WEBVTT 00:00:00.018 --> 00:00:02.013 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Hello and welcome. 00:00:02.013 --> 00:00:05.002 Good evening and welcome to our March Council meeting. 00:00:05.002 --> 00:00:08.017 I'm Mayor Liz Pattison and it's a pleasure to welcome members of the community 00:00:08.017 --> 00:00:10.005 into the chambers tonight. 00:00:10.005 --> 00:00:13.020 This meeting is also being live streamed, so a big welcome to those tuning 00:00:13.020 --> 00:00:17.009 in online, and of course welcome to my fellow Councillors, 00:00:17.009 --> 00:00:21.003 noting that we are likely to have Councillor Wellington online 00:00:21.003 --> 00:00:23.002 tonight. 00:00:23.002 --> 00:00:25.014 Live captioning will accompany the live stream 00:00:25.014 --> 00:00:28.004 and the Council Chambers is fitted with a hearing loop, 00:00:28.004 --> 00:00:30.016 which transmits directly to hearing aids. 00:00:30.016 --> 00:00:34.003 We hope that this assists those who may be having hearing difficulties. 00:00:34.003 --> 00:00:37.012 The Surf Coast Shire local government area spans the traditional lands 00:00:37.012 --> 00:00:42.003 of the Wadawurrung people and the Gulidjan and Gadubanud peoples of the Maar Nation. 00:00:42.003 --> 00:00:46.001 I would like to acknowledge that here in Torquay at the main Council office, 00:00:46.001 --> 00:00:48.005 we are gathered on Wadawurrung country. 00:00:48.005 --> 00:00:52.003 I pay my respects to Elders past, present and emerging. 00:00:52.003 --> 00:00:55.019 The Wadawurrung people have nurtured and protected these lands and waterways 00:00:55.019 --> 00:00:59.010 for thousands of generations and I am so grateful for the opportunity 00:00:59.010 --> 00:01:03.008 to live and work in such a beautiful part of the world. 00:01:03.008 --> 00:01:05.017 We also wish to acknowledge the traditional owners 00:01:05.017 --> 00:01:08.001 of the lands on which each person is attending 00:01:08.001 --> 00:01:12.014 and acknowledge any Aboriginal people who may be viewing the meeting tonight. 00:01:12.014 --> 00:01:19.020 Last week I was part of the G21 Region Alliance of five Mayors 00:01:19.020 --> 00:01:22.011 and Council CEOs to visit Canberra for meetings 00:01:22.011 --> 00:01:25.006 with federal government ministers and shadow ministers 00:01:25.006 --> 00:01:28.012 to highlight major pressures on the G21 region stemming 00:01:28.012 --> 00:01:31.007 from rapid population growth, and that was focusing 00:01:31.007 --> 00:01:37.009 on things such as transport, housing and key worker visa extensions. 00:01:37.009 --> 00:01:40.012 So we took part in around 18 meetings, which included Deputy 00:01:40.012 --> 00:01:43.024 Prime Minister Richard Marles, Infrastructure Minister Catherine King, 00:01:43.024 --> 00:01:46.024 and Regional Development and Local Government Minister Kristy 00:01:46.024 --> 00:01:52.008 McBain, Opposition Leader Peter Dutton, and local MPs Libby Coker and Dan Tehan. 00:01:52.008 --> 00:01:57.001 It was a really great opportunity to meet with our ministers and engage with them 00:01:57.001 --> 00:01:59.011 on things that are really important for our region. 00:02:01.014 --> 00:02:06.019 And as I already mentioned, we advocated for improved transport, affordable housing 00:02:06.019 --> 00:02:11.003 and action to address our key worker shortage. 00:02:11.003 --> 00:02:15.018 So through G21, we are seeking a permanent policy change 00:02:15.018 --> 00:02:20.024 to the Working Holiday Maker visa, so visa holders can stay with one employer 00:02:20.024 --> 00:02:24.021 for up to 12 months rather than just six months. 00:02:24.021 --> 00:02:29.000 This will give our businesses more stability in staffing and attract workers 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:32.017 to the region with the promise of ongoing employment. 00:02:32.017 --> 00:02:35.016 Last month Council celebrated International Women's Day 00:02:35.016 --> 00:02:40.003 with the unveiling of a mural the Strong Woman Strong Spirit 00:02:40.003 --> 00:02:44.008 by First Nations artist Jenna Oldaker. 00:02:44.008 --> 00:02:47.019 So if you haven't already seen it at Wurdi Baierr, when you first walk in, 00:02:47.019 --> 00:02:51.000 it's a beautiful mural, very bright and colourful 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:53.003 with some really important messages. 00:02:53.003 --> 00:02:56.023 The artist describes the work as "a celebration of all the strong women 00:02:56.023 --> 00:03:00.014 that have travelled this beautiful land that we are lucky enough to call home. 00:03:00.014 --> 00:03:04.019 Our ancestors and Elders travelled these same lands sharing their culture, 00:03:04.019 --> 00:03:09.013 sharing their stories and ideas, and it is now our responsibility to take care of 00:03:09.013 --> 00:03:11.013 and nurture our Wadawurrung country home. 00:03:11.013 --> 00:03:14.022 "So those were the artist's words in relation to the work. 00:03:14.022 --> 00:03:18.001 We chose to work with an artist to realise this year's International 00:03:18.001 --> 00:03:20.013 Women's Day theme of "Embrace Equity". 00:03:20.013 --> 00:03:23.016 In Australia, more than half of undergraduate and three-quarters 00:03:23.016 --> 00:03:26.005 of post-graduate fine art qualifications are awarded 00:03:26.005 --> 00:03:30.012 to women, yet women's art makes up only one quarter of the work acquired 00:03:30.012 --> 00:03:32.018 for public gallery and municipal collections, 00:03:32.018 --> 00:03:34.008 including public art. 00:03:34.008 --> 00:03:38.005 This shows us that while it's clear that women have achieved equity of access 00:03:38.005 --> 00:03:41.000 to education and training in the arts, there is still nothing 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:46.000 like equity when it comes to career opportunities, and in a place 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:48.010 like the Surf Coast, where the creative industries 00:03:48.010 --> 00:03:51.017 is a significant contributor to our economy, this is something we need 00:03:51.017 --> 00:03:53.023 to work actively to understand and address. 00:03:53.023 --> 00:03:56.016 And now to our agenda for tonight. 00:03:56.016 --> 00:03:59.003 It's a long one and there's lots of important matters, 00:03:59.003 --> 00:04:01.008 so let's get that under way. 00:04:01.008 --> 00:04:05.014 So our Council meetings operate according to our Governance Rules, 00:04:05.014 --> 00:04:07.012 which include the following procedures. 00:04:07.012 --> 00:04:10.020 During the meeting, the mover of a motion or an amendment may speak 00:04:10.020 --> 00:04:13.024 for a maximum of five minutes to open the debate 00:04:13.024 --> 00:04:16.018 and then a further 2 minutes to make a closing statement. 00:04:16.018 --> 00:04:19.014 Any other Councillor, including the seconder, may speak 00:04:19.014 --> 00:04:23.008 to a motion for no more than 3 minutes. 00:04:23.008 --> 00:04:26.022 We have a pledge at our Council, and I would now like to recite that pledge 00:04:26.022 --> 00:04:30.023 as a sign of our commitment: as Councillors, we carry 00:04:30.023 --> 00:04:35.024 out our responsibilities with diligence and integrity and make fair decisions 00:04:35.024 --> 00:04:40.006 of lasting value for the wellbeing of our community and environment. 00:04:46.023 --> 00:04:51.001 And moving along on apologies, are there any apologies tonight 00:04:51.001 --> 00:04:54.015 for this Council meeting? 00:04:54.015 --> 00:04:57.017 No? 00:04:57.017 --> 00:04:59.004 And the confirmation of minutes 00:04:59.004 --> 00:05:02.002 - can I please have a mover and a seconder to confirm the minutes 00:05:02.002 --> 00:05:05.018 of the Council meeting held on Tuesday, 28 February 2023 00:05:05.018 --> 00:05:09.006 and the special Council meetings for hearings of submissions held 00:05:09.006 --> 00:05:13.021 on 7 March 2023 and 14 March 2023? 00:05:13.021 --> 00:05:15.009 Thank you, Councillor Allen. 00:05:15.009 --> 00:05:17.002 Is it as per the recommendation? 00:05:17.002 --> 00:05:19.001 And seconded by Councillor Hodge. 00:05:19.001 --> 00:05:21.001 All those in favour? 00:05:21.001 --> 00:05:22.021 And the motion is carried unanimously. 00:05:27.004 --> 00:05:30.018 Are there any leave of absence requests? 00:05:30.018 --> 00:05:34.002 No? 00:05:34.002 --> 00:05:37.000 We now move on to declarations of conflicts of interest. 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:40.012 If a Councillor or an officer has a conflict of interest, 00:05:40.012 --> 00:05:43.000 they must declare it now and do so again just prior 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:45.000 to the item being discussed. 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:48.019 The Councillor and/or officer will be requested to leave the Chambers, 00:05:48.019 --> 00:05:52.011 or for those online to be placed by the host in a virtual waiting room, 00:05:52.011 --> 00:05:54.010 whilst the matter is being considered. 00:05:54.010 --> 00:05:57.007 Once the matter is resolved, the Councillor and/or officer 00:05:57.007 --> 00:05:59.002 will be returned to the meeting. 00:05:59.002 --> 00:06:02.002 Are there any declarations of conflicts of interest in relation 00:06:02.002 --> 00:06:04.019 to tonight's agenda? 00:06:04.019 --> 00:06:06.010 I have, actually. 00:06:06.010 --> 00:06:11.006 I'd like to note that I am declaring an interest in item 4.9, as point 2 00:06:11.006 --> 00:06:14.014 of the recommendation requests that Council note a matter related 00:06:14.014 --> 00:06:19.018 to the Jan Juc Kindergarten bike path proposal and as my brother-in-law 00:06:19.018 --> 00:06:23.014 is the President of the Parents' Association. 00:06:23.014 --> 00:06:26.015 So I will not be declaring a conflict of interest 00:06:26.015 --> 00:06:29.008 because tonight we're just noting this report. 00:06:29.008 --> 00:06:33.006 However, in future, when it's presented for a decision, 00:06:33.006 --> 00:06:35.004 I'll be declaring a conflict of interest. 00:06:37.006 --> 00:06:41.004 If any other officers or Councillors become aware of a conflict of interest, 00:06:41.004 --> 00:06:42.016 let me know. 00:06:45.006 --> 00:06:48.004 ROBYN SEYMOUR: Councillor Wellington is in the waiting room. 00:06:48.004 --> 00:06:51.006 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Oh, Jake, can we let Councillor Wellington in, 00:06:51.006 --> 00:06:52.019 please? 