000
Yes, that&amp;apos;s accepted, yes.

00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:48.000
CR WELLINGTON: It&amp;apos;s not on the screen,
Mayor Pattison.

00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:50.000
MAYOR PATTISON: No,
they were just resetting it

00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:54.000
because you&amp;apos;d finished your time,
so there&amp;apos;s an additional 2 minutes.

00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:55.000
CR WELLINGTON: Thank you again.

00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:57.000
Thank you to Councillor Allen.

00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:00.000
Can I thank Councillor Allen
and Councillor Barker for their support

00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:01.000
for this matter.

00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:05.000
As I said, the reliance on a number
of other Councils that don&amp;apos;t have such

00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:08.000
Local Law in place
is misplaced (inaudible) opposite argument

00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:09.000
, changing (inaudible).

00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:15.000
The resistance to community engagement
on this issue is really concerning to me.

00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:18.000
I understand it&amp;apos;s an emotive topic,
individuals have specific views,

00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:21.000
but to suggest that a law should not be
debated publicly

00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:26.000
because some people might (inaudible)
is not an acceptable argument.

00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:30.000
Our role is to lead a reasonable
and respectful debate

00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:34.000
and I believe this Council has presented
the arguments (inaudible)

00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:37.000
to the community in a very biassed way,
in the same way it&amp;apos;s responded

00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:42.000
to my Notice of Motion,
effectively supporting (inaudible)

00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:46.000
without actively disclosing
to the community the significant indirect

00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:49.000
impost (inaudible) of women
of removing it.

00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:54.000
And I thank the people in the community
who&amp;apos;ve done a lot of work

00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:56.000
to raise this issue.

00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:59.000
I am absolutely
of the view that biological women

00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:05.000
who identify as women also deserve
the recognition and respect of this shire.

00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:13.000
CR WELLINGTON: One final point
is that no Local Law

00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:16.000
on gender facilities (inaudible)
on our toilets (inaudible)

00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:24.000
is both redundant and misleading,
as was pointed out by a number

00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:26.000
of submitters
and has been also I think tonight.

00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:28.000
People are saying well,
if you haven&amp;apos;t got any way

00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:32.000
to enforce that,
why do you potentially mislead people

00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:35.000
into thinking that it has something
because it doesn&amp;apos;t.

00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:37.000
I agree with that point of view.

00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:43.000
I think this is terribly, terribly sad
and the ideologically driven response

00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:45.000
of the Councillors, the majority
of Councillors

00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:49.000
around this table (inaudible) Notice
of Motion tonight, but I feel compelled

00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:51.000
to put it forward on behalf
of the community.

00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:55.000
Thank you.

00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:03.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Councillor Barker,
do you wish to speak to the motion?

00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:04.000
CR BARKER: Thanks, Mayor.

00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:06.000
As a libertarian, I care
about everyone&amp;apos;s right

00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:08.000
to live their life the way
they see fit so long as

00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:10.000
they cause no harm to others.

00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:15.000
What I see happening here on this issue
is a conflict of rights.

00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:20.000
The proposal at 4.1 recommended
by officers seeks to limit the rights

00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:24.000
of many, predominantly women,
with the intent of supporting the rights

00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:28.000
of a minority who are equally entitled
to have their rights considered.

00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:33.000
I think simple design tweaks could
conserve established social norms,

00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:36.000
while advancing progressive changes.

00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:41.000
This motion, the Notice of Motion,
is essential to gain greater clarity

00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:44.000
on the specific issues surrounding
the Proposed Local Law Amendment

00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:49.000
and gives officers the opportunity
to remove the omnibus style of ramming

00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:51.000
through a mix
of significant policy changes.

00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:55.000
If the Proposed Community Amenity
(Amendment) Local Law 2023 gets passed

00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:59.000
in its current form,
you will see significant backlash

00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:04.000
from the community
more than what has been shown

01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:06.000
in the tabled petition on the matter.

01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:09.000
The community interest shown
by the 97% opposition

01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:13.000
and numbers in the gallery tonight
is just the tip of the iceberg.

01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:16.000
What you will find in any decision-making
body is that

01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.000
if you take the affected people
of your decision making

01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:22.000
along the journey of change,
you will get a much more receptive

01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:27.000
response than what has happened
with this issue, where many generations

01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:32.000
of cultural norms are being squashed
by a tiny amount of decision makers.

01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.000
We are governed mostly by socialists.

01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:37.000
That has contributed significantly
to the cost

01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:40.000
of living crisis we&amp;apos;re currently in
and the reason we&amp;apos;re heading

01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:43.000
into a recession
and are dumping a significant amount

01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:46.000
of social change, such
as what&amp;apos;s being proposed

01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:51.000
in these related amendments, on to society
in such a short period of time.

01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:54.000
Between the economic impacts
and the social changes,

01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:57.000
it is simply too much for society
to absorb.

01:00:57.000 --> 01:01:01.000
It is causing anxiety among many,
including those identified

01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:04.000
as the minority needing attention.

01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:08.000
This status mindset where the surfs are
expected to blindly follow the directives

01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:12.000
of big government is causing long-term
societal damage and if you care

01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:17.000
about the whole of society,
you&amp;apos;ll support this Notice of Motion.

01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:22.000
The CEO&amp;apos;s report ends with what I see
is a recommendation, and I quote,

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&amp;quot;In summary, officers do not recommend
the development of this option as there

01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:31.000
is no evidence of benefit and it is likely
to have the unintended effect

01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:35.000
of causing significant harm
to vulnerable community members.&amp;quot;

01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:41.000
By my reading, that is contrary
to clause 24.1 and clause 35.7

01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:43.000
of our Governance Rules.

01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:47.000
Most importantly, this Notice
of Motion gives us some breathing space

01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:52.000
to reconsider contentious elements
of agenda item 4.1.

01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:55.000
I think it would be wise
to allow this Notice of Motion to pass

01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:59.000
and deal with the issue
with greater consideration.

01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:05.000
Would any other Councillors like to speak
to the motion?

01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:06.000
Councillor Allen?

01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.000
CR ALLEN: Thanks, Mayor.

01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:11.000
As a matter of law,
local government authorities cannot have

01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:16.000
a local law that is inconsistent
with state and/or Commonwealth law.

01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:21.000
Our Local Amenity Law clause 2.1(j)
is inconsistent

01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:26.000
with the Commonwealth legislation,
the Sex Discrimination Act 1984,

01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:29.000
and as such must be removed.

01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:34.000
The question then arises are we
to be silent on the matter of entry

01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:39.000
into Council facilities for people
over the age of 6 or for carers

01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:44.000
with a disabled person or do we consider,
as is the case with the motion moved

01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:48.000
by Councillor Wellington,
to maintain our general prohibition

01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:52.000
on persons accessing a facility designated
for a gender with which

01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:57.000
they do not identify
with the listed exceptions?

01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:01.000
I had a lengthy discussion
with Councillor Wellington

01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:05.000
as her views are well known and coincide
with those of a significant number

01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.000
of residents.

01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:13.000
I am concerned by the fears,
whether real or perceived, of many women.

01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:17.000
I agreed to second her motion that
we are debating tonight.

01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:21.000
After reading
all the relevant information contained

01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:26.000
in the meeting papers, I have,
after an agonising few days, decided

01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:29.000
to withdraw my support for the motion.

01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:32.000
I do so for the following reasons.

01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:37.000
I have consistently maintained that
we cannot have a local law that

01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:40.000
is inconsistent
with superior jurisdictions.

01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:44.000
The report refers to inconsistencies
with section 5(b) and (c)

01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:47.000
of the Commonwealth Act.

01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:53.000
There is a compelling argument that
the proposed law will be unenforceable.

01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:56.000
If this motion is accepted tonight,
then we will be required

01:03:56.000 --> 01:04:00.000
to undergo another period
of community consultation.

01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:03.000
I am now aware, as I am not
on social media,

01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:07.000
of the many harmful comments that have
been posted directed

01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:10.000
against the trans community,
a community which

01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:14.000
is generally very resilient,
but at the same time contains

01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:20.000
many vulnerable members and I do not wish
to prolong these hateful attacks.

01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:22.000
One aspect
of Councillor Wellington&amp;apos;s motion

01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:28.000
that I strongly support is the recognition
of the rights of non-binary people.

01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:33.000
Finally, the statistics showing that
the overwhelming number of LGAs,

01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:37.000
86% in Victoria,
are removing such a by-law

01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:41.000
reassures me that rather quickly the real
and perceived threat of harm

01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:43.000
will disappear.

01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:47.000
My one regret
is that this information was not provided

01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:49.000
to Councillors sooner.

01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:54.000
I apologise to the many residents who
will be disappointed if the by-law

01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:57.000
is to be removed and
to Councillor Wellington,

01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:02.000
to whom two weeks ago I promised support
for her motion.

01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:06.000
Her concern is real and she speaks
from the heart for a significant number

01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:08.000
of people in the shire.

01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:09.000
Thank you.

01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:11.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:13.000
Do any other Councillors wish to speak
to the motion?

01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:15.000
Councillor Bodsworth?

01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:16.000
CR BODSWORTH: Thanks, Mayor.

01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:20.000
I thank Councillors Wellington,
Councillor Barker and Councillor Allen

01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:24.000
for their words as well.

01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:26.000
I&amp;apos;ve also agonised over this one.

01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:31.000
I find it a really difficult tradeoff
kind of situation.

01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:36.000
I&amp;apos;m very concerned
about people&amp;apos;s perceptions of safety

01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:39.000
in municipal buildings.

01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:43.000
I&amp;apos;m going to speak a little bit further
on the next item 4.1 on the agenda,

01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:49.000
so I won&amp;apos;t speak too much on this one,
but I don&amp;apos;t support the Notice of Motion.

01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:52.000
On balance, I&amp;apos;m not supporting it
because I&amp;apos;m concerned

01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:55.000
about its enforceability.

01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:56.000
I believe that

01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:01.000
- I definitely support its intent,
I support the place where it comes from.

01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:05.000
Councillor Wellington&amp;apos;s explained that.

01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:08.000
I support where she&amp;apos;s coming from with it.

01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:13.000
I believe that the existing
local law provisions, if we are to get rid

01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:17.000
of this particular clause, are adequate
to cover the kind

01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.000
of fears that people have voiced.

01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:23.000
There will remain five clauses in the
local law which cover the kind

01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:27.000
of eventualities that people are concerned
about.

01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:31.000
That&amp;apos;s leaving aside state law,
of which there are several laws also

01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:34.000
that cover the kinds
of things that people are concerned about.

01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:37.000
So, for those reasons,
I won&amp;apos;t support the notice of motion.

01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:39.000
Thank you.

01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:40.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:42.000
Any other Councillors?

01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:43.000
Councillor Stapleton?

01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:45.000
CR STAPLETON: Thank you.

01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:49.000
I do not support the motion
and while I appreciate its intention

01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:54.000
and I understand the response
to this issue has obviously raised genuine

01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:59.000
concerns in the community, it is clear
to me that this clause in our Local Law

01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:01.000
is best removed.

01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:07.000
Given that 67 of 78 other Councils
in Victoria have removed or do not have

01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:12.000
this clause and there has been no evidence
to suggest it has created safety issues

01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:16.000
within those municipalities, there
is little justification for keeping it

01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:18.000
in our own local laws.

01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:22.000
A clause of this kind, as we&amp;apos;ve heard,
is not enforceable

01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:25.000
and we cannot expect Council officers
to be in a position where they&amp;apos;re

01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:28.000
attempting
to determine a person&amp;apos;s gender

01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:30.000
or gender identity.

01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:34.000
Delaying this decision would initiate
a second round of public exhibition,

01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:37.000
prolonging the debate
and potentially causing further harm

01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:40.000
to some members of our community.

01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:44.000
Of course women in our community deserve
the respect of this shire

01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:48.000
and there are many women sitting
around this table who also have daughters

01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:51.000
and mothers living in this community.

01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:54.000
Of course we care about their rights
and sense of safety.

01:07:56.000 --> 01:08:01.000
We know that 86% of Councils
across the state have removed or

01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:07.000
do not have this clause and there
is no evidence of adverse impacts

01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:08.000
as a result.

01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:12.000
Therefore, I support us moving forward
with the revised Local Law which

01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:15.000
will be debated next.

01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:17.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:18.000
Councillor Gazzard?

01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:20.000
CR GAZZARD: Thank you.

01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:23.000
I also won&amp;apos;t be supporting the Notice
of Motion.

01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:28.000
I think that it&amp;apos;s a human right for access
to water and sanitation

01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:32.000
and everyone needs a place to go
to the toilet.

01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:34.000
All-gender bathrooms are not new.

01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:36.000
Most of us have one in our own home.

01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:42.000
We have shared bathrooms in the Councillor
lounge and I think that it&amp;apos;s inclusive

01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:45.000
and safe.

01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:49.000
Shared bathrooms create more inclusive
societies that protect human dignity.

01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:57.000
MAYOR PATTISON: I&amp;apos;ll just ask people
in the gallery to please be respectful.

01:08:57.000 --> 01:08:59.000
Otherwise you can leave the gallery.

01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:02.000
We need silence so Councillors can
concentrate when they&amp;apos;re speaking.

01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.000
Please can we all be respectful?

01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:08.000
CR GAZZARD: If a person of any gender
is going to use a toilet, I think we&amp;apos;d

01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:11.000
all agree that should be allowed
as a basic human right.

01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:15.000
If a person, regardless of gender,
is entering any toilet with the intent

01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:19.000
to harm, that is unlawful regardless
of the Local Law.

01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:23.000
So I won&amp;apos;t be supporting this.

01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:25.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:28.000
Councillor Wellington,
did you have any closing remarks?

01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:29.000
CR WELLINGTON: Thank you.

01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:31.000
I do.

01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:33.000
First of all, I&amp;apos;d like
to thank Councillor Barker

01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:39.000
and Councillor Allen (inaudible) there&amp;apos;s
no issue for not supporting the motion.

01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:44.000
The fact that he supported to put it up
for debate is the important issue

01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:47.000
and the fact that our
local laws potentially inhibit

01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:50.000
that significantly
by requiring three supporting Councillors

01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:55.000
makes me very reliant on Councillor Barker
and Councillor Allen,

01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:59.000
I think the only two who&amp;apos;ve done that,
but possibly Councillor Bodsworth has done

01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:01.000
it, I think, once in the past as well.

01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:03.000
I very much appreciate that.

01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:06.000
I think debate is important
about important issues.

01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:10.000
The purpose of the Notice of Motion is
to accommodate all

01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:13.000
of the groups that have been identified so
that we are not inconsistent

01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:14.000
with other laws.

01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:18.000
I believe that accommodating children
over 6 is not a problem at all.

01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:21.000
Accommodating transgender individuals
is not a problem at all.