00:06:52.019 --> 00:06:54.006 Thank you. 00:06:54.006 --> 00:06:56.023 - are there any presentations from Councillors tonight? 00:06:56.023 --> 00:06:58.024 CR PAUL BARKER: A brief one, thanks, Mayor. 00:06:58.024 --> 00:07:00.011 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Sure thing. 00:07:00.011 --> 00:07:03.000 CR PAUL BARKER: On Saturday, I attended the fundraiser 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:04.013 for Feed Me Surf Coast. 00:07:04.013 --> 00:07:06.016 I learnt a hell of a lot about the organisation 00:07:06.016 --> 00:07:09.006 and the changing demographic that they're supporting. 00:07:09.006 --> 00:07:12.004 Historically, they've only supported, or needed to support, 00:07:12.004 --> 00:07:15.021 those who were unemployed, for obvious reasons, but due 00:07:15.021 --> 00:07:18.019 to the cost of living, they've found that they're now needing 00:07:18.019 --> 00:07:23.020 to support people with jobs, but are still unable to afford to put food 00:07:23.020 --> 00:07:25.008 on the table. 00:07:25.008 --> 00:07:29.000 I'll be making mention of that more in the rest of the night, 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:35.006 but that's a significant shift in only about four years of operation 00:07:35.006 --> 00:07:38.002 to now be needing to support those with work. 00:07:41.019 --> 00:07:44.004 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you, Councillor Barker. 00:07:47.012 --> 00:07:49.000 We now move on 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:51.020 - CR PAUL BARKER: Oh, and I do note that Councillor Wellington 00:07:51.020 --> 00:07:54.016 was also there, as was some other local representatives. 00:07:54.016 --> 00:07:57.016 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Great, thank you. 00:07:57.016 --> 00:08:01.015 - in accordance with Part 2, clause 1 of our Governance Rules, 00:08:01.015 --> 00:08:05.007 a person whose rights will be directly affected by a decision 00:08:05.007 --> 00:08:08.021 of the Council is entitled to make a written submission to Council 00:08:08.021 --> 00:08:12.000 to speak to their submission and to have their interests considered 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:13.017 in Council decision making. 00:08:13.017 --> 00:08:16.005 A request has been made by Tim and Caroline Wood 00:08:16.005 --> 00:08:19.024 to make an oral submission in support of their written submission provided 00:08:19.024 --> 00:08:24.004 to Council in relation to item 4.1 on tonight's agenda. 00:08:24.004 --> 00:08:27.011 I will now invite Tim and Caroline Wood to speak. 00:08:27.011 --> 00:08:31.014 We do have a full agenda tonight, so I will allow up to 5 minutes for each 00:08:31.014 --> 00:08:33.018 of you to have your submission. 00:08:41.002 --> 00:08:42.015 Thank you. 00:08:42.015 --> 00:08:46.003 Can I just ask you bring the microphone close so that we make sure everyone can 00:08:46.003 --> 00:08:47.016 hear. 00:08:47.016 --> 00:08:49.020 Thanks so much for coming and speaking with us. 00:08:49.020 --> 00:08:51.014 CAROLINE WOOD: Hi, I'm Caroline Wood. 00:08:51.014 --> 00:08:53.021 I have met quite a few of you, but you're obviously 00:08:53.021 --> 00:08:55.018 - there's a few new faces, a few old faces. 00:08:55.018 --> 00:08:59.017 I'm thinking you're all up to scratch with what's going on here with us. 00:08:59.017 --> 00:09:03.003 Yes, I was an ex Businesswoman of the Year. 00:09:03.003 --> 00:09:07.004 I've been around living in Aireys Inlet for 30 years and running a small business, 00:09:07.004 --> 00:09:10.003 which has now closed. 00:09:10.003 --> 00:09:13.009 Look, I think, you know, after hearing your welcome thing 00:09:13.009 --> 00:09:18.021 and what you stand for and just saying that you mean wellbeing 00:09:18.021 --> 00:09:22.013 and looking after people, you know, my biggest issue 00:09:22.013 --> 00:09:26.012 with this whole application and I think what it's come down to is, 00:09:26.012 --> 00:09:29.008 for me anyway, safety. 00:09:29.008 --> 00:09:31.008 You know, I'm still working with horses. 00:09:31.008 --> 00:09:33.017 I still am very passionate about it. 00:09:33.017 --> 00:09:36.015 I took a girlfriend the other day and said, "Look, give me a hand. 00:09:36.015 --> 00:09:39.010 I've got to take a couple of horses around that bitumen road, 00:09:39.010 --> 00:09:41.013 it's really unsafe, but can you give me a hand? 00:09:41.013 --> 00:09:43.000 I really need it. 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.015 "Now, the two horses, they're not really handled a lot, 00:09:45.015 --> 00:09:48.013 and I thought god, Caroline, that's ridiculous, I can't ask her 00:09:48.013 --> 00:09:51.015 to do that again, and nor can I ask anyone else to do that 00:09:51.015 --> 00:09:53.002 for me. 00:09:53.002 --> 00:09:54.015 It's just not safe. 00:09:54.015 --> 00:09:57.008 So for me the biggest issue is that not 00:09:57.008 --> 00:10:03.013 - to get to this point after four years and just say we need the whole process 00:10:03.013 --> 00:10:07.009 to stop now because it's for not the benefit 00:10:07.009 --> 00:10:11.011 of the greater community just makes me feel like I don't matter. 00:10:13.014 --> 00:10:15.001 Am I the sacrificial lamb? 00:10:15.001 --> 00:10:17.000 Do I have to wear that? 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:20.008 And I am a community member and I'm a very passionate person 00:10:20.008 --> 00:10:28.008 in the town and I have put a lot of years into supporting tourism, kids, employees, 00:10:28.008 --> 00:10:29.020 you know. 00:10:29.020 --> 00:10:31.008 My three kids have grown up there. 00:10:31.008 --> 00:10:36.022 So, yes, it has affected me but, you know, it certainly hasn't stopped me 00:10:36.022 --> 00:10:40.016 from planning a future there and using that land 00:10:40.016 --> 00:10:44.003 and still working with horses, but I'm still going to be doing the 00:10:44.003 --> 00:10:48.023 same thing, moving horses from one place to the other, and for you guys 00:10:48.023 --> 00:10:53.001 to sit there on a bench and say, "Well, sorry, we actually don't really care", 00:10:53.001 --> 00:10:57.022 it does matter to me, and that's all I want to say. 00:10:57.022 --> 00:11:00.009 So I think I'd really like you to consider that 00:11:00.009 --> 00:11:03.011 and even though I haven't got a business, it doesn't mean I'm going 00:11:03.011 --> 00:11:05.015 to not have a business in the next 10 or 20 years. 00:11:05.015 --> 00:11:07.014 I'm still going to be the one wearing that. 00:11:07.014 --> 00:11:09.010 Thank you. 00:11:09.010 --> 00:11:11.008 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you, Caroline. 00:11:14.007 --> 00:11:15.020 TIM WOOD: Righto, I might 00:11:15.020 --> 00:11:17.011 - again, I'm assuming 00:11:17.011 --> 00:11:19.011 - sorry, my name is Tim Wood. 00:11:19.011 --> 00:11:23.003 I'm assuming you guys all have a pretty good understanding 00:11:23.003 --> 00:11:24.016 of what we're talking about here. 00:11:24.016 --> 00:11:27.017 So there is a farm in between Aireys Inlet and Fairhaven. 00:11:27.017 --> 00:11:32.000 I understand that it would be naive to think that this doesn't involve 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:36.018 a fair level of emotion from the community, 00:11:36.018 --> 00:11:41.021 but this process has gone on for a ridiculous amount of time, 00:11:41.021 --> 00:11:43.009 to be perfectly honest with you. 00:11:46.020 --> 00:11:48.016 Anyway, this is where we find ourselves. 00:11:48.016 --> 00:11:53.010 So the Council report identified Blazing Saddles as the main reason 00:11:53.010 --> 00:11:59.009 for the bridge application, which I think probably lacks scope or 00:11:59.009 --> 00:12:00.022 vision. 00:12:00.022 --> 00:12:02.009 This is a farm. 00:12:02.009 --> 00:12:04.002 It's always been a farm. 00:12:04.002 --> 00:12:06.006 The Council 00:12:06.006 --> 00:12:12.004 - VCAT obviously issued a planning permit and I read "for buildings and works 00:12:12.004 --> 00:12:15.003 for the construction of a bridge and its use as a road 00:12:15.003 --> 00:12:17.022 for the management of livestock". 00:12:17.022 --> 00:12:19.009 That hasn't changed at all. 00:12:19.009 --> 00:12:21.019 I'm just going to go through a couple of things here. 00:12:21.019 --> 00:12:24.010 So the question seems to be, in speaking to Jake 00:12:24.010 --> 00:12:25.022 - we have a permit for a bridge. 00:12:25.022 --> 00:12:28.013 The question now is public benefit. 00:12:28.013 --> 00:12:31.004 So I did send you guys a brief letter. 00:12:31.004 --> 00:12:33.003 I'm just going to expand on it a little bit. 00:12:33.003 --> 00:12:38.006 So there is no allowable shedding on the Bambra Road side of this farm. 00:12:38.006 --> 00:12:40.011 The section 173 prevents it. 00:12:40.011 --> 00:12:44.021 We can't put a farm shed for tractors, for hay, for anything that requires you 00:12:44.021 --> 00:12:46.008 to run a farm. 00:12:46.008 --> 00:12:49.018 So it all has to come from our Bimbadeen Drive side. 00:12:49.018 --> 00:12:51.005 Now, I'm assuming 00:12:51.005 --> 00:12:54.002 - does everyone know what a hay fork is? 00:12:54.002 --> 00:13:00.018 In order to feed out, there's steel tines about four to five foot long go 00:13:00.018 --> 00:13:03.017 through a hay bail, you drive along the road with the hay bail, 00:13:03.017 --> 00:13:07.001 you drop the hay off and you drive back along the road with these hay spikes 00:13:07.001 --> 00:13:10.001 out the front of your car. 00:13:10.001 --> 00:13:15.009 It's a ridiculous proposition that that's a better way to do it than coming 00:13:15.009 --> 00:13:17.020 across a farm bridge. 00:13:17.020 --> 00:13:19.007 That's just one example. 00:13:19.007 --> 00:13:21.017 There's obviously chemicals, there's ploughs. 00:13:21.017 --> 00:13:24.009 Whatever we want to do to run that farm requires the use 00:13:24.009 --> 00:13:25.023 of machinery. 00:13:25.023 --> 00:13:31.003 A farm bridge enables us to go between paddocks instead of 00:13:31.003 --> 00:13:32.021 around three roads. 00:13:32.021 --> 00:13:36.015 Bambra Road is the second biggest road in Aireys Inlet. 00:13:36.015 --> 00:13:40.010 It has a school bus at the end of it, it has trucks for Barwon Water going 00:13:40.010 --> 00:13:45.001 down it, it has all the tradies coming from Birrego and Bambra. 00:13:45.001 --> 00:13:48.006 It has people walking up and down in prams, bike riders. 00:13:48.006 --> 00:13:49.023 It's a busy road. 00:13:49.023 --> 00:13:54.021 It's a ludicrous proposition to put farm machinery on it. 00:13:54.021 --> 00:13:57.018 As Caroline said, the second thing is livestock. 00:13:57.018 --> 00:13:59.023 Caroline breed and trains horses. 00:13:59.023 --> 00:14:01.011 She's always done this. 00:14:01.011 --> 00:14:04.012 Despite taking people trail riding, one of the things she does, 00:14:04.012 --> 00:14:06.008 she breeds them and trains them. 00:14:06.008 --> 00:14:11.013 If you get a young foal who's untrained and you need to get it around to our side 00:14:11.013 --> 00:14:15.022 of the farm, walking it on a public road is a ridiculous proposition. 00:14:15.022 --> 00:14:21.018 If we have a cow with a sore eye that we need to paddock, stable, feed, put vets 00:14:21.018 --> 00:14:26.007 on, walking a cow along a road is ridiculous. 00:14:26.007 --> 00:14:30.015 It's unnecessary, it's dangerous, it's daft. 00:14:30.015 --> 00:14:36.020 Now, just to further sort of prove this point, 00:14:36.020 --> 00:14:41.023 the State Government has a fund for the Victorian Farmers 00:14:41.023 --> 00:14:48.014 Federation which allocates $50,000 funds to farmers to put underpasses in, 00:14:48.014 --> 00:14:50.002 bridges in, to get 00:14:50.002 --> 00:14:55.015 - now, I should read this, right, "To get improved safety 00:14:55.015 --> 00:14:59.010 for Victorian farmers and all road users". 00:14:59.010 --> 00:15:06.015 There is literally a state fund to get machinery and stock off roads. 00:15:06.015 --> 00:15:09.010 So I understand that the government 00:15:09.010 --> 00:15:11.024 - this has gone for, what, four years. 00:15:11.024 --> 00:15:17.007 I understand why the governance department , and I gave Jake a hard time the 00:15:17.007 --> 00:15:22.015 other day, which I apologise for, but I understand why it would be 00:15:22.015 --> 00:15:24.022 a hard thing to come in too late. 00:15:24.022 --> 00:15:29.014 Caroline's business has closed, "Oh, well, Blazing Saddles is not there, 00:15:29.014 --> 00:15:31.002 it's probably not important", 00:15:31.002 --> 00:15:33.000 blah, blah, blah, and I understand that. 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:35.018 But this is clearly not the case. 00:15:35.018 --> 00:15:39.011 There is a very obvious public benefit of a bridge being there. 00:15:39.011 --> 00:15:40.023 It's obviously a benefit for us. 00:15:40.023 --> 00:15:44.000 It makes it a lot easier for Caroline and safer for Caroline, but it 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:45.018 is bigger than that. 00:15:45.018 --> 00:15:48.006 It is a super obvious public benefit. 00:15:48.006 --> 00:15:51.015 I also saw in your report they're worried about the risk of someone coming 00:15:51.015 --> 00:15:54.013 into a horse where the bridge is. 00:15:54.013 --> 00:15:56.023 There is virtually no access to where the bridge is. 00:15:56.023 --> 00:15:58.021 You can't see it, you can't do it. 00:15:58.021 --> 00:16:03.015 The risk of that compared to the risk to the public on the roads 00:16:03.015 --> 00:16:05.011 is absolutely minuscule. 00:16:05.011 --> 00:16:10.023 Knowing this risk and allowing it to me makes no sense for you guys. 00:16:10.023 --> 00:16:14.008 Why would the shire want to put themselves in the position where 00:16:14.008 --> 00:16:17.002 they have a knowable risk and they allow it to happen 00:16:17.002 --> 00:16:19.023 - to Caroline, to her staff, to the public? 00:16:19.023 --> 00:16:22.002 It makes no sense. 00:16:22.002 --> 00:16:28.010 As I said, I understand that this has been a political exercise, but this 00:16:28.010 --> 00:16:29.023 is a no-brainer, guys. 00:16:29.023 --> 00:16:31.011 It's a bridge that nobody can see. 00:16:31.011 --> 00:16:33.021 All the environmental assessments have been done. 00:16:33.021 --> 00:16:36.006 It helps a farm run smoothly. 00:16:36.006 --> 00:16:37.018 It always was to be a farm. 00:16:37.018 --> 00:16:40.019 Everyone wants the farm to be a farm. 00:16:40.019 --> 00:16:42.009 That's what people in Aireys love. 00:16:42.009 --> 00:16:45.001 They want it to be managed, looked after, maintained. 00:16:45.001 --> 00:16:47.016 This bridge helps us to do that. 00:16:47.016 --> 00:16:49.011 Anyway, I rest my case. 00:16:49.011 --> 00:16:51.016 I hope sanity prevails. 00:16:51.016 --> 00:16:53.003 Thank you for listening. 00:16:53.003 --> 00:16:56.012 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thanks, Tim and Caroline, for coming and speaking. 00:16:56.012 --> 00:16:59.024 We have put a lot of time and thought and obviously because the matter is 00:16:59.024 --> 00:17:03.011 before us, I can't really talk about it, but I just wanted to let you know that 00:17:03.011 --> 00:17:06.018 we don't make these decisions lightly and we have had many discussions 00:17:06.018 --> 00:17:10.020 and considered this in depth, so thank you for coming and speaking with us. 00:17:10.020 --> 00:17:12.008 TIM WOOD: Cheers. 00:17:12.008 --> 00:17:14.012 CR PAUL BARKER: Can I just ask a quick question? 00:17:14.012 --> 00:17:16.000 TIM WOOD: Yes. 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:19.020 CR PAUL BARKER: When was Blazing Saddles closed and for what reason? 00:17:19.020 --> 00:17:22.006 CAROLINE WOOD: At the end of April last year. 00:17:22.006 --> 00:17:23.019 Look, I've worn myself out. 00:17:23.019 --> 00:17:26.021 I think it probably started during COVID and yeah. 00:17:26.021 --> 00:17:31.017 I mean, look, to be honest, a lot of it was having to walk horses myself 00:17:31.017 --> 00:17:35.020 around the roads because I was the only one that was able 00:17:35.020 --> 00:17:37.018 to do that a lot of the time. 00:17:37.018 --> 00:17:42.000 If we needed extra horses, I'd have to walk them around and back. 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:44.004 I was exhausted, yes. 00:17:44.004 --> 00:17:45.017 I just couldn't do it anymore. 00:17:45.017 --> 00:17:49.011 Also, you touched on it before, but having staffing issues 00:17:49.011 --> 00:17:53.011 and not being able to get staffing in at that time, 00:17:53.011 --> 00:17:57.018 I just found myself seven days a week and stressed off my head and kind 00:17:57.018 --> 00:17:59.006 of fell in a bit of a hole. 00:17:59.006 --> 00:18:01.018 CR PAUL BARKER: So if the bridge was built within a year 00:18:01.018 --> 00:18:05.017 of the initial planning application going in, what is the likelihood that 00:18:05.017 --> 00:18:07.024 you think Blazing Saddles would still be open? 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:12.000 CAROLINE WOOD: Oh, I can't answer that. 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:13.012 I couldn't tell you. 00:18:13.012 --> 00:18:15.007 I mean, I think that obviously it would 00:18:15.007 --> 00:18:16.019 have made life really 00:18:16.019 --> 00:18:18.022 - you know, it would have been much better. 00:18:18.022 --> 00:18:21.008 I think COVID probably did a lot of it. 00:18:21.008 --> 00:18:23.017 CR PAUL BARKER: Or the government response too. 00:18:23.017 --> 00:18:25.006 TIM WOOD: I think also there's a lot 00:18:25.006 --> 00:18:28.007 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Sorry, I think we're going to have to cut that 00:18:28.007 --> 00:18:31.018 off, but we've had a couple of questions and thank you so much for your time, 00:18:31.018 --> 00:18:33.006 Tim and Caroline. 00:18:33.006 --> 00:18:34.018 I appreciate that. 00:18:34.018 --> 00:18:36.023 We're going to move on to our public questions. 00:18:36.023 --> 00:18:38.010 Thanks so much. 00:18:38.010 --> 00:18:41.004 So we do have some public questions that came through prior 00:18:41.004 --> 00:18:42.016 to the Council meeting. 00:18:42.016 --> 00:18:44.010 So we have Andrew Kelly I think is here. 00:18:44.010 --> 00:18:48.008 Did you want to come up and speak, ask your question directly? 00:18:48.008 --> 00:18:50.001 ANDREW KELLY: Yes, thanks very much. 00:18:50.001 --> 00:18:51.013 Andrew Kelly is my name. 00:18:51.013 --> 00:18:54.001 I'm here with my wife, Jessie. 00:18:54.001 --> 00:18:57.022 Tonight a very full agenda for you all. 00:18:57.022 --> 00:19:02.022 I was trying to swot last night and understand how these things operate, 00:19:02.022 --> 00:19:07.000 so this is a departure from the agenda. 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:11.007 I understand that mostly you deal with questions that are part 00:19:11.007 --> 00:19:12.020 of the agenda. 00:19:12.020 --> 00:19:17.014 So I wouldn't be here, obviously, if I didn't think this was an 00:19:17.014 --> 00:19:21.011 important issue and again, as was mentioned reasonably eloquently 00:19:21.011 --> 00:19:27.014 by the former speakers, I think that the announcement that 00:19:27.014 --> 00:19:29.022 you made before the meeting about wellbeing 00:19:29.022 --> 00:19:33.005 and environment probably impacts a little bit on this particular issue 00:19:33.005 --> 00:19:35.008 that I want to bring to your attention. 00:19:35.008 --> 00:19:37.011 On reviewing the questions, they do look a bit 00:19:37.011 --> 00:19:45.006 - a little short, but I suppose I'm also not quite sure 00:19:45.006 --> 00:19:48.019 whether or not there was a word constraint upon that, 00:19:48.019 --> 00:19:53.016 so I thought maybe I'd just give a little bit of context for one minute. 00:19:53.016 --> 00:19:58.018 And whilst this may be an exercise in futility, having spoken with the police 00:19:58.018 --> 00:20:06.011 and also the local member and a Council officer about this, 00:20:06.011 --> 00:20:09.012 I suppose it would be easy to shrug and say, "Oh, well, this 00:20:09.012 --> 00:20:12.020 is a difficult issue and maybe it's too hard." 00:20:12.020 --> 00:20:16.007 So what I'm really looking for tonight is some sort of engagement as to 00:20:16.007 --> 00:20:20.017 whether or not it's worthwhile to do something about it 00:20:20.017 --> 00:20:24.002 as a community member and gather some support or 00:20:24.002 --> 00:20:27.010 whether or not it's just easier to stay in your lane and, you know, 00:20:27.010 --> 00:20:32.008 walk past what has been seen in public spaces. 00:20:32.008 --> 00:20:36.018 So with that in mind, there's these things called gatherings, 00:20:36.018 --> 00:20:40.003 as I've come to understand, and they're young people between the age 00:20:40.003 --> 00:20:46.009 of 12 and 16 ordinarily that gather through some sort of social media medium 00:20:46.009 --> 00:20:49.009 to congregate in a particular place. 