01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:25.000
In fact, it is my view that
they are already accommodated in the Local

01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:28.000
Law and they are not prohibited
from entering the facilities

01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:32.000
of their choice at the moment,
but we could readily clarify that

01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:36.000
with a definition of what gender means
in terms of gender identity.

01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:42.000
So the people who are left are
the non-binary gender diverse people and

01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:46.000
according to the statistics that
is somewhere between 75,000 and 100,000.

01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:48.000
They are nevertheless important
and it would be simple

01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:52.000
to include an exclusion for those people.

01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:54.000
People are not just concerned,
Councillor Bodsworth,

01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:57.000
about being assaulted in public toilet.

01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:00.000
They&amp;apos;re concerned about their sense
of security and protection,

01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:04.000
having spent their whole lives being
educated about not putting themselves

01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:08.000
in positions of vulnerability
in isolated places and that is what

01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:12.000
will be occurring if
they use public toilets which are open

01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:17.000
to people of male gender
if there are women are doing it.

01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:22.000
It&amp;apos;s about anxiety, it&amp;apos;s
about a sense of security.

01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:25.000
Actual attacks
in public places are quite rare.

01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:27.000
I&amp;apos;m not surprised to hear the opposition.

01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:30.000
It was completely expected.

01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:33.000
I&amp;apos;m glad we&amp;apos;ve had the debate
and I&amp;apos;m glad the community understands it

01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:36.000
more now than they would have done
if we hadn&amp;apos;t had the debate.

01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:42.000
And I&amp;apos;m sorry that the debate has caused
some level of aggression

01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:45.000
- aggressive language towards people
of different genders.

01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:48.000
MAYOR PATTISON: I ask you to wind that up
because you&amp;apos;re now over time, thank you,

01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:50.000
Councillor Wellington.

01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:52.000
We&amp;apos;ll now put the motion to the vote.

01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:54.000
All those in

01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:59.000
- so the motion, just to clarify,
is the motion as put forward

01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:02.000
by Councillor Wellington
for this Notice of Motion.

01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:06.000
So all those in favour of the Notice
of Motion.

01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:08.000
And all those opposed.

01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:12.000
Thank you.

01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:20.000
And the motion is lost and it&amp;apos;s 7 opposed

01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:23.000
- or 2 in favour and 7 opposed.

01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:31.000
We&amp;apos;ll now move on to the reports
for our meeting tonight.

01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:36.000
So the first report is 4.1,
Proposed Community Amenity Local Law.

01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:44.000
CR WELLINGTON: Mayor Pattison,
can I please ask a question?

01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:48.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Yes.

01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:51.000
CR WELLINGTON: I just feel that
the issue of

01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:56.000
- obviously the issue has been raised
about omnibus recommendations

01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:59.000
and this recommendation deals
with public toilets, it deals with safety,

01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:04.000
it deals with nature strips and a couple
of other minor things.

01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:06.000
It is my view that it should be put

01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:09.000
- each of the recommendations should be put
forward separately

01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:12.000
because it&amp;apos;s an improper
governance approach to incorporate

01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:14.000
-
MAYOR PATTISON: Can you just

01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:15.000
clarify your question, sorry?

01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:17.000
So your question is you would like

01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:22.000
- CR WELLINGTON: I would like it separated
into separate elements, please.

01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:24.000
MAYOR PATTISON: If you&amp;apos;ll just give
me a moment to

01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:27.000
- I&amp;apos;ll pass that to our CEO.

01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:30.000
MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Thank you,
Councillor Wellington, for your question.

01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:37.000
It&amp;apos;s pretty standard practice
around things like laws for those

01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:44.000
to be considered in packages and so it&amp;apos;s
a bit like when our local laws

01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:49.000
in 2021 sunsetted,
we remade the whole laws

01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:50.000
and we&amp;apos;ve considered them in parts.

01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:53.000
That&amp;apos;s pretty standard with things
like road rules.

01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:58.000
They&amp;apos;re considered in packages of changes
on a semi regular basis.

01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:01.000
This is not inconsistent with that.

01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:05.000
In terms of us separating them tonight,
that&amp;apos;s not possible

01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:11.000
because they&amp;apos;ve been certified legally
in their entirety and if we looked

01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:14.000
at them separately
and only supported part of them,

01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:18.000
then we&amp;apos;d have
to reconsider the whole thing.

01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:27.000
MAYOR PATTISON: We now move on
to the Community Amenity Local Law 2023.

01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:30.000
The purpose of this report is
to present the proposed Community Amenity

01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:34.000
Local Law incorporating the Residential
Nature Strip Guidelines to Council

01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:36.000
for adoption.

01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:38.000
We have a recommendation that&amp;apos;s
in the agenda papers.

01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:40.000
Do I have a mover of a motion?

01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:42.000
Councillor Stapleton.

01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:43.000
And seconded Councillor Barker?

01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:46.000
CR BARKER: I just need
to make a statement beforehand.

01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:49.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Oh, certainly, sorry
about that, yes.

01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:50.000
Please go ahead.

01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:54.000
CR BARKER: Given community demand
for an online petition and limited time

01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:56.000
to get one created,
I supported the lead petitioner

01:14:56.000 --> 01:14:57.000
by creating one myself.

01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:00.000
This attracted
more than 200 additional signatures

01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:02.000
to the petition,
but this has created a situation

01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:04.000
that I need to address.

01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:07.000
I hope that in the future,
as other contentious issues arise,

01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:10.000
many more people in the community are
prepared to take the lead

01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:15.000
in generating petitions so that I can
focus on voting down these issues.

01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:18.000
Based on advice that I&amp;apos;ve received, I want
to take this opportunity

01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:21.000
to inform the Council
and the gallery that I&amp;apos;ll not be voting

01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:22.000
on this item.

01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:25.000
As I was the creator
of the online petition in relation

01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:30.000
to the removal of clause 2.1(j)
of the Local Law, I do not want there

01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:32.000
to be a perception of bias.

01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:34.000
I respect the democratic process
and the integrity

01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:38.000
of Council decision making
and I have made the decision

01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:40.000
to remove myself from this item.

01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:45.000
But you can know that if I was to vote,
it would be a resounding no.

01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:47.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you,
Councillor Barker.

01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:54.000
So Councillor Stapleton,
you&amp;apos;ll move the motion

01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:55.000
as per the recommendation?

01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:57.000
And do I have a seconder?

01:15:57.000 --> 01:15:58.000
Councillor Gazzard.

01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:01.000
As per the recommendation?

01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:04.000
And Councillor Stapleton, would you
like to speak?

01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:06.000
CR STAPLETON: Sure, thank you.

01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:11.000
So it&amp;apos;s important that our Community
Amenity Local Law is up to date

01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:12.000
and effective.

01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:16.000
Tonight we&amp;apos;re considering adoption
of the Community Amenity (Amended)

01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:19.000
Local Law 2023.

01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:22.000
The Local Law went
through an extensive review

01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:28.000
and engagement in 2021, with follow-up
engagement this year in response

01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:31.000
to specific issues that we knew were
important to our community,

01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:36.000
such as nature strips and tiny houses
on wheels, as well as changes identified

01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:39.000
by officers through the review process.

01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:44.000
The key changes proposed in the amended
Local Law that&amp;apos;s before us tonight include

01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:47.000
the addition
of new Residential Nature Strip Guidelines

01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:50.000
, expanding the definition
of no smoking areas

01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:56.000
to include e-cigarettes and vapes,
extending provisions for camping

01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:59.000
and temporary accommodation and keeping
of animals

01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:05.000
to support people fleeing family violence,
and removing clause 2.1(j), which relates

01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:09.000
to the use of public facilities,
which has obviously attracted the most

01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:13.000
attention of all the proposed changes and
is where I will focus my comments tonight.

01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:18.000
Removal
of this clause would mean our facilities

01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:23.000
are inclusive and respectful of everyone,
regardless of their gender,

01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:26.000
so that everyone in the community has
lawful options

01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:29.000
to use essential public facilities.

01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:32.000
It would also allow children over the age
of 6 to be accompanied

01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:36.000
by a parent or caregiver
of a different gender when using toilets

01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:38.000
of other facilities.

01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:41.000
As we heard through the previous item,
the Notice of Motion,

01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:45.000
we have considered amending rather than
removing this clause.

01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:48.000
However, it
is apparent that that would not have had

01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:52.000
the desired outcome, particularly
with respect to Council officers being

01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:55.000
able to enforce it.

01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:58.000
The vast majority of concerns raised
by community have been

01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:03.000
around the issue of safety, especially
for women, when using public toilets.

01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:08.000
These concerns are real and genuine
and it makes it difficult for Councillors

01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:12.000
to make a decision that on the surface
is confronting and could appear

01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:15.000
to put women in our community at risk.

01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:20.000
However, we know that 86%
of local Councils do not have this clause

01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:23.000
in their Local Law and there
is no evidence that

01:18:23.000 --> 01:18:28.000
they have increased safety issues
in their communities as a result.

01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:32.000
Of the remaining 10 Councils that still
have this clause, we know that they

01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:36.000
will also need to address this issue
when their Local Law comes up for review.

01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:40.000
I believe our neighbours
at Colac Otway Shire are currently

01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:45.000
exhibiting their own Local Law review
with the same clause removed.

01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:48.000
Removal of this clause would
not only ensure Council&amp;apos;s laws are

01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:51.000
consistent
with the federal Sex Discrimination Act

01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:53.000
and the Victorian Gender Equality Act.

01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:57.000
It would mean our laws are more inclusive
of people in our community.

01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:04.000
Keeping this clause in our law
is impractical in many situations.

01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:08.000
We have a mix of genders using facilities
at the same time for sporting

01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:11.000
and other events each week
across the shire.

01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:14.000
Realistically, we don&amp;apos;t expect
to see major changes

01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:17.000
to the way the majority
of people use our public toilets

01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:20.000
as a result of this change.

01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:23.000
I do not want
to discount the community&amp;apos;s fears

01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:27.000
and concerns around the proposed change
as I know they are genuine,

01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:30.000
but the evidence shows me
they are unfounded.

01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:33.000
This is not a decision Council
is taking lightly.

01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:36.000
The Gender Equity Impact Assessment
undertaken in relation

01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:40.000
to this gave significant consideration
to the safety and privacy of

01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:44.000
all people using Council&amp;apos;s
toilets and facilities.

01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:47.000
A review of the evidence, which
is attached to the agenda report

01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:51.000
for anyone interested, shows there
is no reason to expect negative impacts

01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:54.000
to community safety due
to proposed changes.

01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:57.000
There have been discussions
with key stakeholders,

01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:01.000
including Council&amp;apos;s child safety officers
and the Torquay Police.

01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:05.000
However, if residents are concerned
about their safety, there are laws

01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:09.000
in place to protect our community
from people behaving

01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:11.000
in an offensive or threatening way.

01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:16.000
People should definitely call the police
if they have any issues like this.

01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:19.000
The review
of the Local Law has been well considered

01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:23.000
and done over a lengthy period
to weigh up research, benchmarking

01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:24.000
and community views.

01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:28.000
We do want the Surf Coast Shire
to be a place that everyone can continue

01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:30.000
to enjoy and appreciate.

01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:34.000
A large part of that is to ensure that it
is safe and inclusive.

01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:39.000
These changes will help to achieve that
and therefore I urge my fellow Councillors

01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:41.000
to support this amended Local Law.

01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:43.000
Thank you.

01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:44.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:47.000
Councillor Gazzard, would you like
to speak to the motion?

01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:48.000
CR GAZZARD: Thank you.

01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:51.000
With regards to the removal of the clause,
I support

01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:55.000
- well, I support the whole motion,
but I think it&amp;apos;s important to think

01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:59.000
about how we provide facilities and how
they might affect or affirm trans

01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:02.000
and gender diverse people
in our community.

01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:06.000
For trans and gender diverse individuals,
selecting a bathroom becomes

01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:10.000
a calculation of self-preservation,
a type of self-surveillance in an effort

01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:14.000
to minimise the likelihood
of harassment and violence.

01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:16.000
This is something that most
of us don&amp;apos;t need to think

01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:20.000
about when we&amp;apos;re going to the toilet.

01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:24.000
Trans people are among the most vulnerable
in our community

01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:30.000
and this law improves inclusivity
and safety

01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:33.000
for our gender diverse population.

01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:37.000
I thank everyone for their submissions
and I acknowledge the concerns,

01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:41.000
particularly by women, around the prospect
of sexual assault

01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:44.000
in using gender-inclusive bathrooms,
but I really think we should challenge

01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:50.000
the notion that bodies assigned male
at birth are inherently violent.

01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:53.000
Safety for everyone in our community can
not only be guaranteed

01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:56.000
through gender-specific or sex-segregated
bathroom arrangements.

01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:02.000
I think it&amp;apos;s important
to note that violence against women,

01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:09.000
which is a huge issue, affects 1
in 3 women as per the WHO estimates

01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:13.000
and 90% of that, 90% of that
is perpetrated

01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:16.000
by an intimate partner in the home.

01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:18.000
So I don&amp;apos;t think

01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:21.000
- if we&amp;apos;re really focusing
on improving outcomes for women

01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:26.000
and decreasing violence against women,
we should be investing in infrastructure,

01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:29.000
in education, in mental health
and health care.

01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:37.000
On that note, I&amp;apos;m very happy
to see the change in the Local Law

01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:43.000
to support those who are fleeing domestic
violence to allow them care for their pets

01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:48.000
for a longer duration and
for parking facilities and I&amp;apos;m excited

01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:52.000
to see the Residential Nature Strip
Guidelines finally be put in place.

01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:53.000
Thank you.

01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:55.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:57.000
Do any other Councillors wish to speak
to the motion?

01:22:57.000 --> 01:22:59.000
Councillor Bodsworth?

01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:00.000
CR BODSWORTH: Thanks, Mayor.

01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:04.000
I don&amp;apos;t have a lot more to add,
but I just want to I guess use my voice

01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:08.000
on this issue as well
because it has been a difficult one I

01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:10.000
think for all of us.

01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:13.000
I think all
of the Councillors have approached this

01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:19.000
in a genuine, thoughtful, careful way,
have really tried to do what they think

01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:22.000
is best.

01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:25.000
As we headed towards this,
I always believed that it would be

01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:27.000
a contentious issue.

01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:30.000
I believed that there would be angst
around it.

01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:35.000
I think it&amp;apos;s perfectly reasonable
for people to be concerned when it comes

01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:39.000
to issues of safety for themselves or
for their loved ones.

01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:42.000
I think all of that is completely normal.

01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:49.000
As Councillor Wellington has said
and Councillor Barker as well, it&amp;apos;s a time

01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:50.000
of changing social norms.

01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:56.000
I think this is an example
of where changing norms involve some pain.

01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:57.000
It&amp;apos;s difficult to get things right.

01:23:57.000 --> 01:24:02.000
So I believe that we&amp;apos;ve got this right.