00:20:49.009 --> 00:20:52.020 At least two gatherings of more than 150 young teenagers, 00:20:52.020 --> 00:20:58.000 and the police lady that I spoke to suggested that the latest one was 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:01.014 probably closer to 300 people, so it's my estimation that the police 00:21:01.014 --> 00:21:05.003 thought it was closer to 300, engaging in elicit 00:21:05.003 --> 00:21:10.017 and dangerous behaviour has occurred twice in Torquay this year alone, 00:21:10.017 --> 00:21:14.020 one on Australia Day and one most recently on the 11th of March. 00:21:14.020 --> 00:21:19.010 I can speak with great confidence about the gathering on the 11th of March 00:21:19.010 --> 00:21:24.004 because I attended it three times, twice on the night and once the morning 00:21:24.004 --> 00:21:30.010 after, to ascertain exactly what was going on. 00:21:30.010 --> 00:21:33.007 The damage to self is self-evident. 00:21:33.007 --> 00:21:34.020 First responders 00:21:34.020 --> 00:21:38.000 - I notice there's a policeman here with us, and he may well be well 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:39.012 across this 00:21:39.012 --> 00:21:43.012 - having to look after people that have some form 00:21:43.012 --> 00:21:47.020 of drug or alcohol on board, as opposed to being able to 00:21:47.020 --> 00:21:53.007 - and babysitting, as opposed to law enforcement must be a 00:21:53.007 --> 00:21:55.011 great frustration to them. 00:21:55.011 --> 00:21:58.012 The damage to self as well as the public amenity is evident. 00:21:58.012 --> 00:22:01.024 So what I was interested in is what is the Council doing to keep the community 00:22:01.024 --> 00:22:05.009 and these young people safe by ensuring such activities are not able 00:22:05.009 --> 00:22:07.015 to happen again in our neighbourhood? 00:22:07.015 --> 00:22:10.017 Now, I make that with no experience in this field at all, 00:22:10.017 --> 00:22:16.022 but I would have thought that it's easier just to stop it before it happens than 00:22:16.022 --> 00:22:19.002 to deal with it when it is happening. 00:22:19.002 --> 00:22:21.016 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thanks for your question, Andrew. 00:22:21.016 --> 00:22:24.019 I'll respond to that because I know you have two questions. 00:22:24.019 --> 00:22:26.006 Actually, do we 00:22:26.006 --> 00:22:29.011 - oh, no, actually, did you want to 00:22:29.011 --> 00:22:32.013 - ANDREW KELLY: I think they do move on from each other. 00:22:32.013 --> 00:22:35.019 Both of these have happened at holiday periods or public holiday 00:22:35.019 --> 00:22:39.018 weekends, and the next of those is Easter holidays, which is approaching, 00:22:39.018 --> 00:22:45.009 and young people emboldened by a lack of action and accountability 00:22:45.009 --> 00:22:46.022 from our community leaders 00:22:46.022 --> 00:22:48.018 - and I put everyone in that. 00:22:48.018 --> 00:22:54.012 As parents, we have a very important role to play as well, and being devoid 00:22:54.012 --> 00:22:57.007 of any tangible consequences that I can see anyway 00:22:57.007 --> 00:23:00.005 - others may be able to give me some examples 00:23:00.005 --> 00:23:03.016 of some consequences that have occurred other than people being affected 00:23:03.016 --> 00:23:06.018 by illicit substances, and particularly very, very young people 00:23:06.018 --> 00:23:13.007 - what can we as a community, inclusive of the Council, lawmakers, politicians, 00:23:13.007 --> 00:23:17.012 all tiers, parents and the people of Torquay do to counter this trend 00:23:17.012 --> 00:23:20.004 and put a stop to this before a tragedy occurs? 00:23:20.004 --> 00:23:24.005 And yes, I admit I've been extremely scarred 00:23:24.005 --> 00:23:29.009 by what was witnessed on that night with people in and out of consciousness, 00:23:29.009 --> 00:23:32.007 clearly drug affected, lying on front yards, pulling people 00:23:32.007 --> 00:23:41.024 out of trees, and it just seems to be a difficult issue that I'm keen 00:23:41.024 --> 00:23:43.012 to get your feedback. 00:23:43.012 --> 00:23:46.002 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thanks, Andrew, for your question. 00:23:46.002 --> 00:23:48.016 I appreciate you coming and speaking to us and I can hear 00:23:48.016 --> 00:23:51.016 from you that it was really challenging what you've experienced 00:23:51.016 --> 00:23:53.014 and we share your concerns. 00:23:53.014 --> 00:23:57.019 Myself personally, I have four young children and as a shire, 00:23:57.019 --> 00:24:00.003 we can share those concerns. 00:24:00.003 --> 00:24:05.018 And we're working with Torquay Police and government support and agencies, 00:24:05.018 --> 00:24:08.013 schools and parents to address these issues. 00:24:08.013 --> 00:24:11.013 Antisocial behaviour in public places falls 00:24:11.013 --> 00:24:14.016 under the jurisdiction of Victoria Police, who are aware 00:24:14.016 --> 00:24:17.008 of the recent gatherings in Torquay, and I would like 00:24:17.008 --> 00:24:20.022 to acknowledge the attendance of the current Torquay Acting Senior 00:24:20.022 --> 00:24:23.020 Sergeant, Andrew Harris, who has actually come here 00:24:23.020 --> 00:24:27.013 to the meeting today, so thank you for attending. 00:24:27.013 --> 00:24:31.022 And I would also like to thank Surf Coast Local Area Commander, 00:24:31.022 --> 00:24:35.000 Inspector Monique Leffanue, for providing a statement 00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:38.020 from Victoria Police, which I'll read out because we passed on your concerns 00:24:38.020 --> 00:24:42.020 to them: "Victoria Police are aware of multiple gatherings 00:24:42.020 --> 00:24:46.005 at Torquay beaches which have been attended by a large number of students 00:24:46.005 --> 00:24:48.023 from different schools across Torquay and Geelong areas. 00:24:48.023 --> 00:24:52.003 We want everyone to have a safe and enjoyable time on our beaches. 00:24:52.003 --> 00:24:54.024 However, underage drinking and antisocial behaviour 00:24:54.024 --> 00:24:56.011 will not be tolerated. 00:24:56.011 --> 00:25:00.001 Local police have been in regular contact with principals from schools 00:25:00.001 --> 00:25:03.001 across Torquay and Geelong region to encourage parents 00:25:03.001 --> 00:25:06.016 to have a conversation with their kids about the risks of underage drinking 00:25:06.016 --> 00:25:08.007 and antisocial behaviour. 00:25:08.007 --> 00:25:11.008 We want to reassure the community that local police will continue 00:25:11.008 --> 00:25:16.001 to maintain a high police presence with visible patrols on foot and on roads 00:25:16.001 --> 00:25:18.013 across Torquay's popular beach areas. 00:25:18.013 --> 00:25:21.024 Torquay police will continue to work with the Council and community 00:25:21.024 --> 00:25:25.000 to address concerns and are open to receiving any information 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:27.023 relating to offending, which impacts community safety. 00:25:27.023 --> 00:25:32.023 "So that's the statement from Victoria Police. 00:25:32.023 --> 00:25:36.010 Council will continue to liaise with Victoria Police as the lead authority 00:25:36.010 --> 00:25:40.000 on this matter and support the work Torquay police are 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:42.002 doing in this difficult situation. 00:25:42.002 --> 00:25:46.019 Parental responsibility is a crucial factor in ensuring the safety 00:25:46.019 --> 00:25:50.020 of young people and this is a key focus of the work of Council 00:25:50.020 --> 00:25:52.013 and partner organisations. 00:25:52.013 --> 00:25:56.012 We do so knowing that COVID impacts and cost of living increases are adding 00:25:56.012 --> 00:25:58.019 to the pressures felt by many families. 00:25:58.019 --> 00:26:02.014 Council supports the delivery of parent and guardian skills training provided 00:26:02.014 --> 00:26:05.002 by the Drummond Street, Geelong Regional Parenting 00:26:05.002 --> 00:26:08.000 and Barwon Child, Youth and Family. 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:10.018 We operate the Youth Lounge in Torquay three nights a week, 00:26:10.018 --> 00:26:13.019 which attracts up to 60 people each evening. 00:26:13.019 --> 00:26:17.009 Council delivers State Government-funded programs to support young people 00:26:17.009 --> 00:26:20.018 to gain employment, connect with their community, foster youth arts 00:26:20.018 --> 00:26:24.024 and music and support mental health and Council is supporting Head Space 00:26:24.024 --> 00:26:28.002 and Barwon Child, Youth and Family to deliver to specialist alcohol 00:26:28.002 --> 00:26:33.019 and other drug and mental health services in Torquay free of cost to residents. 00:26:33.019 --> 00:26:36.016 I've been advised that many of the young people gathering come 00:26:36.016 --> 00:26:39.009 from areas outside of the Surf Coast Shire, and that 00:26:39.009 --> 00:26:43.016 is not an excuse, but it adds to the complexity of managing the problem. 00:26:43.016 --> 00:26:46.019 As the Easter holidays approach, we urge parents and guardians 00:26:46.019 --> 00:26:49.024 to provide safe and engaging environments for their children. 00:26:49.024 --> 00:26:52.004 Furthermore, we encourage community members 00:26:52.004 --> 00:26:57.007 to report any suspicious or dangerous activities to Victoria Police immediately. 00:26:57.007 --> 00:27:02.011 And I can see that this may or may not hit the mark for you, Andrew, but it 00:27:02.011 --> 00:27:06.021 is something that's complex and we do need to work with Victoria Police and Shire, 00:27:06.021 --> 00:27:10.020 as we mentioned, is doing a number of activities to engage, connect with 00:27:10.020 --> 00:27:14.023 and provide those supports to families and our youth in the region. 00:27:14.023 --> 00:27:18.002 So I really appreciate you drawing this to our attention and 00:27:18.002 --> 00:27:21.016 to enable this further conversation around it. 00:27:21.016 --> 00:27:25.004 I think it's a work in progress. 00:27:25.004 --> 00:27:26.017 Thank you. 00:27:26.017 --> 00:27:28.024 ANDREW KELLY: Okay, proof will be in the pudding. 00:27:28.024 --> 00:27:30.011 Thank you. 00:27:30.011 --> 00:27:34.017 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Our next question is from Tony Watts. 00:27:34.017 --> 00:27:37.022 Did Tony Watts come to the Council meeting today? 00:27:37.022 --> 00:27:39.010 No? 00:27:39.010 --> 00:27:42.019 So on that, I will read out Tony's question and this one is more 00:27:42.019 --> 00:27:45.021 of an operational nature, so our CEO, Robyn Seymour, will respond 00:27:45.021 --> 00:27:47.008 to Tony's question. 00:27:47.008 --> 00:27:48.021 So the question 00:27:48.021 --> 00:27:50.009 - this is from Tony 00:27:50.009 --> 00:27:55.002 - "If Council decides to postpone the development 00:27:55.002 --> 00:27:59.024 of the Deans Marsh Hub, we urge Council to consider how the ongoing environmental 00:27:59.024 --> 00:28:02.004 damage to our community hall can be 00:28:02.004 --> 00:28:04.022 slowed during this three-year funding pause. 00:28:04.022 --> 00:28:07.019 Council records will show our community has requested this 00:28:07.019 --> 00:28:10.002 protection work for at least five years. 00:28:10.002 --> 00:28:13.022 Further extended delay could render our hall unusable, leaving us 00:28:13.022 --> 00:28:16.007 with no meeting facilities at all. 00:28:16.007 --> 00:28:19.019 Therefore, my question is will Council consider how the ongoing 00:28:19.019 --> 00:28:23.016 environmental damage to our heritage community hall can be 00:28:23.016 --> 00:28:27.009 slowed during the proposed three-year funding pause? 00:28:27.009 --> 00:28:30.024 Our heritage hall, Council's heritage hall, is in need 00:28:30.024 --> 00:28:32.011 of your protection. 00:28:32.011 --> 00:28:35.002 Thank you. 00:28:35.002 --> 00:28:39.002 "ROBYN SEYMOUR: Thank you, Tony, for your question and I can assure you 00:28:39.002 --> 00:28:42.012 that we will continue to ensure that the building 00:28:42.012 --> 00:28:46.014 is maintained so it's safe to be used. 00:28:46.014 --> 00:28:49.021 We don't believe that at the moment there's any immediate risks 00:28:49.021 --> 00:28:54.000 to the building from water or other environmental factors 00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:59.002 that will prevent it from being used safely in the coming years 00:28:59.002 --> 00:29:03.009 If we become aware of any new risks, we will, of course, 00:29:03.009 --> 00:29:08.011 consider what needs to be done about that and if you or anyone else believes there's 00:29:08.011 --> 00:29:12.016 something we haven't investigated, please let us know 00:29:12.016 --> 00:29:18.018 by putting a service request in so that we can look into it for you. 00:29:18.018 --> 00:29:24.008 There's probably a couple of other important points of context 00:29:24.008 --> 00:29:27.002 in responding to your question. 00:29:27.002 --> 00:29:32.012 Like many Councils, and in fact industry more broadly, 00:29:32.012 --> 00:29:36.005 our building renewal budget is being impacted by cost escalations. 00:29:36.005 --> 00:29:41.000 We're seeing really significant cost escalations across our program. 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:44.003 And so in developing our draft budget, we've had to look 00:29:44.003 --> 00:29:49.013 at when we might have funding available to fund some of our larger projects, 00:29:49.013 --> 00:29:54.018 such as the Winchelsea swimming pool and also the Deans Marsh hall. 00:29:54.018 --> 00:30:00.000 So working with community in Deans Marsh on the facility development plan 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.004 for the Deans Marsh Community Hub is proving very helpful 00:30:03.004 --> 00:30:07.021 to us understanding what options we have with the current building, 00:30:07.021 --> 00:30:11.009 what these might cost and therefore how much external funding 00:30:11.009 --> 00:30:15.009 we might need in developing the new hub and added 00:30:15.009 --> 00:30:18.002 to our own financial contribution. 00:30:18.002 --> 00:30:24.018 So given all of that, we will be bringing a plan 00:30:24.018 --> 00:30:30.016 to the Council meeting in May this year and then there 00:30:30.016 --> 00:30:34.011 will be a further public consultation on that draft plan based 00:30:34.011 --> 00:30:39.022 on the work we've been doing with the community in Deans Marsh. 00:30:39.022 --> 00:30:46.008 But given the heavy reliance we're likely to have on external funding 00:30:46.008 --> 00:30:51.008 for the redevelopment, the draft plan currently identifies 00:30:51.008 --> 00:30:54.007 - so when I say the draft plan, I mean the draft budget 00:30:54.007 --> 00:30:56.014 - currently identifies a potential three 00:30:56.014 --> 00:31:00.011 - to five-year timeframe for us to line up our funding and get support 00:31:00.011 --> 00:31:04.019 from other levels of funding in order to deliver this important community 00:31:04.019 --> 00:31:06.006 facility. 00:31:06.006 --> 00:31:09.019 But again, just to reassure you, in that timeframe we 00:31:09.019 --> 00:31:14.010 will ensure that the building is maintained so it's safe and usable 00:31:14.010 --> 00:31:19.004 during this time until we can redevelop the hub. 00:31:19.004 --> 00:31:20.016 Tony, thanks for your question. 00:31:22.020 --> 00:31:24.019 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you, Ms Seymour. 00:31:24.019 --> 00:31:30.005 I have just realised we needed to actually note the presentations 00:31:30.005 --> 00:31:35.005 by Caroline and Tim Wood, so can I have a mover to note the receipt 00:31:35.005 --> 00:31:38.007 of the written submission from Tim and Caroline, 00:31:38.007 --> 00:31:43.011 and we have the recommendation on the screen. 00:31:43.011 --> 00:31:46.018 Councillor Stapleton, moved as per the recommendation. 00:31:46.018 --> 00:31:48.006 CR LIBBY STAPLETON: Yes. 00:31:48.006 --> 00:31:49.020 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: And seconded? 00:31:49.020 --> 00:31:51.007 Councillor Bodsworth. 00:31:51.007 --> 00:31:52.020 All in favour? 00:31:56.011 --> 00:31:58.002 Opposed? 00:31:58.002 --> 00:31:59.015 Did you vote, Paul? 00:31:59.015 --> 00:32:01.002 CR PAUL BARKER: Yes. 00:32:01.002 --> 00:32:02.015 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Yes, okay. 00:32:02.015 --> 00:32:04.006 The motion is carried unanimously. 00:32:04.006 --> 00:32:05.018 Thank you. 00:32:05.018 --> 00:32:07.014 We'll now move on to petitions. 00:32:07.014 --> 00:32:11.014 There are no petitions received tonight and there are also no notices of motion 00:32:11.014 --> 00:32:13.002 for tonight's Council meeting. 00:32:13.002 --> 00:32:17.018 So we move on to the big part of the meeting, the reports. 00:32:17.018 --> 00:32:26.019 So our first report is in relation to the request to licence land adjacent 00:32:26.019 --> 00:32:28.007 to Painkalac Creek. 00:32:28.007 --> 00:32:31.024 The purpose of this report is for Council to consider the request from landowner 00:32:31.024 --> 00:32:36.000 to grant exclusive licences on Council-owned land and Council-managed 00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:39.005 Crown land for the purpose of accessing a proposed bridge 00:32:39.005 --> 00:32:41.011 over the Painkalac Creek and Aireys Inlet. 00:32:41.011 --> 00:32:45.007 Officers are recommending that the Council does not grant these licences. 00:32:45.007 --> 00:32:47.021 Do I have a mover? 00:32:47.021 --> 00:32:49.008 Councillor Bodsworth. 00:32:49.008 --> 00:32:50.021 Is it as per the recommendation? 00:32:50.021 --> 00:32:52.016 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: Yes, thanks, Mayor. 00:32:52.016 --> 00:32:54.018 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: And do I have a seconder? 00:32:54.018 --> 00:32:56.005 Councillor Stapleton. 00:32:56.005 --> 00:32:58.007 Councillor Bodsworth, do you wish to speak? 00:32:58.007 --> 00:32:59.024 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: Thank you, Mayor. 00:32:59.024 --> 00:33:02.012 So I'd like to start by acknowledging the Wadawurrung 00:33:02.012 --> 00:33:05.016 and Eastern Maar traditional owners, as Painkalac Creek is thought 00:33:05.016 --> 00:33:09.002 to have marked a boundary zone between Wadawurrung and Gadubanud country 00:33:09.002 --> 00:33:11.023 and the Creek is now the boundary between Wadawurrung 00:33:11.023 --> 00:33:15.024 and Eastern Maar registered Aboriginal party areas. 00:33:15.024 --> 00:33:21.004 I believe that boundary status brings an extra significance to Painkalac Creek. 00:33:21.004 --> 00:33:24.004 I also congratulate the Eastern Maar Aboriginal Corporation 00:33:24.004 --> 00:33:28.002 on the hugely significant native title determination announced this 00:33:28.002 --> 00:33:31.008 morning in Warnambool. 00:33:31.008 --> 00:33:35.009 I would like to thank Caroline and Tim for your submission 00:33:35.009 --> 00:33:41.022 and I can tell you that as a person who hates conflict, 00:33:41.022 --> 00:33:45.005 I don't relish this side of sitting in the Council chair 00:33:45.005 --> 00:33:51.012 because I can see how deeply this affects you both. 00:33:51.012 --> 00:33:56.023 It affects other people in the district deeply as well on both sides 00:33:56.023 --> 00:34:03.023 of the argument and so I, like all the rest of us, take this seriously 00:34:03.023 --> 00:34:10.004 and feel the emotional investment that you have in this really deeply. 00:34:10.004 --> 00:34:14.019 So I thank you for coming along, submitting to us and being part 00:34:14.019 --> 00:34:17.009 of this discussion tonight. 00:34:17.009 --> 00:34:18.022 I'll explain 00:34:18.022 --> 00:34:23.016 - I think the report explains the situation well and I support the recommendation not 00:34:23.016 --> 00:34:27.012 to grant exclusive licences as it's written. 00:34:27.012 --> 00:34:31.006 I'll explain my reasoning and look forward to hearing from fellow Councillors. 00:34:33.015 --> 00:34:37.024 It's normal for development and use of land, including farming operations, 00:34:37.024 --> 00:34:40.021 to be constrained by the nature of the environment and the lay 00:34:40.021 --> 00:34:42.014 of the land. 00:34:42.014 --> 00:34:44.024 One option might be to alter the environment 00:34:44.024 --> 00:34:48.024 to suit the farming operation or the land use might be altered 00:34:48.024 --> 00:34:51.008 to suit the environment. 00:34:51.008 --> 00:34:54.009 To me, if a natural unbridged waterway runs 00:34:54.009 --> 00:34:58.000 between the applicant's property and a property they lease, 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.016 that naturally limits options for use and development 00:35:00.016 --> 00:35:02.017 of the separate properties. 