01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:04.000
I believe that the evidence

01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:07.000
- well, I&amp;apos;m going with the weight
of the evidence that I&amp;apos;ve got in front

01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:11.000
of me, which is not at all
to discount the perceptions

01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:15.000
and how important perceptions are
to people, so that&amp;apos;s completely valid

01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:20.000
and I&amp;apos;m concerned
about any upset that people might feel

01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:25.000
in the decision that we&amp;apos;re making,
as sometimes happens on Council.

01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:27.000
It&amp;apos;s just an unfortunate position to be
in.

01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:32.000
But I&amp;apos;ve certainly done my best
to get my head across all of these issues.

01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:35.000
I&amp;apos;m persuaded
by the evidence that underpins this

01:24:35.000 --> 01:24:38.000
recommendation so that I
will support the recommendation.

01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:44.000
And as I said when I spoke earlier
on the Notice of Motion, if this clause is

01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:48.000
to be removed,
there remain several other clauses.

01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:50.000
I want to quickly run through a couple
of those.

01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:55.000
So what would remain is
&amp;quot;a person must not commit any nuisance

01:24:55.000 --> 01:25:00.000
in a municipal building; interfere
with any other person&amp;apos;s use and enjoyment

01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:03.000
of a municipal building;
act in a manner which endangers any

01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:09.000
other person; use indecent, insulting,
offensive or abusive language; behave

01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:13.000
in an indecent, offensive,
insulting or riotous manner.&amp;quot;

01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:19.000
As I said before, in addition to that,
there are state laws under the Crimes

01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:22.000
and Summary Offences Act also.

01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:24.000
So I don&amp;apos;t believe that we need this
clause,

01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:28.000
the clause that we&amp;apos;re proposing to remove,
to cover the kinds

01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:33.000
of things that people are concerned about,
whether it be actual safety or perceived

01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:35.000
safety.

01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:38.000
For all those reasons,
I support the recommendation.

01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:44.000
I&amp;apos;m also happy
to see the Nature Strip Guidelines

01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:48.000
and I&amp;apos;ll give a shout-out, which a couple
of us have done before, to Patrick

01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:52.000
and Sue Carter,
who&amp;apos;ve been particularly staunch

01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:57.000
on the value that nature strips offer
environmentally and in terms

01:25:57.000 --> 01:26:01.000
of amenity and climate.

01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:02.000
Thank you.

01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:05.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:08.000
Councillor Wellington, would you like
to speak to the motion?

01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:11.000
Oh, actually, sorry,
I&amp;apos;ve just noticed that Councillor

01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:14.000
Schonfelder has had his hand up prior
to you, sorry.

01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:16.000
Councillor Schonfelder,
I didn&amp;apos;t see the yellow hand raised

01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:18.000
in the background.

01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:19.000
It&amp;apos;s a bit difficult to see.

01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:21.000
So sorry, Councillor Wellington.

01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:24.000
Councillor Schonfelder, would you like
to speak to the motion?

01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:29.000
CR SCHONFELDER: Mayor,
you can hear me alright?

01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:31.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Yes, we can hear you fine,
thanks.

01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:34.000
CR SCHONFELDER: I&amp;apos;d like
to thank Councillor Wellington

01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:36.000
for her Notice of Motion.

01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:44.000
I notice that both Councillor Wellington
and I voted against putting the item out

01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:47.000
to the community
for community consultation in relation

01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:53.000
to the amenity changes
and my position has remained unchanged

01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:54.000
in relation to that.

01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:59.000
I concur with Councillor Wellington
when it comes to women wanting

01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:06.000
to have a safe place and also having their
own privacy respected.

01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:14.000
No-one in the community who has contacted
me has been homophobic or has been anti

01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:19.000
trans people or intolerant
in any manner whatsoever.

01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:27.000
Our country has become very multicultural
and changes are taking place

01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:32.000
and it&amp;apos;s important
to note that the fastest-growing religion

01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:39.000
in Australia is actually Islam and
in some municipalities in Melbourne

01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:42.000
and also
in Shepparton there are aquatic centres

01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:48.000
that allow women to swim only
with other women and I think it&amp;apos;s very

01:27:48.000 --> 01:27:50.000
important to recognise that.

01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:54.000
And in relation to amenities,
I think it&amp;apos;s probably best

01:27:54.000 --> 01:28:00.000
to have alterations made where people
who are transgendered could go

01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:05.000
to a separate bathroom similar
to people who are possibly disabled.

01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:12.000
So once again,
I thank the community who have contacted

01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:18.000
me about this issue and I feel
as though the Muslim community as well

01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:25.000
as other communities who feel strongly
about this issue should be listened to.

01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:28.000
Thank you.

01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:30.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:33.000
Councillor Wellington, did you wish
to speak to the motion?

01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:38.000
CR WELLINGTON: Thank you, yes, I do.

01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:41.000
I just wanted to address the issue
of the omnibus provisions and I do have

01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:45.000
to say that the bundling up
of road rules in a single provision

01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:47.000
is really quite a different thing
from the bundling up

01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:53.000
of this public facility toilet issue
with things like vaping and that,

01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:56.000
it&amp;apos;s just not comparable.

01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:00.000
I have to vote against this motion
in that I strongly support the stronger

01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:07.000
approach to nature strip reform
because I can&amp;apos;t support the approach

01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:08.000
to public toilets.

01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:12.000
So it&amp;apos;s really a very,
very poor governance practice to do this.

01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:17.000
I just note that the Ombudsman has spoken
about this in the past and I think this

01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:20.000
is not a good way for the Council
to be exercising good governance.

01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:26.000
We can establish all four options,
in response to Councillor Allen,

01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:30.000
without removal of the clause.

01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:34.000
I believe transgender people are already
permitted to access Council facilities

01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:36.000
according to the gender (inaudible).

01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:39.000
I don&amp;apos;t think the Local Law precludes that
at the moment at all

01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:43.000
and I think we can clarify that,
we can state it in the Local Law,

01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:50.000
we can fix the issue of children
like children aged more than 6 who need

01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:55.000
to go to toilets with their mother,
that can be fixed.

01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:59.000
The people who are left who are currently
clearly excluded

01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:06.000
by the law are the (inaudible) 100,000
who are bisexual or

01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:12.000
- sorry, not bisexual, who are gender fluid
and don&amp;apos;t identify

01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:15.000
with a particular gender and
they are the ones who

01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:22.000
- clearly everyone deserves
clean (inaudible) public toilet facilities

01:30:22.000 --> 01:30:25.000
and it should be clarified
in this Local Law that it (inaudible)

01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:28.000
those people from selecting a toilet
in which they feel safest.

01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:31.000
I agree with Councillor Gazzard
that those people often have terrible

01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:36.000
difficulty finding a public facility
that does feel safe for them.

01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:38.000
That won&amp;apos;t be changed
by our Local Law either.

01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:42.000
That&amp;apos;s about community attitudes and it&amp;apos;s
about community education

01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:46.000
and that won&amp;apos;t be changed
in this Local Law.

01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:50.000
I think benchmarking
against other Councils is very fraught.

01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:53.000
If you look at the level
of community satisfaction of the sector,

01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:55.000
it&amp;apos;s very low.

01:30:55.000 --> 01:30:56.000
It&amp;apos;s getting worse.

01:30:56.000 --> 01:31:01.000
And I don&amp;apos;t think we should be learning
off each other what the best thing to do

01:31:01.000 --> 01:31:03.000
is.

01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:04.000
It&amp;apos;s not just about actual assault.

01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:08.000
A man could use a female toilet
with no ill intent in circumstances where

01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:13.000
the male toilet (inaudible) and there
will be no prohibition at all

01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:17.000
and many women
will find that very confronting

01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:24.000
and I don&amp;apos;t think the community
(inaudible) approach at all.

01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:27.000
A lack of evidence does not prove
that something is not happening.

01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:30.000
It simply proves that the evidence
is not accumulated or collated.

01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:32.000
It may still emerge.

01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:39.000
I cannot vote for this motion
because I support part of it,

01:31:39.000 --> 01:31:42.000
but I don&amp;apos;t support the other part of it
and it&amp;apos;s very unfortunate that Council is

01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:45.000
in this position.

01:31:45.000 --> 01:31:49.000
And I do reiterate my concern
about the way that Council appears

01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:53.000
to have reached this decision (inaudible)
rather than engaging really frankly

01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:55.000
and openly

01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:58.000
- MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you,
Councillor Wellington.

01:31:58.000 --> 01:31:59.000
You&amp;apos;ve now exceeded your time.

01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:01.000
Councillor Stapleton, would you like to

01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:03.000
- sorry.

01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:06.000
CR WELLINGTON: I missed that I intend
to retire from the meeting

01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:08.000
after the motion.

01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:09.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Okay.

01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:12.000
Thanks for letting us know,
Councillor Wellington.

01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:14.000
Sorry, Councillor Allen, did you wish
to speak to the motion?

01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:16.000
CR ALLEN: Thanks, Mayor.

01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:18.000
Look, I can&amp;apos;t add much more
to what I&amp;apos;ve already said.

01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:20.000
I do agree
with Councillor Gazzard in the sense

01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:25.000
that violence in the home
is the real issue against women and

01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:31.000
against children that we as a society have
to face as a principle dealing

01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:34.000
with children who are abused at home.

01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:38.000
It is heart wrenching and
as a society we really have to come

01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:40.000
to terms with that.

01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:45.000
I do believe that this will settle
and that people

01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:49.000
will conduct themselves properly
within the public facilities.

01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:51.000
If they don&amp;apos;t, there is a criminal law.

01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:55.000
I mean, we assume that a man is going
to abuse a little girl,

01:32:55.000 --> 01:33:02.000
but at the moment a man can abuse a boy
in public toilets.

01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:09.000
It&amp;apos;s a very difficult, very sensitive,
emotional and heart-wrenching issue

01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:16.000
and I thank Councillor Wellington
for her leadership in this and her views

01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:19.000
and I agree
with her that we really shouldn&amp;apos;t be

01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:23.000
bundling up these Local Amenity Laws.

01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:30.000
I think we really do need to look
at the Governance Rules about this matter.

01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:32.000
Thank you.

01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:36.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Councillor Stapleton,
do you have any closing remarks?

01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:40.000
CR STAPLETON: Yes, there&amp;apos;s not a lot
to add and I assume

01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:43.000
by this point in the debate that most
Councillors will have decided

01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:47.000
whether or not they want
to support this motion,

01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:52.000
but if anyone does still feel undecided,
please consider that I don&amp;apos;t think anyone

01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:55.000
around this table,
nor our Council officers,

01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:59.000
who&amp;apos;ve worked so hard on this amendment,
would want to support a local law

01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:04.000
that makes life more unsafe for women or
for anyone in our community.

01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:10.000
The proposed change to the Local Law
to remove clause 2.1(j) is confronting

01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:15.000
and it has raised fears for some people
about women&amp;apos;s safety in public spaces

01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:17.000
and it&amp;apos;s reassuring
to know that so many people

01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:20.000
in our community do care about that.

01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:24.000
However, as Councillors and leaders
in our community, we need

01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:28.000
to make decisions based
on the evidence before us.

01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:31.000
We can&amp;apos;t let fear
of what may happen get in the way

01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:34.000
of making a decision that is right.

01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:36.000
This is not
about being led or following

01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:38.000
other Councils.

01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:42.000
It&amp;apos;s about the impact it&amp;apos;s having or not
having in their communities.

01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:46.000
At this point in time, there
is no evidence to suggest the removal

01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:51.000
of this clause has had any impact
on women&amp;apos;s safety in other communities

01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:55.000
and therefore I urge my fellow Councillors
to support the proposed change

01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:57.000
and adopt the amended Local Law tonight.

01:34:57.000 --> 01:34:59.000
Thank you.

01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:00.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:02.000
We&amp;apos;ll now put the motion to the vote.

01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:06.000
All those in favour of the recommendation.

01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:13.000
And all those opposed.

01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:16.000
And the motion is carried 6-2.

01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:18.000
CR WELLINGTON: Can I have what the vote

01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:20.000
- oh, I&amp;apos;m sorry, yes.

01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:22.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Carried 6-2,
because I know those

01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:24.000
on the screen can&amp;apos;t see that.

01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:29.000
Given that we&amp;apos;ve had some
long conversations, public questions,

01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:32.000
and the like, we
will now suspend Standing Orders

01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:37.000
for a break of 20 minutes and we
will come back after that.

01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:39.000
So we&amp;apos;ll be coming back at 8 o&amp;apos;clock.

01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:41.000
So for those online, you can head off.

01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:43.000
We&amp;apos;ll put the motion to

01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:45.000
- I&amp;apos;ll need a mover, sorry.

01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:48.000
Councillor Bodsworth, yes, and a seconder

01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:51.000
- sorry, Councillor Schonfelder,
you&amp;apos;re seconding?

01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:54.000
CR SCHONFELDER: I was going to move it,
but I&amp;apos;m happy to second it.

01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:55.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Great.

01:35:55.000 --> 01:35:58.000
All those in favour
to suspend Standing Orders.

01:35:58.000 --> 01:35:59.000
Thank you.

01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:01.000
It&amp;apos;s carried unanimously.

01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:03.000
We will see those online at 8 o&amp;apos;clock
and those in the gallery,

01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:06.000
if they choose to remain,
we&amp;apos;ll see you back at 8 o&amp;apos;clock.

01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:08.000
Thank you, everybody,
for your involvement so far.

01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:12.000
(Short break) MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:15.000
We will now recommence our Council meeting

01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:19.000
Can I have a mover
to recommence Standing Orders?

01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:22.000
Moved by Councillor Allen, seconded
by Councillor Stapleton.

01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:24.000
All those in favour.

01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:26.000
And the motion is carried unanimously.

01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:30.000
We now move on to item 4.2,
Growing Regions Program

01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:31.000
- Funding Opportunity.

01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:34.000
The purpose of this report is
to seek Council&amp;apos;s endorsement

01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:37.000
to submit a funding application
for the Winchelsea Pool Redevelopment

01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:40.000
project
to the Growing Regions Program 2023.

01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:42.000
Do I have a mover of a motion?

01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:43.000
Councillor Schonfelder

01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:45.000
- is that as per the recommendation?

01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:46.000
Thank you.

01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:48.000
And a seconder?

01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:49.000
Councillor Allen.

01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:52.000
Councillor Schonfelder, would you like
to speak to the motion?

01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:54.000
CR SCHONFELDER: Yes, please.

01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:59.000
I&amp;apos;d like to endorse the submission
of interest

01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:05.000
and subsequent funding application
to the Growing Regions Program 2023

01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:09.000
for the Winchelsea Pool Redevelopment
project on the following basis:

01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:13.000
$2.2 million
from the Growing Regions Program

01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:16.000
and $3.3 million
from Council&amp;apos;s existing asset

01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:19.000
renewal project allocation.

01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:24.000
This recommendation authorises the Chief
Executive Officer

01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:29.000
to execute a funding agreement on behalf
of Council should the application be

01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:30.000
successful.