00:35:02.017 --> 00:35:07.000 I don't believe we should intervene to remove that natural limitation 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.012 through the issuing of a licence when that's not a privilege 00:35:10.012 --> 00:35:15.014 we extend to all landowners and lessees facing similar constraints. 00:35:15.014 --> 00:35:19.005 At this time, in considering whether or not to allow a licence, 00:35:19.005 --> 00:35:21.022 I believe the question of public benefit that was central 00:35:21.022 --> 00:35:26.001 to VCAT's consideration of the planning permit application 00:35:26.001 --> 00:35:30.005 is still relevant and I believe the public benefit implicit 00:35:30.005 --> 00:35:34.004 in this licence application is minimal. 00:35:34.004 --> 00:35:37.000 The applicant's points regarding the movement of livestock 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:40.003 and farm vehicles describes a situation that occurs on lots 00:35:40.003 --> 00:35:43.024 of rural roads in the shire and around the world. 00:35:43.024 --> 00:35:49.003 It's not an extraordinary situation that warrants a high-impact intervention. 00:35:49.003 --> 00:35:53.003 I do agree with the applicant's points about Bambra Road potentially offering a 00:35:53.003 --> 00:35:57.016 great walking and cycling route if not for risks and accessibility 00:35:57.016 --> 00:36:02.005 and amenity issues associated with vehicle traffic, and further 00:36:02.005 --> 00:36:05.005 to that point, although it's not the proposal before us, 00:36:05.005 --> 00:36:10.009 I could imagine a bridge that was not for exclusive use and formed part 00:36:10.009 --> 00:36:14.001 of a public pathway across the floodplain linking Fairhaven 00:36:14.001 --> 00:36:17.009 and areas and connecting to a Painkalac loop walk 00:36:17.009 --> 00:36:21.011 as shown in the 2015 Aireys to Eastern View Structure Plan. 00:36:21.011 --> 00:36:24.016 It could potentially be licensed for non-exclusive 00:36:24.016 --> 00:36:29.008 commercial use, but the primary benefit would be public. 00:36:29.008 --> 00:36:32.008 That's a discussion for another day. 00:36:32.008 --> 00:36:36.019 As far as the licence application before us is concerned, I urge Councillors 00:36:36.019 --> 00:36:40.012 to support the recommendation to not grant an exclusive licence. 00:36:40.012 --> 00:36:42.008 Thank you. 00:36:42.008 --> 00:36:45.013 CR ADRIAN SCHONFELDER: Mayor, I have a question to ask if I may. 00:36:45.013 --> 00:36:47.005 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Of the officers? 00:36:47.005 --> 00:36:48.018 CR SCHONFELDER: Yes. 00:36:48.018 --> 00:36:55.007 And my question is a bridge did exist over the creek for some time. 00:36:55.007 --> 00:36:58.002 I'd just like that to be confirmed. 00:36:58.002 --> 00:37:03.006 And my second question is about traffic volumes and movements, 00:37:03.006 --> 00:37:08.019 whether in the roads described from the Woods, has there been an increase 00:37:08.019 --> 00:37:12.024 in traffic volumes, because I would suggest there would be? 00:37:15.009 --> 00:37:20.012 ROBYN SEYMOUR: Councillor Schonfelder, there was a bridge across the Painkalac. 00:37:20.012 --> 00:37:24.002 In terms of traffic volumes and how that's changed, 00:37:24.002 --> 00:37:26.008 I don't have that data with me. 00:37:26.008 --> 00:37:32.023 I can only kind of make a subjective sort of comment about the fact that 00:37:32.023 --> 00:37:37.000 as the region becomes more popular, you would anticipate that there would be 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:40.024 more activity on the road and that it would be getting busier, 00:37:40.024 --> 00:37:48.018 but I don't have the data to be able to confirm that, unless anyone else does. 00:37:48.018 --> 00:37:50.008 CR ADRIAN SCHONFELDER: Thank you. 00:37:50.008 --> 00:37:51.020 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 00:37:51.020 --> 00:37:53.008 Councillor Stapleton. 00:37:53.008 --> 00:37:56.004 CR LIBBY STAPLETON: Thanks, Liz. 00:37:56.004 --> 00:38:00.005 Some decisions that come to Council are harder to make than others 00:38:00.005 --> 00:38:03.014 and for me this one is particularly challenging, 00:38:03.014 --> 00:38:08.013 and I do understand the investment, both professional and personal, 00:38:08.013 --> 00:38:13.003 that the applicants, Tim and Caroline, have made in wanting 00:38:13.003 --> 00:38:16.013 to install this bridge and I really do understand their reasons 00:38:16.013 --> 00:38:19.005 for wanting it. 00:38:19.005 --> 00:38:23.022 Just also an acknowledgment of your submission earlier, I would hate 00:38:23.022 --> 00:38:27.005 for anyone to think that we sit up here and we don't care 00:38:27.005 --> 00:38:31.019 about the individual needs of people involved. 00:38:31.019 --> 00:38:36.005 We care deeply and it is all the more why it makes it such 00:38:36.005 --> 00:38:38.017 a difficult decision. 00:38:38.017 --> 00:38:44.000 However, as Council, we have a duty to protect public land and 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:48.005 in our Council plan, we have a goal to ensure that growth and development 00:38:48.005 --> 00:38:53.007 across the shire are not at the expense of environmental values. 00:38:53.007 --> 00:38:57.007 We also have a strategy in place to protect significant habitats, 00:38:57.007 --> 00:39:00.009 landscapes and biodiversity. 00:39:00.009 --> 00:39:06.011 I'm aware that in 2005 Council developed the Painkalac Estuary Management Plan, 00:39:06.011 --> 00:39:08.023 which speaks to the significant environmental 00:39:08.023 --> 00:39:11.024 and cultural values of the Painkalac Creek and valley, 00:39:11.024 --> 00:39:16.010 and that at a national level there is an ecological community listed 00:39:16.010 --> 00:39:19.018 for the Painkalac Estuary under the Federal Environment Protection 00:39:19.018 --> 00:39:22.023 and Biodiversity Conservation Act. 00:39:22.023 --> 00:39:26.000 Interestingly, one of the actions that I read 00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:29.014 in the Painkalac Estuary Management Plan is to ensure that any structures, 00:39:29.014 --> 00:39:33.018 including signage, are low key and do not impact on the landscape values 00:39:33.018 --> 00:39:35.023 of the site. 00:39:35.023 --> 00:39:39.004 With this in mind, and the information that's been presented 00:39:39.004 --> 00:39:44.021 to us in our agenda report tonight, we must consider whether public land 00:39:44.021 --> 00:39:49.019 of significant environmental value should be licensed for private purposes. 00:39:49.019 --> 00:39:52.017 With the closure of Blazing Saddles, it is hard 00:39:52.017 --> 00:39:56.010 to identify broad public benefit that I believe would be required 00:39:56.010 --> 00:39:59.022 to justify granting a licence. 00:39:59.022 --> 00:40:05.012 I do appreciate the safety concerns that Tim and Caroline have raised in terms 00:40:05.012 --> 00:40:10.006 of the movement of horses and farm vehicles along Bambra Road and, 00:40:10.006 --> 00:40:12.024 as Councillor Bodsworth mentioned, I think it's relevant 00:40:12.024 --> 00:40:17.019 to consider Council's longer-term vision that's outlined in the 2015 Aireys 00:40:17.019 --> 00:40:21.021 Inlet Structure Plan, which does outline a proposed pathway 00:40:21.021 --> 00:40:25.001 along Bambra Road and could potentially mitigate some 00:40:25.001 --> 00:40:30.011 of the concerns that have been raised around risks to the public, and part 00:40:30.011 --> 00:40:33.002 of that vision was also to possibly connect other parts 00:40:33.002 --> 00:40:37.010 of the Painkalac Valley with walkways to provide public access for people 00:40:37.010 --> 00:40:41.020 to enjoy the area in a low-key, environmentally sensitive way. 00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:48.018 I should also note that residents have regularly raised with me concerns 00:40:48.018 --> 00:40:54.014 around the speed limits on Bambra Road, and I know that's somewhat of a diversion 00:40:54.014 --> 00:40:57.011 but it's relevant to some of the safety concerns that have been 00:40:57.011 --> 00:41:00.018 raised and I hope that it's something that Council can look at as part 00:41:00.018 --> 00:41:06.018 of the future amenity and safety for all public accessing the Painkalac Valley. 00:41:06.018 --> 00:41:08.005 But getting back 00:41:08.005 --> 00:41:10.018 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: You've actually gone over time. 00:41:10.018 --> 00:41:12.005 CR LIBBY STAPLETON: Oh, sorry. 00:41:12.005 --> 00:41:13.018 Thank you. 00:41:13.018 --> 00:41:16.007 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you, Councillor Stapleton. 00:41:16.007 --> 00:41:19.009 Do any other Councillors wish to speak, Councillor Schonfelder. 00:41:19.009 --> 00:41:21.006 CR ADRIAN SCHONFELDER: Thank you, Mayor. 00:41:21.006 --> 00:41:24.013 And I concur with my fellow colleagues that it's not always an easy task 00:41:24.013 --> 00:41:29.023 to make decisions in the chamber concerning people's livelihoods. 00:41:29.023 --> 00:41:33.011 However, I should confess that I am a hippophile, 00:41:33.011 --> 00:41:37.005 and I'm not sure how many people here know the meaning of that, 00:41:37.005 --> 00:41:40.005 but it means a lover of horses. 00:41:40.005 --> 00:41:43.013 I was a member of the Barwon Valley Pony Club 00:41:43.013 --> 00:41:46.002 and I've actually ridden on roads where people have 00:41:46.002 --> 00:41:48.001 done burnouts deliberately. 00:41:48.001 --> 00:41:52.015 I've actually ridden down my local road, Andersons Road, Barrabool, 00:41:52.015 --> 00:41:55.000 where I was not far from the Princes Highway 00:41:55.000 --> 00:42:02.009 and a dog chased me and I was about 11 and I ended up on the horse's neck. 00:42:02.009 --> 00:42:04.019 That's how dangerous that was. 00:42:04.019 --> 00:42:09.020 I believe the traffic volumes have increased enormously 00:42:09.020 --> 00:42:15.013 and we welcome tourists and we welcome their input 00:42:15.013 --> 00:42:20.004 to the local economy to help businesses, and as far as our motto 00:42:20.004 --> 00:42:24.011 is concerned with wellbeing, it does concern local businesses 00:42:24.011 --> 00:42:27.016 as well who employ local people. 00:42:27.016 --> 00:42:33.015 I feel the fact that a bridge did exist over the creek has a strong bearing 00:42:33.015 --> 00:42:37.021 on this case and I believe that was used for a long time. 00:42:37.021 --> 00:42:43.014 So I would ask my colleagues to reconsider how they're feeling 00:42:43.014 --> 00:42:49.016 about this item because safety, public safety and the safety 00:42:49.016 --> 00:42:52.018 of transporting livestock across the creek, 00:42:52.018 --> 00:42:55.015 just seems very practical to me. 00:42:55.015 --> 00:43:02.008 And I do support helping the environment and I believe that you both would as well 00:43:02.008 --> 00:43:07.015 and helping waterway areas, and the fact that you mentioned 00:43:07.015 --> 00:43:11.021 about the Farmers Federation, that they allow funding, and I know 00:43:11.021 --> 00:43:18.002 on Devon Road in Barrabool there's an underpass under that road 00:43:18.002 --> 00:43:20.005 for livestock as well. 00:43:20.005 --> 00:43:27.017 Also, with fire danger, we had an evacuation nearby recently 00:43:27.017 --> 00:43:32.024 where just over a week ago we had a 37 degree day and I'm just concerned 00:43:32.024 --> 00:43:40.007 about areas that are highly populated and traffic movements when a fire occurs, 00:43:40.007 --> 00:43:44.024 what happens with the livestock, and we see with Black Saturday there was 00:43:44.024 --> 00:43:51.004 like panic and tragedies actually occurred. 00:43:51.004 --> 00:43:57.011 So I will be voting against this item because I believe that a bridge 00:43:57.011 --> 00:43:58.023 should be allowed. 00:43:58.023 --> 00:44:02.018 Once again, there was a bridge that did exist there 00:44:02.018 --> 00:44:10.012 and I just hope that my colleagues can see the practical aspect 00:44:10.012 --> 00:44:13.004 of this that I've reported. 00:44:13.004 --> 00:44:15.000 Thank you, Mayor. 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:16.012 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 00:44:16.012 --> 00:44:18.000 Councillor Allen. 00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:19.012 CR GARY ALLEN: Thanks, Mayor. 00:44:19.012 --> 00:44:21.009 Could we just stop the clock for a moment? 00:44:21.009 --> 00:44:24.007 I just wanted to refer to a point that Councillor Bodsworth made 00:44:24.007 --> 00:44:26.017 which I think is not accurate. 00:44:26.017 --> 00:44:30.017 The Supreme Court decision handed down today extends the Eastern Maar, 00:44:30.017 --> 00:44:33.015 as far as I understand it, to Kennett River, not as far 00:44:33.015 --> 00:44:35.008 as Painkalac Creek. 00:44:35.008 --> 00:44:40.017 I think perhaps, if that's the case, we should set the record straight. 00:44:40.017 --> 00:44:43.022 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: I'll pass that on to Ms Gail Gatt. 00:44:43.022 --> 00:44:46.022 MS GAIL GATT: Yes, that's my understanding from attending today 00:44:46.022 --> 00:44:48.021 and seeing the map that was provided. 00:44:48.021 --> 00:44:51.022 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: So what Councillor Allen has said is correct, 00:44:51.022 --> 00:44:53.010 just to clarify? 00:44:53.010 --> 00:44:56.015 MS GAIL GATT: The area that was determined today, the boundary is west 00:44:56.015 --> 00:44:58.002 of Kennett River. 00:44:58.002 --> 00:44:59.020 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Okay, thank you. 00:44:59.020 --> 00:45:03.004 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: If I can just clarify, I was talking about the boundary 00:45:03.004 --> 00:45:06.011 of the registered Aboriginal party area, which is a bit bureaucratic, 00:45:06.011 --> 00:45:12.001 but it does extend to the Painkalac, whereas the native title determination, 00:45:12.001 --> 00:45:15.023 as Gail just outlined, does not, so just to clarify. 00:45:15.023 --> 00:45:18.018 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Okay, thank you. 00:45:18.018 --> 00:45:21.004 CR GARY ALLEN: The journey of the applicant relating 00:45:21.004 --> 00:45:25.001 to the existing permit held has been a long and complex one. 00:45:25.001 --> 00:45:29.009 However, the changed circumstance to me is a fairly straightforward one 00:45:29.009 --> 00:45:32.002 - blazing Saddles closed. 00:45:32.002 --> 00:45:36.004 The community benefit of employment and tourism opportunities referred 00:45:36.004 --> 00:45:41.005 to in the VCAT determination relevant to the permit have been significantly 00:45:41.005 --> 00:45:42.017 reduced. 00:45:42.017 --> 00:45:45.013 Therefore, we must turn our attention to the question 00:45:45.013 --> 00:45:48.017 of who should primarily benefit from Council-owned 00:45:48.017 --> 00:45:50.023 land and Council land managed 00:45:50.023 --> 00:45:55.000 - sorry, Crown land managed by the Council. 00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:59.016 There is little doubt in my mind that this is the community, the public. 00:45:59.016 --> 00:46:01.024 We have a very strong tradition in this country 00:46:01.024 --> 00:46:05.006 of not allowing exclusive private use of Crown land. 00:46:07.010 --> 00:46:11.008 When we as a Council have the opportunity to exercise our responsibility 00:46:11.008 --> 00:46:15.017 to manage Crown land, particularly that surrounding waterways, 00:46:15.017 --> 00:46:20.023 we must act to protect water quality, native flora and native fauna. 00:46:20.023 --> 00:46:25.000 We should decide in favour of the common good. 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:29.010 This view I believe is shared by the majority of the Aireys Inlet, 00:46:29.010 --> 00:46:31.010 Fairhaven and Moggs Creek communities. 00:46:31.010 --> 00:46:34.022 For example, the Aireys Inlet and District Association, 00:46:34.022 --> 00:46:40.012 which has a membership base of 450 people, has clearly articulated their support 00:46:40.012 --> 00:46:44.012 for the preservation of the creek, its special character, 00:46:44.012 --> 00:46:46.019 and that the issuing of an exclusive licence 00:46:46.019 --> 00:46:51.008 to a private operator would be inconsistent with the relevant provisions 00:46:51.008 --> 00:46:56.014 of the Crown Land (Reserves) Act 1978. 00:46:56.014 --> 00:46:59.017 This view is supported in the VCAT decision. 00:46:59.017 --> 00:47:03.018 The permit was granted because of the economic and tourist benefit 00:47:03.018 --> 00:47:08.020 to the community but, and I quote from the determination, 00:47:08.020 --> 00:47:13.017 "It would have been quite a different assessment exercise if, 00:47:13.017 --> 00:47:17.000 for example, the use of the road was proposed 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:23.002 on this Crown land for purely the benefit of a residential landowner". 00:47:23.002 --> 00:47:27.001 Since the release of the meeting papers, I have received no requests 00:47:27.001 --> 00:47:30.020 from shire residents to grant an exclusive licence. 00:47:30.020 --> 00:47:32.016 Thank you. 00:47:32.016 --> 00:47:35.011 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Do any other Councillors wish to speak. 00:47:35.011 --> 00:47:36.024 Councillor Hodge. 00:47:36.024 --> 00:47:40.004 CR ROSE HODGE: Yes, I was part of the Council that made the decision not 00:47:40.004 --> 00:47:43.000 to grant the planning permit last time and it was taken to VCAT 00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:47.000 and we were wrong, and I apologise for the Woods and the years that have gone 00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:48.012 on from that. 00:47:48.012 --> 00:47:51.011 Now, I know things have changed and I know it's licensing 00:47:51.011 --> 00:47:56.017 and when you look at 17.1 and 17.2 in why we did refuse it 00:47:56.017 --> 00:47:58.006 and VCAT overturned it. 00:47:58.006 --> 00:48:02.005 So I won't be supporting this item. 00:48:02.005 --> 00:48:06.005 I think we could have talked to the Woods more, gone and had a look 00:48:06.005 --> 00:48:13.002 at the breeding program or whatever is happening and I agree that there 00:48:13.002 --> 00:48:15.018 is safety needed around those roads. 00:48:15.018 --> 00:48:18.017 So I know it's been a very long and drawn-out process and 00:48:18.017 --> 00:48:21.004 if COVID hadn't hit and your business was there, 00:48:21.004 --> 00:48:23.004 that bridge would be in place now. 00:48:23.004 --> 00:48:24.019 So I won't be supporting this item. 00:48:28.009 --> 00:48:30.010 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Councillor Wellington. 00:48:33.006 --> 00:48:35.004 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Thanks very much. 00:48:35.004 --> 00:48:38.001 Look, I also was present at the previous Council 00:48:38.001 --> 00:48:40.022 which didn't support this. 00:48:40.022 --> 00:48:42.021 I think VCAT had a different view. 00:48:42.021 --> 00:48:45.007 I don't know that there's a right or wrong about that. 00:48:45.007 --> 00:48:47.002 It's a matter of judgment really. 00:48:47.002 --> 00:48:49.010 But I was surprised that VCAT didn't support it, 00:48:49.010 --> 00:48:53.022 usually I find VCAT pretty predictable, but of course I respect that decision. 00:48:56.009 --> 00:48:59.006 I think, you know, it was always the case that there were 00:48:59.006 --> 00:49:01.012 going to be two decisions associated with this. 00:49:01.012 --> 00:49:06.015 One was a planning permit decision and one was a decision about the licensing 00:49:06.015 --> 00:49:09.009 under the Crown Land (Reserves) Act. 00:49:09.009 --> 00:49:11.020 I emphasise it's not a personal matter and I agree 00:49:11.020 --> 00:49:14.011 with Councillor Allen very much in this regard. 00:49:14.011 --> 00:49:16.003 I'm very sorry for the Woods. 00:49:16.003 --> 00:49:23.006 I know these planning issues are very difficult and ones that go on 00:49:23.006 --> 00:49:27.000 for a long time are costly and they're stressful and I'm really sorry 00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:32.003 at a personal level about that, but in terms of our job is always to look 00:49:32.003 --> 00:49:35.013 at the land, not the people, not what the current people are doing 00:49:35.013 --> 00:49:37.018 but what the benefit is for the land. 00:49:37.018 --> 00:49:44.001 I was a bit surprised, actually, that VCAT decided that the public benefit 00:49:44.001 --> 00:49:46.012 was so significant in the case of a private business. 00:49:46.012 --> 00:49:51.013 So I think now that that private business has closed, there 00:49:51.013 --> 00:49:56.022 is absolutely no justification for us to approve a licence. 