01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:35.000
If Council accepts this recommendation,
officers will submit an expression

01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:38.000
of interest
and subsequent funding application

01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:41.000
for the Winchelsea Pool Redevelopment
project with the potential

01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:45.000
to reduce the amount
of asset renewal funds required.

01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:47.000
This would provide opportunities
for Council

01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:51.000
to address other renewal priorities and
for the Federal Government

01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:56.000
to partner in the key project
for Winchelsea and surrounds.

01:37:56.000 --> 01:38:01.000
A key consideration in this
is that the officers assess projects

01:38:01.000 --> 01:38:08.000
that met the GRP funding criteria are
aligned to Council&amp;apos;s strategic planning

01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:12.000
framework
and had leverage funding allocated.

01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:16.000
The Winchelsea Pool Redevelopment project
has been most suitable

01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:17.000
for this funding program.

01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:24.000
The project has asset renewal program
funding allocated within the 2023-24

01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:27.000
budget and will be submitted by late 2024.

01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:36.000
I encourage my colleagues
to support this item for endorsement.

01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:37.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:39.000
Councillor Allen, did you wish to speak?

01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:41.000
CR ALLEN: Thanks, Mayor.

01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:44.000
The Growing Regions Fund replaces
the previous Federal Government&amp;apos;s Building

01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:46.000
Better Regions fund.

01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:50.000
Under that fund, we were partly funded
for the work at Wurdi Baierr

01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:52.000
and the Stribling Reserve.

01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:57.000
This fund is earmarked for regional
and rural capital works program.

01:38:57.000 --> 01:39:00.000
The expression of interest,
as Councillor Schonfelder said,

01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:06.000
is report 2.2 million under the program
to support the redevelopment

01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:09.000
of the Winchelsea Pool and I think,
importantly,

01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:12.000
we should note that it must be submitted,
the EOI must be submitted

01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:14.000
by August the 1st.

01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:18.000
Now, if that&amp;apos;s successful, we will move
to stage 2 and we&amp;apos;ll require

01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:20.000
to submit a full application.

01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:24.000
The Deans Marsh Hall redevelopment
is another capital works program

01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:29.000
that would fit the criteria,
but as stated in the report,

01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:34.000
the final plans and costings
will not be finalised in time

01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:38.000
for the deadline for the EOI, which is,
of course, August the 1st.

01:39:40.000 --> 01:39:45.000
I support the application and,
if successful, it will release funds

01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:47.000
for additional asset renewal in the shire.

01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:51.000
Hopefully the bulk
of these funds can be directed

01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:54.000
to rural road renewal.

01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:57.000
Smaller scale projects can also be
considered.

01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:01.000
For example, the gymnasium
at the Stribling Reserve was retained

01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:03.000
and incorporated in the new complex.

01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:06.000
It was recently discovered to have mould
under the floor.

01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:10.000
If this is not addressed in the
short term, then there is a danger we

01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:14.000
will have a longer-term problem
with termites, and I&amp;apos;m sure there are many

01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:20.000
other such examples that Councillors can
quote that this additional renewal funding

01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:21.000
will be most welcome.

01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:23.000
Thank you.

01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:24.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:26.000
Would any other Councillors wish to speak?

01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:28.000
Councillor Barker?

01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:29.000
CR BARKER: Thanks, Mayor.

01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:32.000
Another funding opportunity,
more of an opportunity

01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:35.000
to grab some more taxpayer funds
because we have an addiction

01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:36.000
to other people&amp;apos;s money.

01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:38.000
Now,
what does this cost every Australian

01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:40.000
taxpayer?

01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:41.000
5 cents, 14 cents, $2?

01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:44.000
It&amp;apos;s a rhetorical question,
I don&amp;apos;t expect you to know.

01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:47.000
If this motion passes, I&amp;apos;d like
to thank every Australian taxpayer

01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:49.000
for their 14 cent contribution
to the renewal

01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:51.000
of the Winchelsea Pool redevelopment.

01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:54.000
Just know that every decision we make
in here creates externalities that I&amp;apos;ll

01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:56.000
continue to highlight.

01:40:56.000 --> 01:40:57.000
I won&amp;apos;t be supporting this.

01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:03.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Councillor Schonfelder,
did you have any closing remarks?

01:41:03.000 --> 01:41:08.000
CR SCHONFELDER: Just very briefly,
residents and taxpayers

01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:14.000
of the Surf Coast do pay income tax
which does go to Canberra and in a way,

01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:22.000
we can get some of our money back
with our successful application.

01:41:22.000 --> 01:41:25.000
The people of Winchelsea are very excited
about the pool

01:41:25.000 --> 01:41:30.000
and I thank the Council officers for
all the work they&amp;apos;ve done in relation

01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:33.000
to this project and I&amp;apos;d just like
to highlight the project

01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:37.000
will incorporate environmentally
sustainable design principles.

01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:41.000
If there&amp;apos;s an option
to use recycled materials in the project,

01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:46.000
it will be considered
and that&amp;apos;s a wonderful goal to have.

01:41:46.000 --> 01:41:48.000
Thank you, Mayor.

01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:49.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:51.000
We&amp;apos;ll now put the motion to the vote.

01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:53.000
All those in favour.

01:41:53.000 --> 01:41:54.000
And opposed.

01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:56.000
And the motion is carried 7-1

01:41:56.000 --> 01:42:02.000
- no, sorry, not 7-1, 6-1.

01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:04.000
Apologies for my mathematics.

01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:06.000
We have two Councillors that aren&amp;apos;t
with us.

01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:10.000
So apologies for that, but it&amp;apos;s carried.

01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:16.000
We now move on to item 4.3,
TAC 2023 Local Government Grant Program.

01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:19.000
The purpose of this report is
to inform Council of Transport

01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:22.000
and Accident Commission grant
opportunities and seek approval

01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:26.000
to submit applications for pedestrian
and cycling safety improvements.

01:42:26.000 --> 01:42:29.000
Do we have a mover of a motion?

01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:30.000
Councillor Gazzard

01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:32.000
- is that as per the recommendation?

01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:33.000
CR GAZZARD: Yes.

01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:35.000
MAYOR PATTISON: And a seconder?

01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:36.000
Councillor Stapleton.

01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:38.000
Would you like to speak,
Councillor Gazzard?

01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:40.000
CR GAZZARD: Yes, please.

01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:43.000
This is a really exciting opportunity
for a Local Government Grant Program.

01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:47.000
So pedestrian
and cyclist safety improvements

01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:51.000
along the Surf Coast Highway service road
between Baines Crescent

01:42:51.000 --> 01:43:00.000
to Bristol Road are applying for $100,000
from TAC and more excitingly,

01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:03.000
an options analysis study
to develop a safe cycling connection

01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:08.000
between Torquay and Geelong,
which would really be so amazing.

01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:12.000
Investment
in cycling has multiple benefits,

01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:16.000
including curbing emissions,
improving air quality, increasing rates

01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:20.000
of active transport, which reduce risk
of disease and enhance mental health.

01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:24.000
Research has found that cycling
is the happiest way to travel.

01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:28.000
A UK government report found the average
benefit cost ratio for walking

01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:35.000
and cycling projects deliver benefits
of 13 to 35 times the cost.

01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:38.000
In Aotearoa, New Zealand,
transport planners estimate

01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:42.000
money spent on high-quality
cycling infrastructure yields benefits

01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:45.000
between 10 to 25 times the cost.

01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:50.000
A study in London found that an increase
in cycling trips significantly contributes

01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:53.000
to the emergence
of new local shops and businesses.

01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:55.000
So I think this will be

01:43:55.000 --> 01:44:02.000
- anything that improves cycling strategy
and safety in our shire is very beneficial

01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:04.000
to the community.

01:44:04.000 --> 01:44:05.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:08.000
Councillor Stapleton, did you wish
to speak?

01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:09.000
CR STAPLETON: Yes.

01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:11.000
I don&amp;apos;t have a lot to add.

01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:12.000
This one is a no-brainer really.

01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:15.000
The TAC is offering grant in a competitive
process and Surf Coast

01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:17.000
is well placed for success.

01:44:17.000 --> 01:44:21.000
It aligns with strategy 5
in our Council plan to make it easier

01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:26.000
for people to move around our towns and
in nature without relying on cars

01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:30.000
and it also, importantly, aligns
with the G21 Transport Strategy,

01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:34.000
which was launched just this week
and advocates for increased use

01:44:34.000 --> 01:44:38.000
of active transport within and
between local areas as one

01:44:38.000 --> 01:44:40.000
of its key priorities.

01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:44.000
The selected projects are well considered
and we know that the need is there

01:44:44.000 --> 01:44:46.000
for our community.

01:44:46.000 --> 01:44:49.000
There is currently no safe way to ride
from Torquay to Geelong.

01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:53.000
If the funding application is successful,
Council would take detailed designs

01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:55.000
to the community for feedback.

01:44:55.000 --> 01:44:58.000
And lastly, it would be great
to see even more investment

01:44:58.000 --> 01:45:01.000
in cycling infrastructure
and improved pathways for pedestrians

01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:06.000
and hopefully there are many more TAC
grants just like this to come.

01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:09.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Would any
other Councillors like to speak

01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:10.000
to the motion?

01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:12.000
Councillor Bodsworth?

01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:14.000
CR BODSWORTH: Thanks, Mayor, very briefly.

01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:19.000
I definitely welcome the opportunity
to support these grant applications.

01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:23.000
I&amp;apos;m really pleased
to see our Safer Cycling Strategy being

01:45:23.000 --> 01:45:28.000
put to good use
and also our existing Pathway Strategy

01:45:28.000 --> 01:45:29.000
as well.

01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:31.000
And with regard

01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:34.000
- I thank Councillor Gazzard
for those statistics relating to cycling.

01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:39.000
And as Councillor Stapleton mentioned,
the G21 Transport Strategy contains some

01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:45.000
really interesting projections
on delays in traffic, stuck in traffic

01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:51.000
under a business as usual scenario,
so it&amp;apos;s gone to a lot of effort

01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:55.000
to capture or to sort of project the kinds
of delays that people

01:45:55.000 --> 01:46:01.000
will be experiencing stuck in traffic
on our current trajectory with traffic

01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:02.000
on the roads.

01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:11.000
So in the last census, in the Surf Coast
municipality 0.6% of people travelled

01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:18.000
by bike to work on census day,
being online with the Victorian average.

01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:22.000
So we&amp;apos;ve got a very tiny percentage
of people currently travelling to work

01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:24.000
by bike

01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:27.000
- a greater percentage travelling
to school, but still fairly small

01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:30.000
- and, you know,
there&amp;apos;s just fantastic benefits there

01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:34.000
for the taking if we manage
to provide the safe connections and a lot

01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:38.000
of the people who would potentially ride
a bike, a lot

01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:43.000
of the trips that people undertake
by car are very short, under 5 Ks,

01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:48.000
totally doable by bike,
but it&amp;apos;s safety that&amp;apos;s the main barrier

01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:51.000
for people taking those trips by bike.

01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:56.000
So it&amp;apos;s about 19 Ks between Torquay centre
and Geelong centre by bike,

01:46:56.000 --> 01:47:01.000
so that&amp;apos;s a pretty easy hour bike ride,
particularly on an e-bike,

01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:06.000
and according to the transport strategy,
that hour could well be time that people

01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:09.000
are spending stuck
in traffic in a vehicle anyway.

01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:13.000
So, yeah, it&amp;apos;s a great option
and I hope we can follow this through.

01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:15.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Sounds good.

01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:17.000
And Councillor Barker?

01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:18.000
CR BARKER: Thanks, Mayor.

01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:20.000
I&amp;apos;m a cyclist.

01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:22.000
I give as much room as I can
to cyclists when I&amp;apos;m driving cars

01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:25.000
and trucks and I know the shared use
of roads are a safety concern

01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:27.000
for many cyclists.

01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:30.000
There will always be room to improve ways
for cyclists to move

01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:32.000
through the municipality,
but as we move head first

01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:36.000
into a recession, we need
to stop discretionary spending,

01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:38.000
not only here but every level
of government.

01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:41.000
I&amp;apos;d be very happy
to support infrastructure spending where

01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:46.000
the funding source is voluntarily raised,
perhaps by a collective of cyclists,

01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:50.000
as this would support a philosophy
that I support, the voluntary interaction

01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:52.000
between consenting adults.

01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:53.000
But what are grants?

01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:56.000
An opportunity for us to reach out
to another level of government

01:47:56.000 --> 01:48:00.000
for taxpayer funds because we can&amp;apos;t afford
to pay for everything required

01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:01.000
of us or what we want to do.

01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:04.000
In this case,
it highlights how our vehicle TAC fees

01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:07.000
attached to registration are far too high
when not only do they pay

01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:10.000
for multimillion dollar advertising
campaigns, but also directing $130,000

01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:14.000
to us for a cycling infrastructure works
and a study.

01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:18.000
All this from a State Government body that
is part of a state with record-breaking

01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:21.000
levels of debt that dwarves multiple
other states combined, yet apparently

01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:24.000
they can fritter away even more money
to us here.

01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:27.000
Support this if you want
to grow the tax burden

01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:30.000
on every other Victorian during a cost
of living crisis or you can join me

01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:33.000
in saying no
to financially unsustainable actions.

01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:35.000
That&amp;apos;s all.

01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:37.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:39.000
Councillor Gazzard,
did you have any closing remarks?

01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:41.000
No.

01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:42.000
We&amp;apos;ll now put the motion to the vote.

01:48:42.000 --> 01:48:44.000
All those in favour.

01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:46.000
And the motion is carried.

01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:50.000
Oh, all those against, sorry.

01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:52.000
I&amp;apos;m sorry about that.

01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:54.000
Anyway, moving along, apologies.

01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:56.000
Thank you.

01:48:56.000 --> 01:49:06.000
The next item on the agenda,
Grants Mod Program Review.

01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:10.000
This report seeks Council&amp;apos;s endorsement
of two new grant streams

01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:12.000
and recommends changes
to the Grant Program guidelines.

01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:15.000
Do we have a mover?

01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:16.000
Councillor Allen

01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:18.000
- is that as per the recommendation?

01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:19.000
CR ALLEN: As per recommendation.

01:49:19.000 --> 01:49:21.000
MAYOR PATTISON: And a seconder?

01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:22.000
Councillor Gazzard.

01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:24.000
Would you like to speak, Councillor?

01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:26.000
CR ALLEN: Thanks, Mayor.

01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:28.000
I always find it a pleasure to speak
to the grants program,

01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:31.000
a program I support,
with the only regret being that

01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:34.000
we did not allocate sufficient funds.

01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:39.000
As a past recipient of grant funding,
naturally prior to my term on Council,

01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:43.000
I have firsthand knowledge
and appreciation of the importance

01:49:43.000 --> 01:49:46.000
of these grants
to community not-for-profit

01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:49.000
voluntary organisations linked
to the needs

01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:53.000
of their community in the most direct
of ways.

01:49:53.000 --> 01:49:57.000
The grants do create a more meaningful
partnership between the Council

01:49:57.000 --> 01:50:01.000
and the community
and it enables the Council,

01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:05.000
through the grant guidelines,
to direct funding towards priorities

01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:08.000
in the Council plan.

01:50:08.000 --> 01:50:11.000
A hypothetical example
is a project that promotes male

01:50:11.000 --> 01:50:14.000
participation in the performing arts.

01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:19.000
This would meet the established grants
criteria and meet two Council priorities,

01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:21.000
health and gender equity.

01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:27.000
The change to remove Councillors
from the approval process has been

01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:31.000
a positive one, speeding up the awarding
of grants and getting resources

01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:35.000
into the hands
of the community in a more timely manner.

01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:38.000
To date,
we have funded 55 projects totalling

01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:44.000
very close to $140,000,
with a wide variety of projects reflecting

01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:46.000
the range of streams.

01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:50.000
For example, in my ward,
the Lorne Gardening Group,

01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:52.000
the Historical Society
and the bowls club were successful,

01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:57.000
and in Deans Marsh tree carving
and the solstice art exhibition reflect

01:50:57.000 --> 01:51:00.000
the range of streams that I referred to.

01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:03.000
In Lorne, a program was funded
to target any year 10

01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:07.000
to 12 students in the shire who wish
to learn more about the means

01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:09.000
to reduce examination stress.

01:51:11.000 --> 01:51:17.000
The Quick Response and the Artist
and Creative streams were very popular,

01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:19.000
both being significantly oversubscribed.

01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:24.000
I am very pleased
to see that several streams

01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:32.000
require a community/organisation
co-contribution in funds and/or in kind,

01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:37.000
varying from 50 to 30%
of the project value.

01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:40.000
This co-contribution
demonstrates that the project has real

01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:43.000
community support and value.

01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:48.000
I was going to say put your money
where your mouth is, but I decided

01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:50.000
against it.

01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:54.000
I have much pleasure
in supporting the recommendation and it

01:51:54.000 --> 01:51:56.000
is very pleasing
to see how well the changes introduced

01:51:56.000 --> 01:52:01.000
into the program have been received
in 2022/23.

01:52:01.000 --> 01:52:02.000
Thank you.

01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:04.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:06.000
Councillor Gazzard, did you wish to speak
to the motion?

01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:08.000
CR GAZZARD: Yes, I&amp;apos;ll support the motion.

01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:12.000
I think the grants program is amazing
and anything we can do to streamline

01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:18.000
and make the funds available to community
as quickly as possible is to be endorsed.

01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:26.000
So we&amp;apos;ve got 55 community projects funded,
$100,000 of funding provided and I really

01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:30.000
like the emphasis on municipal health
and wellbeing and note that 27

01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:36.000
of the 96 project applications had
a health and wellbeing focus.

01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:44.000
The specific standalone stream of health
and wellbeing grants I think is

01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:51.000
to be commended and looking
at the previous grants that we&amp;apos;ve had,

01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:55.000
it&amp;apos;s really impressive seeing the focus
on men&amp;apos;s wellbeing, Men&amp;apos;s Sheds,

01:52:55.000 --> 01:53:02.000
play groups, sports, a lot of school-based
mental health programs

01:53:02.000 --> 01:53:07.000
and environmental tree planting
and energy saving, so a shout-out

01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:15.000
to the Surf Coast Energy Group,
SANE and Torquay Landcare Group.

01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:20.000
So I am very happy
to support this ongoing grants program.

01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:21.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Councillor Barker?

01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:23.000
CR BARKER: Thanks, Mayor.

01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:27.000
I too am pleased to speak
to grants programs for a different reason.

01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:30.000
If this recommendation was simply
to note projects funded

01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:33.000
through the grant program,
I wouldn&amp;apos;t have had an issue supporting it

01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:37.000
, but given it&amp;apos;s endorsing methods
directing how involuntarily taken funds

01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:38.000
- ie, rates

01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:41.000
- are redistributed
to the winners selected by Council,

01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:43.000
I will be voting
against the recommendation.

01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:46.000
This is just another example
of where people are being paid

01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:49.000
by involuntarily taken funds
and have been insulated

01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:51.000
from the economic turmoil experienced
by many over the

01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:55.000
past few years are carrying on
with a business as usual mindset.

01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:58.000
That is not the reality that I see.

01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:01.000
If you are happy
to continue picking winners and losers,

01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:03.000
go ahead and vote for this recommendation.

01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:08.000
If, though, like me, you see taking money
from some and redistributing to others

01:54:08.000 --> 01:54:11.000
is morally wrong, I invite you
to join me voting

01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:13.000
against this recommendation.

01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:18.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Councillor Stapleton,
would you like to speak to the motion?

01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:20.000
CR STAPLETON: Yes, I&amp;apos;ll say a few words.

01:54:20.000 --> 01:54:22.000
Thanks, Mayor.

01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:24.000
So the grants program
is a really great program

01:54:24.000 --> 01:54:28.000
and it&amp;apos;s been running in its new format
for the past year.

01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:30.000
If you want
to know what impact grants have

01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:34.000
in helping our community to thrive,
have a read through the grants awarded

01:54:34.000 --> 01:54:35.000
during the past 12 months.

01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:40.000
It&amp;apos;s staggering to see the variety
and number of community organisations

01:54:40.000 --> 01:54:44.000
all achieving such great outcomes
and supporting each other

01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:47.000
and the broader community
through this grants program.

01:54:47.000 --> 01:54:51.000
There is clearly the demand and interest
from residents and local groups

01:54:51.000 --> 01:54:54.000
for these grants to continue
and I&amp;apos;m pleased that Council

01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:58.000
is in a position to be able
to support them.

01:54:58.000 --> 01:55:02.000
It&amp;apos;s also important to note that an audit
of Council&amp;apos;s grants program was undertaken

01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:05.000
in April/May this year
to consider the adequacy

01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:09.000
of Council&amp;apos;s policies, procedures
and controls for the overall management

01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:10.000
of grant funding.

01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:14.000
While the audit findings were generally
good, it did make some recommendations

01:55:14.000 --> 01:55:18.000
which will help Council
to continuously improve the grants program

01:55:18.000 --> 01:55:22.000
and I look forward to seeing some
of these implemented in coming years.

01:55:22.000 --> 01:55:24.000
Thank you.

01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:29.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Councillor Allen,
did you have any closing remarks?

01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:31.000
CR ALLEN: No, thanks, Mayor.

01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:33.000
MAYOR PATTISON: We&amp;apos;ll now put the motion
to the vote.

01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:35.000
All those in favour.

01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:36.000
And all those opposed.

01:55:36.000 --> 01:55:38.000
And the motion is carried.

01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:46.000
We now move on to 4.5,
Project Budget Adjustments

01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:47.000
and Cash Reserve Transfers

01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:49.000
- July 2023.

01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:52.000
This report is presented
for Council ratification and approval

01:55:52.000 --> 01:55:56.000
of proposed project budget adjustments
and cash reserve transfers

01:55:56.000 --> 01:55:59.000
relating to the 2022-23 financial year.

01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:01.000
Do I have a mover?

01:56:01.000 --> 01:56:02.000
Councillor Barker

01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:04.000
- is it as per the recommendation?

01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:05.000
CR BARKER: Yes, Mayor.

01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:07.000
MAYOR PATTISON: And a seconder?

01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:08.000
Councillor Stapleton.

01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:10.000
Did you want to speak to it,
Councillor Barker?

01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:12.000
CR BARKER: No, thank you.

01:56:12.000 --> 01:56:13.000
MAYOR PATTISON: No.

01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:15.000
Councillor Stapleton?

01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:16.000
CR STAPLETON: I&amp;apos;ll say a few words.

01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:18.000
Thanks, Mayor.

01:56:18.000 --> 01:56:21.000
This item is to provide transparency
for Council and the community

01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:24.000
around movements in budgets
for various projects across the shire

01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:26.000
and changes to cash reserves.

01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:29.000
You will see in the report a greater
number of projects than usual due

01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:31.000
to the end of the financial year
and transfers of funding

01:56:31.000 --> 01:56:34.000
from projects that are not progressing
at this time.

01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:36.000
There is just one item I would like
to highlight, which

01:56:36.000 --> 01:56:42.000
is the Point Roadknight Drainage Outfall,
where it is recommended returning $550,000

01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:44.000
to the Asset Renewal Reserve.

01:56:44.000 --> 01:56:50.000
This renewal project had 700,000 allocated
to it, but the cost estimate obtained via

01:56:50.000 --> 01:56:54.000
a quantity surveyor is 1.8 million,
clearly significantly higher than

01:56:54.000 --> 01:56:57.000
the project budget allows.

01:56:57.000 --> 01:57:00.000
So it is proposed that Council returns a
large portion of the budget back

01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:04.000
to the Asset Renewal Reserve given
the current scope

01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:08.000
of the project cannot be completed
within this allocation.

01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:11.000
It is unfortunate that the project cannot
proceed at this time,

01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:14.000
but the costs are well
above what Council had budgeted.

01:57:14.000 --> 01:57:16.000
It sounds familiar.

01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:19.000
There will be people in the community
disappointed about this,

01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:23.000
but it&amp;apos;s a complex job,
with the pipe running under sand dunes

01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:26.000
and potentially impacting
culturally sensitive areas,

01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:28.000
so it&amp;apos;s not an easy fix.

01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:31.000
Fortunately, one
of the two parts has been functioning well

01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:35.000
for at least the last 12 months
without any reported flooding issues

01:57:35.000 --> 01:57:39.000
and we certainly hope that continues
to be the case.

01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:41.000
The funds left on the project
will enable officers

01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:44.000
to progress the cultural heritage
management permit requirements

01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:47.000
and associated authority approvals.

01:57:47.000 --> 01:57:50.000
Then the proposed renewal works can be
considered as part

01:57:50.000 --> 01:57:55.000
of future renewal program budget
allocations and I would hope to see that

01:57:55.000 --> 01:57:57.000
in next year&amp;apos;s budget, all going well.

01:57:57.000 --> 01:57:59.000
Thank you.

01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:00.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:58:00.000 --> 01:58:02.000
Any other Councillors?

01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:03.000
Councillor Bodsworth?

01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:05.000
CR BODSWORTH: Thanks, Mayor.

01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:06.000
There are a couple of

01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:10.000
- first, I thank Councillor Stapleton
for raising the Point Roadknight storm

01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:12.000
water pipes one, which
is an interesting situation.

01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:14.000
Two others that I would like to

01:58:14.000 --> 01:58:16.000
- three others that I&amp;apos;d like
to quickly mention.

01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:20.000
One is there&amp;apos;s information in there
about revenue raised

01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:21.000
through litter enforcement.

01:58:21.000 --> 01:58:24.000
I think it&amp;apos;s great that we&amp;apos;ve increased
our capacity

01:58:24.000 --> 01:58:27.000
to enforce litter regulations.

01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:33.000
Another one was about Anglesea arts space
and an amount there relating to commission

01:58:33.000 --> 01:58:37.000
from arts sales
and I just think that highlights the value

01:58:37.000 --> 01:58:41.000
of the Anglesea arts space,
which Council effectively sponsors

01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:44.000
through paying the lease for the building.

01:58:44.000 --> 01:58:47.000
It&amp;apos;s a space of huge value
to the community and it&amp;apos;s great

01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:54.000
to see that the artists who are usually
upcoming artists selling enough work

01:58:54.000 --> 01:58:57.000
to provide those commission figures.

01:58:57.000 --> 01:59:01.000
And the other one I&amp;apos;d like to mention
is the grant funding

01:59:01.000 --> 01:59:07.000
for Painkalac Creek flood mitigation
modelling and adaptation planning,

01:59:07.000 --> 01:59:10.000
so State Government grant funding,
and I&amp;apos;d particularly like

01:59:10.000 --> 01:59:13.000
to acknowledge the advocacy
of the Aireys Inlet community

01:59:13.000 --> 01:59:19.000
around the need
to balance environmental concerns

01:59:19.000 --> 01:59:24.000
and flooding risks to property
with the Painkalac Creek.

01:59:24.000 --> 01:59:25.000
Thanks.

01:59:25.000 --> 01:59:27.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

01:59:27.000 --> 01:59:29.000
Councillor Barker, no closing remarks?

01:59:29.000 --> 01:59:30.000
We&amp;apos;ll now

01:59:30.000 --> 01:59:32.000
- oh, sorry, Councillor Allen.

01:59:32.000 --> 01:59:35.000
CR ALLEN: We&amp;apos;re just having some power
issues here with our computers.

01:59:35.000 --> 01:59:39.000
They aren&amp;apos;t turned on for some reason.

01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:48.000
From the report, I note that $1,719,163
net is being transferred

01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:50.000
to our cash reserves.

01:59:50.000 --> 01:59:53.000
I&amp;apos;d just like to point out that this
is not unusual at this time of the year,

01:59:53.000 --> 01:59:56.000
reflecting the end of the financial year.

01:59:56.000 --> 02:00:00.000
Note in table 1 there are examples
of funds returned to source

02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:03.000
as the projects are incomplete
for a variety

02:00:03.000 --> 02:00:08.000
of reasons explained in the report
to be allocated at a later date.

02:00:08.000 --> 02:00:09.000
Projects varying in size

02:00:09.000 --> 02:00:14.000
- for example, $550,000
to the Point Roadknight Drainage Outfall;

02:00:14.000 --> 02:00:22.000
$119,553 from the Agile Workplace project;
and just over $9,000 for the completion

02:00:22.000 --> 02:00:28.000
of the Telstra pit on the Birregurra-Deans
Marsh Pathway.

02:00:28.000 --> 02:00:33.000
There is a significant allocation
of funds, $698,892,

02:00:33.000 --> 02:00:36.000
to the Surf Coast Aquatic
and Health Centre

02:00:36.000 --> 02:00:40.000
from the annual interest earned
from the upfront grant funding

02:00:40.000 --> 02:00:46.000
as per the funding agreement;
examples where the funds are not expended

02:00:46.000 --> 02:00:50.000
due to a lack of tenders and others being
above the allocated budget

02:00:50.000 --> 02:00:53.000
- for example, netball renewal works
at the Eastern Reserve

02:00:53.000 --> 02:00:55.000
and the Stribling Reserve.

02:00:55.000 --> 02:00:59.000
Hopefully these projects
will be completed in the next financial

02:00:59.000 --> 02:01:00.000
year.

02:01:00.000 --> 02:01:03.000
I also note that over $200,000
has been returned

02:01:03.000 --> 02:01:09.000
to the accumulated unallocated cash
reserve due to project savings.

02:01:09.000 --> 02:01:13.000
It is my hope that officers
will consider these savings

02:01:13.000 --> 02:01:18.000
as a potential source of funds
to complete unfinished projects.

02:01:18.000 --> 02:01:22.000
I can count on five that come
to mind in the Lorne ward.

02:01:22.000 --> 02:01:25.000
Thank you.

02:01:25.000 --> 02:01:26.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

02:01:26.000 --> 02:01:29.000
And thank you, Governance, for sorting
out our power issues.

02:01:29.000 --> 02:01:31.000
We will plod on.

02:01:31.000 --> 02:01:32.000
Gary, has that been resolved?

02:01:32.000 --> 02:01:34.000
We&amp;apos;re all good?

02:01:34.000 --> 02:01:38.000
We&amp;apos;ve sorted it out because we&amp;apos;ve moved
to the other one, so don&amp;apos;t worry about it.

02:01:38.000 --> 02:01:40.000
Councillor Barker,
you didn&amp;apos;t have any closing remarks,

02:01:40.000 --> 02:01:42.000
did you?

02:01:42.000 --> 02:01:43.000
No.

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We&amp;apos;ll now put the motion to the vote.

02:01:45.000 --> 02:01:47.000
Gary and Libby, we&amp;apos;re going to vote.

02:01:47.000 --> 02:01:48.000
We&amp;apos;ll now put the motion to the vote.

02:01:48.000 --> 02:01:50.000
All those in favour.

02:01:50.000 --> 02:01:53.000
And opposed.

02:01:53.000 --> 02:01:56.000
Just to clarify, we&amp;apos;re all in favour, yes?

02:01:56.000 --> 02:01:58.000
Yes, great, awesome, and the motion
is carried.

02:02:00.000 --> 02:02:02.000
CR BARKER: I&amp;apos;m naturally an
agreeable person.

02:02:02.000 --> 02:02:04.000
MAYOR PATTISON: No, no, I know.

02:02:04.000 --> 02:02:05.000
I just

02:02:05.000 --> 02:02:08.000
- I couldn&amp;apos;t see
because people weren&amp;apos;t quite moving

02:02:08.000 --> 02:02:11.000
at the same time and I wasn&amp;apos;t sure
if there was some confusion there,

02:02:11.000 --> 02:02:14.000
so I just wanted to make sure we&amp;apos;re all
on the same page and that&amp;apos;s wonderful.

02:02:14.000 --> 02:02:20.000
4.6, Award of Contract T23-031 Road Works
and Resealing Horseshoe Bend Road Torquay.

02:02:20.000 --> 02:02:24.000
The purpose of this report is
to inform Council of the contract awarded

02:02:24.000 --> 02:02:27.000
by the CEO
under an authorisation provided via

02:02:27.000 --> 02:02:32.000
resolution
at the 28 March 2023 Council meeting.

02:02:32.000 --> 02:02:35.000
MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: Do we need
to take a break while we sort this out?

02:02:35.000 --> 02:02:38.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Do we need to suspend
for a moment while you guys sort

02:02:38.000 --> 02:02:39.000
out your computers?

02:02:39.000 --> 02:02:41.000
Gary, are you okay

02:02:41.000 --> 02:02:42.000
- Councillor Allen, sorry.

02:02:42.000 --> 02:02:44.000
CR ALLEN: No, Mayor, I&amp;apos;m not.

02:02:44.000 --> 02:02:45.000
Anyway, you soldier on.

02:02:45.000 --> 02:02:48.000
MAYOR PATTISON: But we can pause
for a moment if there&amp;apos;s a need to.

02:02:48.000 --> 02:02:51.000
CR BODSWORTH: If you&amp;apos;re happy
to work through adversity,

02:02:51.000 --> 02:02:52.000
we can continue.

02:02:52.000 --> 02:02:54.000
CR ALLEN: It&amp;apos;s alright, go on.

02:02:54.000 --> 02:02:56.000
I have some battery left, but not a lot.

02:02:56.000 --> 02:02:57.000
OFFICER: It will die.

02:02:57.000 --> 02:02:59.000
CR ALLEN: It will die soon.

02:02:59.000 --> 02:03:00.000
OFFICER: Yes, you should get it

02:03:00.000 --> 02:03:02.000
- MAYOR PATTISON: We&amp;apos;ll just pause
for a moment.

02:03:02.000 --> 02:03:04.000
SPEAKER: I move that we suspend.

02:03:04.000 --> 02:03:07.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Can we just pause?

02:03:07.000 --> 02:03:08.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Good?

02:03:42.000 --> 02:03:44.000
Okay.

02:03:44.000 --> 02:03:46.000
We&amp;apos;ll resume with item 4.6.

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So do I have a mover of a motion?

02:03:49.000 --> 02:03:52.000
Councillor Schonfelder,
you&amp;apos;re moving the motion?

02:03:52.000 --> 02:03:54.000
Yes.

02:03:54.000 --> 02:03:55.000
And that&amp;apos;s as per the recommendation?

02:03:55.000 --> 02:03:57.000
CR SCHONFELDER: Yes, Mayor.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Yes, great.

02:03:58.000 --> 02:04:00.000
And do I have a seconder?

02:04:00.000 --> 02:04:01.000
Councillor Gazzard.

02:04:01.000 --> 02:04:04.000
Councillor Schonfelder, would you like
to speak?

02:04:04.000 --> 02:04:06.000
CR SCHONFELDER: Yes, please, Mayor.

02:04:06.000 --> 02:04:09.000
The Council notes the award of T23-031
Roadworks

02:04:09.000 --> 02:04:17.000
and Resealing Horseshoe Bend Road, Torquay
to Fulton Hogan Industries Pty Ltd

02:04:17.000 --> 02:04:19.000
for 1.26 million.

02:04:23.000 --> 02:04:27.000
The award
of the contract has allowed Council

02:04:27.000 --> 02:04:30.000
to renew the road surface
and undertake road safety improvements

02:04:30.000 --> 02:04:33.000
along Horseshoe Bend Road
between South Beach Road

02:04:33.000 --> 02:04:35.000
and Quay Boulevard.

02:04:35.000 --> 02:04:41.000
Based on past project experience,
expertise and the project risks, the award

02:04:41.000 --> 02:04:47.000
of the contract to Fulton Hogan Industries
is expected to deliver the best value

02:04:47.000 --> 02:04:49.000
for money outcome for Council.

02:04:49.000 --> 02:04:52.000
A public tender process was conducted
in accordance

02:04:52.000 --> 02:04:55.000
with Council&amp;apos;s procurement policy.

02:04:55.000 --> 02:04:57.000
A total
of three contractors submitted tenders

02:04:57.000 --> 02:04:59.000
for this contract.

02:04:59.000 --> 02:05:02.000
Each submission
was assessed against pre-determined

02:05:02.000 --> 02:05:06.000
evaluation criteria,
including price and non-price criteria.

02:05:06.000 --> 02:05:13.000
The contract will operate on a lump sum
for the duration of the contract period.

02:05:13.000 --> 02:05:19.000
Council has external grant funding
to undertake road safety improvement works

02:05:19.000 --> 02:05:23.000
and a combination of Local Roads
and Community Infrastructure Program

02:05:23.000 --> 02:05:27.000
and renewal funding
to renew the road surface

02:05:27.000 --> 02:05:30.000
with an asphalt overlay.

02:05:30.000 --> 02:05:34.000
I know the road very well,
Horseshoe Bend Road, and it&amp;apos;s one

02:05:34.000 --> 02:05:38.000
of my favourite roads, to be honest,
and like many people who live

02:05:38.000 --> 02:05:45.000
in our wonderful community, I enjoy seeing
all the Norfolk pine trees in the

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different areas adjacent to this road.

02:05:49.000 --> 02:05:56.000
So I hope it goes well making this road
safer and better for our community.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

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Councillor Gazzard?

02:06:01.000 --> 02:06:02.000
No?

02:06:02.000 --> 02:06:04.000
Would any other councillors like to speak?

02:06:04.000 --> 02:06:06.000
Councillor Barker?

02:06:06.000 --> 02:06:09.000
CR BARKER: I&amp;apos;ll support this
recommendation as it&amp;apos;s simply for noting,

02:06:09.000 --> 02:06:12.000
so technically happy to support,
but looking at the works proposed,

02:06:12.000 --> 02:06:15.000
I don&amp;apos;t think it&amp;apos;s entirely necessary
and we should be seeking

02:06:15.000 --> 02:06:17.000
to maintain the worst
of our road networks first.

02:06:17.000 --> 02:06:19.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

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Any other Councillors wish to speak?

02:06:21.000 --> 02:06:22.000
No.

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Councillor Schonfelder,
any closing remarks?

02:06:24.000 --> 02:06:26.000
CR SCHONFELDER: No, thank you.

02:06:26.000 --> 02:06:27.000
MAYOR PATTISON: No.

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We&amp;apos;ll put the motion to the vote.

02:06:29.000 --> 02:06:30.000
All those in favour.

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And the motion is carried unanimously.

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We now move on to 4.7,
Draft G21 Regional Football

02:06:36.000 --> 02:06:38.000
- that&amp;apos;s soccer

02:06:38.000 --> 02:06:40.000
- Strategy for 2023-2033.

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This report is presented to inform Council
of the Draft G21 Regional Football

02:06:45.000 --> 02:06:49.000
Strategy which
will be publicly exhibited for a six-week

02:06:49.000 --> 02:06:51.000
period.

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Do we have a mover of a motion?

02:06:52.000 --> 02:06:54.000
Councillor Gazzard

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- as per the recommendation?

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CR GAZZARD: Yes.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Yes.

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And a seconder?

02:07:00.000 --> 02:07:01.000
Councillor Bodsworth.

02:07:01.000 --> 02:07:03.000
Councillor Gazzard, would you like
to speak?

02:07:03.000 --> 02:07:05.000
CR GAZZARD: Yes, thank you.

02:07:05.000 --> 02:07:07.000
I endorse the motion,
so the Draft G21 Regional Football

02:07:07.000 --> 02:07:10.000
Strategy to go on public exhibition
for six weeks.

02:07:10.000 --> 02:07:15.000
I think this is a really exciting strategy
to reduce the risk of gender inequity

02:07:15.000 --> 02:07:20.000
in football and futsal
and reduce stagnation with G21 regions

02:07:20.000 --> 02:07:22.000
of ongoing growth.

02:07:22.000 --> 02:07:27.000
Excitingly,
the strategy reports a 114% increase

02:07:27.000 --> 02:07:29.000
in female participation in football,

02:07:29.000 --> 02:07:35.000
- my British husband calls it football,
but soccer for us

02:07:35.000 --> 02:07:41.000
- and 25% of all participants are female
with an aim to get to 50%

02:07:41.000 --> 02:07:42.000
for gender equity.

02:07:42.000 --> 02:07:46.000
We know that female footballers are paid
less, promoted less

02:07:46.000 --> 02:07:50.000
and receive less public interest than
their male counterparts,

02:07:50.000 --> 02:07:55.000
but excitingly, in the FIFA Women&amp;apos;s World
Cup records are being broken.

02:07:55.000 --> 02:08:00.000
117,000
spectators attended the first two games

02:08:00.000 --> 02:08:05.000
of the 2023 FIFA Women&amp;apos;s World Cup
on Thursday in Auckland and Sydney,

02:08:05.000 --> 02:08:10.000
so 42,000 fans in New Zealand,
which was the

02:08:10.000 --> 02:08:15.000
- set the record for the biggest ever crowd
at a soccer game in Aotearoa, New Zealand,

02:08:15.000 --> 02:08:18.000
men or women&amp;apos;s,
the previous record being 37,000,

02:08:18.000 --> 02:08:24.000
and 75,000 fans attended in Sydney,
which smashed the record

02:08:24.000 --> 02:08:27.000
for women&amp;apos;s soccer game attendance
in Australia.

02:08:27.000 --> 02:08:34.000
Viewership is set to cross 2 billion,
up from 1.1 billion in 2019.

02:08:34.000 --> 02:08:40.000
I think the notion that men&amp;apos;s sports are
better, faster and more interesting

02:08:40.000 --> 02:08:44.000
is incorrect and it&amp;apos;s really exciting
to see more female participation

02:08:44.000 --> 02:08:47.000
in sports.

02:08:47.000 --> 02:08:50.000
If you haven&amp;apos;t seen the French ad
that went

02:08:50.000 --> 02:08:54.000
- the France ad that went viral,
it&amp;apos;s really worth seeing.

02:08:54.000 --> 02:09:02.000
There&amp;apos;s footage of Les Bleues,
their soccer team, really fast paced,

02:09:02.000 --> 02:09:04.000
exciting, scoring

02:09:04.000 --> 02:09:08.000
- high-scoring game and then it reverses
and it was actually AI edited

02:09:08.000 --> 02:09:11.000
and it was all women&amp;apos;s,
it was the women&amp;apos;s team.

02:09:11.000 --> 02:09:13.000
So you should all watch it, I think.

02:09:13.000 --> 02:09:20.000
It really highlights the widespread sexism
and misogyny in sports.

02:09:20.000 --> 02:09:23.000
Anyway, so back to the strategy,
I think this is really exciting

02:09:23.000 --> 02:09:26.000
and endorse.

02:09:26.000 --> 02:09:28.000
Thank you.

02:09:28.000 --> 02:09:29.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

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Councillor Bodsworth, would you like
to speak?

02:09:31.000 --> 02:09:33.000
CR BODSWORTH: No, thanks, Mayor.

02:09:33.000 --> 02:09:34.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

02:09:34.000 --> 02:09:36.000
Any other Councillors?

02:09:36.000 --> 02:09:37.000
Councillor Barker?

02:09:37.000 --> 02:09:39.000
CR BARKER: Thanks, Mayor.

02:09:39.000 --> 02:09:41.000
Given the City
of Greater Geelong have pulled support

02:09:41.000 --> 02:09:43.000
of G21,
I think it&amp;apos;s time we reconsider our

02:09:43.000 --> 02:09:45.000
connection with the organisation.

02:09:45.000 --> 02:09:48.000
I don&amp;apos;t think it&amp;apos;s worthwhile continuing
with the association with G21 and I

02:09:48.000 --> 02:09:51.000
will be voting against this motion
as a precursor to our removal

02:09:51.000 --> 02:09:56.000
of connection with G21 and then everyone
will be happy after that.

02:09:56.000 --> 02:09:59.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Would any
other Councillors like to speak?

02:09:59.000 --> 02:10:03.000
CR BARKER: Just again very good timing
for this strategy to go out.

02:10:03.000 --> 02:10:06.000
Why do we insist on calling it football?

02:10:06.000 --> 02:10:08.000
I mean, we&amp;apos;re not European,
we&amp;apos;re Australian.

02:10:08.000 --> 02:10:10.000
Why don&amp;apos;t we label it soccer?

02:10:10.000 --> 02:10:12.000
That&amp;apos;s my only comment.

02:10:12.000 --> 02:10:16.000
MAYOR PATTISON: I&amp;apos;ll take that
as a comment.

02:10:16.000 --> 02:10:20.000
Did you have any closing remarks,
Councillor Gazzard?

02:10:20.000 --> 02:10:22.000
CR GAZZARD: No, but I&amp;apos;d encourage people
to make submissions if

02:10:22.000 --> 02:10:25.000
they think there should be changes
to the draft.

02:10:25.000 --> 02:10:26.000
Thank you.

02:10:26.000 --> 02:10:28.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Sounds good.

02:10:28.000 --> 02:10:29.000
We&amp;apos;ll now put the motion to the vote.

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All those in favour.

02:10:31.000 --> 02:10:32.000
All those opposed.

02:10:32.000 --> 02:10:34.000
And the motion is carried.

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Now we move on to 4.8,
MAV State Council Meeting Motion.

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The purpose of this report is
to seek Council&amp;apos;s endorsement of a motion

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to be tabled at the Municipal Association
of Victoria State Council Meeting

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on 13 October.

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Do we have a mover of a motion?

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Councillor Schonfelder

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- is that as per the recommendation?

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Yes.

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And seconded by Councillor Stapleton.

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Did you want to speak to it,
Councillor Schonfelder?

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CR SCHONFELDER: Yes, please, Mayor.

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The recommendation
is that Council resolves

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to submit the following motion
to the MAV State Council Meeting, first,

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MAV calls on the Victorian Government
to reform the Victorian Planning System

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to give greater weight
to environmental sustainability

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in the assessment process, in line
with the guidelines

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for sustainable buildings
and subdivisions, developed

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by the Council Alliance for Sustainable
and Built Environment, which is CASBE.

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The outcome of an acceptance
of this recommendation will enable Council

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to seek state sector support
for an initiative that aims

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to provide an opportunity
for development proposals to be assessed

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according to criteria
that support environmental sustainability.

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The MAV is a peak body
for Victorian Councils

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and a biannual State Council meeting
provides a means for member Councils

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to enlist support for advocacy.

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Motions passed
at MAV State Council meetings effectively

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have the endorsement
of the local government sector

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at a state level.

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The motion proposed
through this report aligns

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with several MAV stated strategic
priorities, namely, healthy, diverse

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and thriving communities; well-planned,
connected

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and resilient built environments;
changing climate and a circular economy.

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The motion aligns
with Council&amp;apos;s strategic priorities,

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including Council Plan 2021-2025,
and Council&amp;apos;s adopted advocacy priority.

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Now, I should mention that having grown
up in Barrabool,

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I had second cousins who were dairy
farmers and I had three cousins

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who operated dairy farms
and dairy farms could not operate any more

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due to the changing climate
and I think that (inaudible) was very

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correct when he said that it is

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- one of the biggest challenges
of our generation is climate change.

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On Facebook,
I follow the Matterhorn mountain

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and that region of Switzerland and
at the moment the mountain has the least

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amount of snow on it than it has ever had
in recorded history.

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So there are many examples
of records that have been broken,

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including heatwaves in Europe
and North America.

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And I know some people argue that
the climate is cyclical,

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and I believe that is true,
but I also do believe that human impacts

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on the environment are so significant.

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And another example of this
is groundwater extraction

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for human consumption which is
at a very large level which makes

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micro climate change.

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Particularly witnessing that
in the Barwon Valley, which is

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in our municipality.

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I ask my colleagues
to support this very important motion,

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please, Mayor.

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Thank you.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you,
Councillor Schonfelder.

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Councillor Stapleton, would you like
to speak?

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CR STAPLETON: Thank you, Mayor.

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The Municipal Association
of Victoria presents an excellent

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opportunity to advocate for key issues
at a state level.

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The proposed motion for Surf Coast to take
to the MAV State Conference

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will enable Council
to amplify its advocacy on climate change

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and environmental sustainability.

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This motion reflects the dire need
for more action to address

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and mitigate impacts of climate change.

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Planning
is one place where Councils can

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make a difference,
but we need the State Government

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to support changes
to the Planning &amp;amp; Environment Act

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and the Victorian Planning Provisions.

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Surf Coast Shire is advocating
for a review of the planning controls

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to ensure climate change impacts can be
considered as part

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of the planning assessment process
as Council currently has limited powers

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to assess applications
according to

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environmental sustainability criteria.

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There are many ways buildings could be
assessed for higher ratings

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on environmental sustainability,
such as daylight, ventilation, shading,

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zero carbon development, water efficiency,
stormwater management, site permeability,

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and building materials.

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We&amp;apos;ve learnt more
about sustainable subdivisions too,

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where relatively simple measures can
contribute

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to better environmental performance.

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These should be the new planning norms
and there is really no time to wait.

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Just yesterday we heard that the ice caps
of the Antarctic are severely threatened.

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Normally
after a summer melt the ice returns.

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However, this year that has not been
the case.

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As Councillor Schonfelder mentioned,
the Northern Hemisphere is suffering

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through blistering temperatures and fires.

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Other places are facing torrential
rain and floods.

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And we know there is a cost,
not just socially and environmentally,

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but economically too.

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Heatwaves alone have already cost
the world economy $16 trillion in losses

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since the 1990s
and the costs are mounting.

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In Australia,
climate change has cost us billions

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of dollars and it
is expected the annual cost

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of extreme weather events in Australia
will reach $35 billion by 2050,

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or an average $2,500
per household per year,

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according to a report
by the Insurance Council of Australia.

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This figure is only for the direct cost
of damage to homes and infrastructure.

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It doesn&amp;apos;t include the wider economic
impact on jobs, lost production,

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food shortages and health,
not to mention loss of biodiversity

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and impacts on nature.

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So if you&amp;apos;re not motivated by the need
to protect our planet, its people

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and animals from the impacts
of climate change,

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hopefully you&amp;apos;ll be motivated
by the financial cost to our community.

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Addressing climate change isn&amp;apos;t just
the responsibility of Federal

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and State Governments.

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It&amp;apos;s our responsibility too
and it&amp;apos;s the responsibility

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of every individual in our community.

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The intention of this motion is
to achieve more environmentally

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sustainable development in the Surf Coast
Shire and the achievement

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of this goal would take us one step closer
to improving climate resilience

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and reducing emissions.

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Thank you.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

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Councillor Barker?

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CR BARKER: Thanks, Mayor.

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It&amp;apos;s incumbent on all of us who care
about housing affordability

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to support measures that make owning
a home easier.

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We&amp;apos;re in a housing affordability crisis
and what is being proposed here is

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to increase the stranglehold
on the housing industry that&amp;apos;s already

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suffering.

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You don&amp;apos;t need
to be an economics professor

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to know that increasing environmental
hurdles to housing construction

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is only going to put upward pressure
on housing prices and reduce supply.

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If you want
to make housing affordability more

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difficult, you&amp;apos;re welcome to vote
for this motion.

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I understand the economic ramifications
of this motion,

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however well intentioned they are,
and I care about people who are struggling

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to afford a home and, as such,
will be voting against the motion

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and I invite you to join me.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Do any other Councillors
want to speak to the motion?

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Councillor Schonfelder,
have you got any closing remarks?

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CR SCHONFELDER: Just
to thank Councillor Stapleton

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for seconding the motion and for bringing
up some very valid points

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and I know that in the
past houses were built with eaves

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and that&amp;apos;s a simple way
of providing more shade

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and an environmentally friendly measure.

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In Florida I&amp;apos;ve been informed
there are insurance companies that are no

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longer willing
to ensure houses that are close

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to beach front areas,
so that&amp;apos;s another concern that&amp;apos;s very

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pertinent for our area.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

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We&amp;apos;ll now put the motion to the vote.

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All those in favour.

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And opposed.

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And the motion is carried.

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We now move on to 4.9,
Risk Appetite Statements.

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The purpose of this report is for Council
to consider

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and adopt the Risk Appetite Statements.

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Do I have a mover of a motion?

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Councillor Bodsworth

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- is it as per the recommendation?

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CR BODSWORTH: Yes, thanks, Mayor.

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MAYOR PATTISON: And a seconder?

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Councillor Gazzard.

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Would you like to speak to the motion,
Councillor Bodsworth?

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CR BODSWORTH: Thanks, Mayor.

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As Councillors know,
these Risk Appetite Statements have been

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through quite a long and arduous process
in their development

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and there are definitely mixed feelings
about the versions that we see in front

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of us here, but I have no hesitation
in recommending that we adopt them

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as per the recommendation, which is not
to say that I love them because I don&amp;apos;t.

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There are various things that I have
trouble with

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with the Risk Appetite Statements
and I&amp;apos;m not going to go

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into those things now
because they&amp;apos;re a personal view

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on the Risk Appetite Statements
that I don&amp;apos;t think would

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- I don&amp;apos;t think I can improve on them.

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I think the main trouble that I have
with them is where

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they sit in the overall risk management
system that we&amp;apos;re evolving.

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We&amp;apos;ve done a lot of work
in growing our risk management system

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and these are just one component
of that system.

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So I think it&amp;apos;s really important where
we&amp;apos;ve got to and I appreciate the work

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that all the people involved have done
to get us to where we are

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and I think the next step is to adopt them
and to use them and it&amp;apos;s only

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by using them that we&amp;apos;re going
to get a better understanding.

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We could fiddle around with them forever,
but it&amp;apos;s only

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by using them that we&amp;apos;re going
to understand how well they work for us.

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They&amp;apos;re mainly an inward-facing thing.

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They&amp;apos;re mainly Council&amp;apos;s positioning
for the understanding of the organisation

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around key issues stemming
from the Council plan.

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So I believe that it&amp;apos;s time to put them
to use and through the use of them

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to evolve them as we need to.

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These are essentially live statements
which we can adapt and improve

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as we feel we need to.

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It&amp;apos;s on that basis, not
because I love them,

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that I urge Councillors to adopt them
and let&amp;apos;s put them to use and get

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to know them better and improve them.

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Thanks.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

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And Councillor Gazzard?

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CR GAZZARD: Thank you.

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I support

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- CR BARKER: Mayor

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- MAYOR PATTISON: Sorry, it was seconded
by Councillor Gazzard.

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Did you have a question?

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CR BARKER: Oh, sorry, yes.

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No, carry on.

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CR GAZZARD: I support the motion as well.

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I think I&amp;apos;m proud
of the work that&amp;apos;s been done

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with these risk appetite statements and
of course they&amp;apos;re not perfect

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and we&amp;apos;ll never agree on everything,
but they do represent the seven themes

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in our Council plan
and I think it&amp;apos;s a good practice

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to be more aware of risk,
but also where there&amp;apos;s a balance

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of risk that we&amp;apos;re happy to take in order
to progress towards our strategic goals.

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So agree that they can be reviewed,
they&amp;apos;re not fixed and they can change,

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so I think it&amp;apos;s good to try them
and see how it goes

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and something that can help guide us
in our decision making

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and the Council officers as well.

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So happy to adopt these.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

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Councillor Allen?

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CR ALLEN: Thanks, Mayor.

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I reluctantly do not support this
recommendation.

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I&amp;apos;m mindful
of the considerable work undertaken

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by the officers in an attempt
to get Councillor agreement.

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I participated in the workshops,
expressed my concerns,

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which were partly addressed
in the second version.

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However, I am still very much ill at ease
with the result.

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Why?

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I believe these statements are so general
that they won&amp;apos;t be useful.

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They took us a long time to formulate.

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They will, I believe, give us
and the officers little effective guidance

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Risk assessment is based very much
upon the item under consideration

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and needs a detailed risk analysis
and then, if appropriate,

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we would receive feedback from the Audit
and Risk Committee.

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There are often conflicting risks
associated with an issue.

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For example, removing trees
to minimise fire risk is opposed

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to maintaining township character
and environmental protection.

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Catastrophic events in the Northern
Hemisphere are real evidence supporting

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the urgent need
to reduce carbon emissions.

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Planting trees is one proven strategy,
but we remove them to reduce the risk that

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we can reasonably predict
but don&amp;apos;t know when and

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with what severity it will occur.

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The statement does not consider short-term
versus long-term risk.

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I appreciate that this
is an attempt to inform longer-term

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planning, but so often in this context we
will take the short-term view

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for budgetary and expediency reasons.

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Finally, what we say all too often is not
in reality what we do

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because we are not prepared
to take acceptable risk

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and some policies take an inordinate
amount of time to develop, which

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in my view is contrary to our aim
to empower local communities.

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If we are genuine in our aim
to improve both physical health

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and mental health,
we would allocate significantly increased

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funds to the arts and creative industries
that we know are important

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to decrease the risk
of poor mental health outcomes

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and balance what we rightly allocate
to physical health, but we don&amp;apos;t.

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Thank you.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

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Councillor Barker?

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CR BARKER: Thanks, Mayor.

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First, I apologise
for my inappropriate interjection.

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MAYOR PATTISON: No worries.

02:25:45.000 --> 02:25:47.000
CR BARKER: Those of you who have read
the agenda in detail

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will see that I haven&amp;apos;t attended briefings
for this item.

02:25:50.000 --> 02:25:53.000
I&amp;apos;ve tried to attend briefings,
but I find the environment

02:25:53.000 --> 02:25:56.000
in these briefings is not welcoming
at best and I&amp;apos;ll leave it at that.

02:25:56.000 --> 02:25:59.000
I find the contempt for ratepayers
and residents to be unbearable

02:25:59.000 --> 02:26:02.000
and the ideology that&amp;apos;s constantly
expressed is seriously opposed

02:26:02.000 --> 02:26:04.000
to what I value.

02:26:04.000 --> 02:26:11.000
Getting on to the environment,
as Councillor Allen has highlighted,

02:26:11.000 --> 02:26:15.000
we&amp;apos;ve got a situation happening right
before us

02:26:15.000 --> 02:26:19.000
at the moment where we&amp;apos;re installing
wombat crossings next to the Quay oval

02:26:19.000 --> 02:26:24.000
and we&amp;apos;re removing trees
and injecting a whole bunch more concrete

02:26:24.000 --> 02:26:33.000
and bitumen that for me
is a totally negative outcome with regards

02:26:33.000 --> 02:26:36.000
to environmental considerations,
and that then leads me back

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to these risk appetite statements
and why I

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will not be supporting this motion.

02:26:42.000 --> 02:26:46.000
There&amp;apos;s disregard for the community
in theme 1, the lack

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of financial consideration in theme 3,
theme 4&amp;apos;s risk appetite statement

02:26:51.000 --> 02:26:57.000
is too broad, theme 5 is anti free market,
the risk appetite of theme 6 is vague

02:26:57.000 --> 02:27:01.000
and can place arts
above core Council functions,

02:27:01.000 --> 02:27:04.000
I don&amp;apos;t think this organisation is capable
of living up

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to theme 7&amp;apos;s risk appetite statement,
and

02:27:07.000 --> 02:27:09.000
for those reasons I won&amp;apos;t be
supporting the motion.

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MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

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Do we have any other speakers
on the motion?

02:27:17.000 --> 02:27:19.000
No?

02:27:19.000 --> 02:27:22.000
Councillor Bodsworth,
do you have any closing remarks?

02:27:22.000 --> 02:27:24.000
CR BODSWORTH: Briefly, thanks, Mayor.

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I appreciate the thoroughness
with which Councillor Barker has addressed

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this and Councillor Allen&amp;apos;s remarks too
and I will just reiterate what I said

02:27:36.000 --> 02:27:39.000
before, which
is that the risk appetite statements are

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part of a much bigger framework
of risk management.

02:27:43.000 --> 02:27:47.000
It&amp;apos;s important that that framework
functions in a systematic way, so this

02:27:47.000 --> 02:27:49.000
is just part of that system.

02:27:49.000 --> 02:27:53.000
It&amp;apos;s also kind of a moment in time
with the Risk Appetite Statements

02:27:53.000 --> 02:27:57.000
and they&amp;apos;re open to improvement
and evolution as we go along.

02:27:57.000 --> 02:28:01.000
And in reference to some
of Councillor Allen&amp;apos;s comments,

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one of the beauties
of the Risk Appetite Statements

02:28:05.000 --> 02:28:12.000
is that it positions us to take risks
as well as to avoid them and risk

02:28:12.000 --> 02:28:15.000
and opportunity go hand in hand
and there are opportunities that

02:28:15.000 --> 02:28:18.000
we&amp;apos;ve identified already on our term
as Council.

02:28:18.000 --> 02:28:22.000
For example,
the Bob Pettitt Bike Park opportunity,

02:28:22.000 --> 02:28:28.000
where we empowered local riders
to dump dirt and work and get on the tools

02:28:28.000 --> 02:28:30.000
to create the bike park that they wanted

02:28:30.000 --> 02:28:36.000
- we did that
because we positioned our sort of

02:28:36.000 --> 02:28:40.000
- or we reached a position
on those risks that meant that we backed

02:28:40.000 --> 02:28:45.000
the community
and I think that that&amp;apos;s one thing that

02:28:45.000 --> 02:28:47.000
we can achieve
with the right risk appetite settings

02:28:47.000 --> 02:28:49.000
is that we can

02:28:49.000 --> 02:28:53.000
- it sets us up to take opportunities
as well as to mitigate risks.

02:28:53.000 --> 02:28:59.000
So I think that that&amp;apos;s an important part
of what these offer and, yeah,

02:28:59.000 --> 02:29:03.000
I&amp;apos;m looking forward to seeing them
in action and improving them over time.

02:29:03.000 --> 02:29:05.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Thank you.

02:29:05.000 --> 02:29:06.000
We&amp;apos;ll now put the motion to the vote.

02:29:06.000 --> 02:29:09.000
All those in favour.

02:29:09.000 --> 02:29:11.000
And all those opposed.

02:29:11.000 --> 02:29:12.000
And the motion is carried.

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We now move on to item 4.10,
Biannual Audit and Risk Committee Update.

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The purpose of this report is
to present the Audit

02:29:21.000 --> 02:29:24.000
and Risk Committee Biannual Activity
Report to Council.

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Do I have a mover?

02:29:27.000 --> 02:29:29.000
Councillor Bodsworth

02:29:29.000 --> 02:29:30.000
- as per the recommendation?

02:29:30.000 --> 02:29:32.000
CR BODSWORTH: Yes, thanks, Mayor.

02:29:32.000 --> 02:29:33.000
MAYOR PATTISON: And a seconder?

02:29:33.000 --> 02:29:35.000
Councillor Barker.

02:29:35.000 --> 02:29:37.000
Did you want to speak to it,
Councillor Bodsworth?

02:29:37.000 --> 02:29:39.000
CR BODSWORTH: Thanks, Mayor.

02:29:39.000 --> 02:29:42.000
So I&amp;apos;m a councillor representative
on the Audit and Risk Committee,

02:29:42.000 --> 02:29:45.000
as is Councillor Wellington
and Councillor Barker was previously

02:29:45.000 --> 02:29:50.000
a representative on the committee,
so noting that the Audit

02:29:50.000 --> 02:29:53.000
and Risk Committee
is an advisory committee providing

02:29:53.000 --> 02:29:57.000
oversight
of governance risk internal controls

02:29:57.000 --> 02:30:02.000
- for example, including oversight
of the grants program audit that we talked

02:30:02.000 --> 02:30:06.000
about a little earlier on.

02:30:06.000 --> 02:30:10.000
The update from the Audit
and Risk Committee includes a 2023 work

02:30:10.000 --> 02:30:14.000
plan, reporting on legislative compliance

02:30:14.000 --> 02:30:18.000
- for example, the compliance
with the new Environmental Protection Act,

02:30:18.000 --> 02:30:22.000
which the committee has been particularly
vigilant on

02:30:22.000 --> 02:30:27.000
and provided some great guidance
for our officers in compliance

02:30:27.000 --> 02:30:32.000
with that Act; financial monitoring
and performance internal

02:30:32.000 --> 02:30:38.000
and external audits; internal controls,
including now cyber security

02:30:38.000 --> 02:30:43.000
as a standing agenda item, which I think
is a really important addition

02:30:43.000 --> 02:30:48.000
to the committee&amp;apos;s standing agenda;
and the risk management

02:30:48.000 --> 02:30:50.000
like we were just talking about then,
the Audit

02:30:50.000 --> 02:30:58.000
and Risk Committee update includes noting
of significant progress in risk awareness

02:31:00.000 --> 02:31:02.000
and management capability.

02:31:02.000 --> 02:31:06.000
And I note also that the committee has
reviewed the Risk Appetite Statements that

02:31:06.000 --> 02:31:08.000
we just talked about.

02:31:08.000 --> 02:31:11.000
So I&amp;apos;d just like
to acknowledge the hard work that

02:31:11.000 --> 02:31:15.000
the committee members do, the Audit
and Risk

02:31:15.000 --> 02:31:18.000
- they&amp;apos;re incredibly attentive to detail.

02:31:18.000 --> 02:31:23.000
They always put a huge amount of time
and effort into their preparation

02:31:23.000 --> 02:31:26.000
for meetings
and I can&amp;apos;t fault the committee.

02:31:26.000 --> 02:31:30.000
I think we&amp;apos;re really lucky to have them
and they add a huge value

02:31:30.000 --> 02:31:33.000
to the organisation.

02:31:33.000 --> 02:31:34.000
MAYOR PATTISON: That&amp;apos;s great.

02:31:34.000 --> 02:31:36.000
Councillor Barker?

02:31:36.000 --> 02:31:39.000
CR BARKER: Just very briefly, very happy
to see the progress of the Audit

02:31:39.000 --> 02:31:43.000
and Risk Committee travelling very
productively.

02:31:43.000 --> 02:31:48.000
I would like to highlight that I think
the workload is now better managed

02:31:48.000 --> 02:31:51.000
with five meetings per year,
where it used to be done in four,

02:31:51.000 --> 02:31:55.000
and they were pretty hectic meetings,
so hopefully they&amp;apos;re a little less hectic

02:31:55.000 --> 02:31:56.000
now.

02:31:56.000 --> 02:32:01.000
But just one thing I did have a question
on is why was Wednesday,

02:32:01.000 --> 02:32:02.000
26 July highlighted?

02:32:04.000 --> 02:32:07.000
MAYOR PATTISON: I&amp;apos;ll pass that to our CEO.

02:32:07.000 --> 02:32:09.000
MS ROBYN SEYMOUR: It&amp;apos;s a good question.

02:32:09.000 --> 02:32:12.000
We moved the meeting
because the Chair wasn&amp;apos;t available and so

02:32:12.000 --> 02:32:17.000
we had the meeting last Friday rather than
as published in this report.

02:32:17.000 --> 02:32:18.000
CR BARKER: Thanks.

02:32:20.000 --> 02:32:23.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Did you want
to speak any further?

02:32:23.000 --> 02:32:24.000
That&amp;apos;s it?

02:32:24.000 --> 02:32:26.000
Do any other Councillors wish to speak?

02:32:26.000 --> 02:32:28.000
No.

02:32:28.000 --> 02:32:29.000
Closing remarks?

02:32:29.000 --> 02:32:31.000
We&amp;apos;ll put the motion to the vote.

02:32:31.000 --> 02:32:32.000
All those in favour.

02:32:32.000 --> 02:32:34.000
And the motion is carried unanimously.

02:32:37.000 --> 02:32:41.000
We now move on to 4.11,
Councillor Expenses and Attendance

02:32:41.000 --> 02:32:45.000
at Meetings from 1 April to 30 June 2023.

02:32:45.000 --> 02:32:49.000
This report is presented for Council
to note Councillors&amp;apos; allowances, expenses

02:32:49.000 --> 02:32:53.000
and attendance at meetings
for the June 2023 quarter.

02:32:53.000 --> 02:32:54.000
Do we have a mover of a motion?

02:32:54.000 --> 02:32:56.000
Councillor Allen

02:32:56.000 --> 02:32:57.000
- is it as per the recommendation?

02:32:57.000 --> 02:32:59.000
CR ALLEN: As per the recommendation.

02:32:59.000 --> 02:33:01.000
MAYOR PATTISON: And a seconder?

02:33:01.000 --> 02:33:02.000
Councillor Barker.

02:33:02.000 --> 02:33:04.000
Would you like to speak, Councillor Allen?

02:33:04.000 --> 02:33:06.000
CR ALLEN: No, thanks, Mayor.

02:33:06.000 --> 02:33:08.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Councillor Barker,
would you like to speak.

02:33:08.000 --> 02:33:10.000
CR BARKER: No, thanks.

02:33:10.000 --> 02:33:12.000
MAYOR PATTISON: Any other Councillors?

02:33:12.000 --> 02:33:13.000
Councillor Bodsworth?

02:33:13.000 --> 02:33:15.000
CR BODSWORTH: Thanks, Mayor.

02:33:15.000 --> 02:33:17.000
There&amp;apos;s a few things I&amp;apos;d like to mention.

02:33:17.000 --> 02:33:19.000
One is that this is about transparency
to the community.

02:33:19.000 --> 02:33:21.000
Another one
is that in the expenses I&amp;apos;ve got

02:33:21.000 --> 02:33:24.000
an expense there relating
to the Australian Institute

02:33:24.000 --> 02:33:26.000
of Company Directors course,
which I&amp;apos;m really grateful

02:33:26.000 --> 02:33:29.000
for the opportunity
to have done that course.

02:33:29.000 --> 02:33:30.000
I haven&amp;apos;t finished it yet.

02:33:30.000 --> 02:33:34.000
Councillor Stapleton is also doing it
and several Councillors have done it

02:33:34.000 --> 02:33:38.000
before us, so fantastic that we get
the opportunity to do that course.

02:33:38.000 --> 02:33:39.000
And that will do me.

02:33:39.000 --> 02:33:41.000
Thanks.

02:33:41.000 --> 02:33:43.000
MAYOR PATTISON: I assume there&amp;apos;s
no closing remarks.

02:33:43.000 --> 02:33:45.000
CR ALLEN: No, thanks.

02:33:45.000 --> 02:33:46.000
MAYOR PATTISON: No.

02:33:46.000 --> 02:33:48.000
So we&amp;apos;ll put the motion to the vote.

02:33:48.000 --> 02:33:49.000
All those in favour.

02:33:49.000 --> 02:33:51.000
And the motion is carried unanimously.

02:33:53.000 --> 02:33:56.000
Instrument of Appointment
and Authorisation

02:33:56.000 --> 02:34:00.000
- Planning and Environment Act 1987,
item 4.12.

02:34:00.000 --> 02:34:03.000
The purpose of this report is
to seek Council&amp;apos;s appointment

02:34:03.000 --> 02:34:06.000
of authorised officers under the Planning
and Environment Act 1987

02:34:06.000 --> 02:34:09.000
through the updated Instrument
of Authorisation and Appointment.

02:34:09.000 --> 02:34:11.000
Do we have a mover of a motion?

02:34:11.000 --> 02:34:13.000
Councillor Stapleton

02:34:13.000 --> 02:34:14.000
- is it as per the recommendation?

02:34:14.000 --> 02:34:16.000
And a seconder?

02:34:16.000 --> 02:34:17.000
Councillor Gazzard.

02:34:17.000 --> 02:34:19.000
Would you like to speak,
Councillor Stapleton?

02:34:19.000 --> 02:34:21.000
CR STAPLETON: No, thank you.

02:34:21.000 --> 02:34:22.000
MAYOR PATTISON: No.

02:34:22.000 --> 02:34:24.000
And Councillor Gazzard?

02:34:24.000 --> 02:34:25.000
No.

02:34:25.000 --> 02:34:27.000
Any other Councillors?

02:34:27.000 --> 02:34:28.000
No.

02:34:28.000 --> 02:34:30.000
We&amp;apos;ll now put the motion to the vote.

02:34:30.000 --> 02:34:32.000
All those in favour.

02:34:32.000 --> 02:34:33.000
And the motion is carried unanimously.

02:34:33.000 --> 02:34:36.000
We now move on to 4.12, Conflict
of Interest Records.

02:34:36.000 --> 02:34:38.000
The purpose of this report is
to present conflict

02:34:38.000 --> 02:34:41.000
of interest records received
since the previous Council meeting.

02:34:41.000 --> 02:34:44.000
Do we have a mover of a motion?

02:34:44.000 --> 02:34:45.000
Councillor Gazzard.

02:34:45.000 --> 02:34:47.000
Is it as per the recommendation?

02:34:47.000 --> 02:34:48.000
Yes.

02:34:48.000 --> 02:34:50.000
And seconded by Councillor Bodsworth.

02:34:50.000 --> 02:34:52.000
Would you like to speak,
Councillor Gazzard?

02:34:52.000 --> 02:34:54.000
No.

02:34:54.000 --> 02:34:55.000
And yourself, Councillor Bodsworth?

02:34:55.000 --> 02:34:57.000
CR BODSWORTH: No, thanks, Mayor.

02:34:57.000 --> 02:34:58.000
MAYOR PATTISON: No.

02:34:58.000 --> 02:35:00.000
Any other Councillors?

02:35:00.000 --> 02:35:01.000
No.

02:35:01.000 --> 02:35:03.000
We&amp;apos;ll put the motion to the vote.

02:35:03.000 --> 02:35:04.000
All those in favour.

02:35:04.000 --> 02:35:06.000
And the motion is carried unanimously.

02:35:06.000 --> 02:35:09.000
There&amp;apos;s no urgent business,
so I now declare the meeting commence

02:35:09.000 --> 02:35:15.000
- the end of our meeting, sorry,
at exactly 9 o&amp;apos;clock.

02:35:15.000 --> 02:35:19.000
So thank you, everybody, for your time and
for joining us online and in the gallery.

02:35:19.000 --> 02:35:20.000
Thank you so much.

02:35:20.000 --> 02:35:22.000
Goodbye.