00:49:56.022 --> 00:49:59.020 In my view, we should never own that public land unless there's 00:49:59.020 --> 00:50:02.010 a clearly demonstrable and, most importantly, 00:50:02.010 --> 00:50:07.000 sustainable public benefit and when that public benefit is dependent 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.019 on the actions of individuals who run businesses 00:50:09.019 --> 00:50:12.011 and own some land or lease some land, or whatever, 00:50:12.011 --> 00:50:18.002 I think it's not a solid foundation on which to make long-term 00:50:18.002 --> 00:50:20.014 planning decisions. 00:50:20.014 --> 00:50:24.012 So, from my perspective, there is no difficulty in making this decision, 00:50:24.012 --> 00:50:27.022 but I do recognise it's a very difficult decision for the Woods. 00:50:29.023 --> 00:50:34.016 I don't agree at all that it shows a lack of good faith by Council. 00:50:34.016 --> 00:50:42.000 Council did reject this in the past and things changed 00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.018 and any public benefit no longer exists. 00:50:45.018 --> 00:50:49.009 So I support the recommendation wholeheartedly. 00:50:49.009 --> 00:50:51.000 In my view, no permit should issue 00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:54.011 - no licence, I should say, should issue. 00:50:54.011 --> 00:50:56.003 Thank you. 00:50:56.003 --> 00:50:57.016 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 00:50:57.016 --> 00:50:59.003 Councillor Gazzard. 00:50:59.003 --> 00:51:00.016 CR KATE GAZZARD: Thank you. 00:51:00.016 --> 00:51:04.003 Thank you, Caroline and Tim, for coming in and presenting your submission. 00:51:04.003 --> 00:51:09.005 I do really sympathise the years of hard work that you've put in 00:51:09.005 --> 00:51:13.009 and I'm sorry that you've had to close your business. 00:51:13.009 --> 00:51:17.010 I can imagine years of this planning permit have taken, 00:51:17.010 --> 00:51:23.023 you know, a financial, emotional and physical toll on you, but on balance, 00:51:23.023 --> 00:51:30.019 I think the environmental protection of Painkalac Creek is important 00:51:30.019 --> 00:51:36.006 and the consideration for the whole of the Aireys Inlet Community, 00:51:36.006 --> 00:51:38.021 on balance I support the recommendation. 00:51:40.022 --> 00:51:42.009 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 00:51:42.009 --> 00:51:43.022 Councillor Barker. 00:51:43.022 --> 00:51:45.009 CR PAUL BARKER: Thanks, Mayor. 00:51:45.009 --> 00:51:47.012 Had Blazing Saddles still been in operation, 00:51:47.012 --> 00:51:49.021 I would have likely opposed this recommendation, 00:51:49.021 --> 00:51:52.012 though it likely wouldn't have come to this chamber. 00:51:52.012 --> 00:51:54.021 Since that business is now closed, on the surface, 00:51:54.021 --> 00:51:57.010 the recommendation makes sense as a bridge being built 00:51:57.010 --> 00:52:00.015 on public land would give primary benefit to the adjacent landowner. 00:52:00.015 --> 00:52:04.008 But since hearing from Caroline and Tim, I'm satisfied that the recommendation 00:52:04.008 --> 00:52:05.021 is wrong. 00:52:05.021 --> 00:52:08.007 Secondary benefit to the public will come as a result 00:52:08.007 --> 00:52:10.020 of opposing this recommendation through the removal 00:52:10.020 --> 00:52:13.008 of agricultural traffic on surrounding roads. 00:52:13.008 --> 00:52:15.017 Additionally, I have concerns that the government 00:52:15.017 --> 00:52:17.021 response over the last few years contributed 00:52:17.021 --> 00:52:21.000 to the closing of Blazing Saddles. 00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:23.008 If this bridge is constructed, it paves the way 00:52:23.008 --> 00:52:26.012 to a similar business coming back. 00:52:26.012 --> 00:52:29.002 I would have liked to have seen a more community-focused 00:52:29.002 --> 00:52:33.003 plan for this proposed development in the first place. 00:52:33.003 --> 00:52:36.007 Including the community on any journey that changes the way 00:52:36.007 --> 00:52:41.023 public land is used is essential for a positive result for all involved. 00:52:41.023 --> 00:52:44.012 Another consideration is the vegetation surrounding 00:52:44.012 --> 00:52:46.000 the area in question. 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:48.014 Should a bushfire ever pass through the region, 00:52:48.014 --> 00:52:52.008 having an additional creek crossing could very well be essential in the future. 00:52:52.008 --> 00:52:56.003 I understand the rationale given by those who are supporting 00:52:56.003 --> 00:52:58.014 the recommendation, but I will not be supporting it. 00:53:00.016 --> 00:53:02.003 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 00:53:02.003 --> 00:53:04.016 CR SCHONFELDER: Mayor, I just have one more question. 00:53:04.016 --> 00:53:06.019 It's been mentioned about a business closing 00:53:06.019 --> 00:53:09.004 and we understand that Blazing Saddles has closed, 00:53:09.004 --> 00:53:12.012 but the Woods have another business, they breed 00:53:12.012 --> 00:53:15.018 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Do you have a question, Councillor Schonfelder? 00:53:15.018 --> 00:53:19.005 CR ADRIAN SCHONFELDER: Can I confirm that they actually do have a business? 00:53:19.005 --> 00:53:22.005 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Yes, we heard that when Caroline spoke to us, 00:53:22.005 --> 00:53:23.018 she has a 00:53:23.018 --> 00:53:25.005 - yes, that is the case. 00:53:25.005 --> 00:53:28.008 Councillor Bodsworth, do you wish to make any closing statements? 00:53:28.008 --> 00:53:31.012 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: Oh, look, I thank everyone for their input on this 00:53:31.012 --> 00:53:34.010 because everybody has provided a really thoughtful response 00:53:34.010 --> 00:53:37.003 to this recommendation and I think we've had a good debate. 00:53:37.003 --> 00:53:40.008 One thing that I'd like to add is that the Painkalac Creek has recently 00:53:40.008 --> 00:53:44.018 been listed as a salt-wedge estuary and a new environmental protection 00:53:44.018 --> 00:53:49.013 and biodiversity conservation threatened community listing, 00:53:49.013 --> 00:53:52.001 so in fairly recent times there's been an extra 00:53:52.001 --> 00:53:56.005 - I guess it's bumped up the conservation priority 00:53:56.005 --> 00:54:00.011 of the Painkalac Creek estuary. 00:54:00.011 --> 00:54:08.014 And as Councillor Stapleton said, additional to what I said initially, 00:54:08.014 --> 00:54:13.018 I think granting a licence would somewhat contradict our Council planned vision 00:54:13.018 --> 00:54:18.022 and a number of the strategies, as Councillor Stapleton outlined. 00:54:18.022 --> 00:54:23.008 But in closing, I'd like to pay tribute to the applicant's contributions 00:54:23.008 --> 00:54:27.020 to the local community and the good times enjoyed by patrons 00:54:27.020 --> 00:54:30.022 of their form of business over many years. 00:54:30.022 --> 00:54:33.019 I'd like to pay tribute to the other landholders in the valley 00:54:33.019 --> 00:54:38.008 who contribute to its conservation, particularly those involved 00:54:38.008 --> 00:54:42.015 in the inspiring rewilding the valley initiative, which is a work in progress. 00:54:42.015 --> 00:54:45.019 I thank the people of Aireys Inlet and district for their engagement 00:54:45.019 --> 00:54:51.015 in civic life and staunch protection of the environment and town character. 00:54:51.015 --> 00:54:53.010 Thank you all. 00:54:53.010 --> 00:54:55.018 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: We now put the motion to a vote. 00:54:55.018 --> 00:54:58.016 All those in favour. 00:54:58.016 --> 00:55:01.015 All those opposed. 00:55:01.015 --> 00:55:03.003 And the motion is carried. 00:55:05.005 --> 00:55:09.011 We now move on to Council Plan Progress Report Mid Year 00:55:09.011 --> 00:55:12.005 - CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Excuse me, Mayor Stapleton [sic], 00:55:12.005 --> 00:55:13.022 I couldn't see how many hands were up. 00:55:13.022 --> 00:55:16.010 Can I just ask what the vote was, please? 00:55:16.010 --> 00:55:18.014 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: 6-3. 00:55:18.014 --> 00:55:21.011 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Thank you. 00:55:21.011 --> 00:55:23.010 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Council Plan Progress 00:55:23.010 --> 00:55:24.022 - Mid Year 2. 00:55:24.022 --> 00:55:29.002 The purpose of this report is to present the updated Council Plan Mid 00:55:29.002 --> 00:55:31.013 Year 2 Progress Report to Council. 00:55:31.013 --> 00:55:33.019 Thank you. 00:55:33.019 --> 00:55:37.015 I note that officers have an updated recommendation that is up on the screen 00:55:37.015 --> 00:55:39.023 to note a couple of changes with the attachment. 00:55:39.023 --> 00:55:41.014 Jake, can we put that up, thanks. 00:55:52.001 --> 00:55:55.016 So for those that can see there, the recommendation is 00:55:55.016 --> 00:55:59.001 "That Council notes the Council Plan Mid Year 2 Progress Report subject 00:55:59.001 --> 00:56:01.021 to the following amendments: Strategy 5 00:56:01.021 --> 00:56:04.024 - Pathway Strategy being amended to in progress 00:56:04.024 --> 00:56:06.016 - it was initially stated as complete 00:56:06.016 --> 00:56:08.003 - "Strategy 5 00:56:08.003 --> 00:56:12.015 - G21 Integrated Transport Strategy amended to in progress; Strategy 15 00:56:12.015 --> 00:56:16.003 - first point under 'What We'll Do' amended from 'Collaborate 00:56:16.003 --> 00:56:19.022 with the Circular Economy team and Environmental Sustainability team to' 00:56:19.022 --> 00:56:23.016 to 'Connect businesses with ethical, social and sustainability initiatives'. 00:56:23.016 --> 00:56:27.015 "Do I have a mover of a motion? 00:56:27.015 --> 00:56:29.020 Councillor Stapleton, is it as per the amended 00:56:29.020 --> 00:56:31.016 - the updated recommendation? 00:56:31.016 --> 00:56:33.003 CR LIBBY STAPLETON: Yes. 00:56:33.003 --> 00:56:34.016 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 00:56:34.016 --> 00:56:36.003 And a seconder? 00:56:36.003 --> 00:56:37.016 Councillor Gazzard. 00:56:37.016 --> 00:56:39.017 Do you wish to speak, Councillor Stapleton? 00:56:39.017 --> 00:56:41.005 CR LIBBY STAPLETON: I do. 00:56:41.005 --> 00:56:43.013 Thank you, Mayor Pattison. 00:56:43.013 --> 00:56:47.014 This is a really terrific report and provides a great summary 00:56:47.014 --> 00:56:53.001 of how Council is tracking halfway through our Council term and there's a lot 00:56:53.001 --> 00:56:55.014 to be proud of in it and I do encourage the community 00:56:55.014 --> 00:56:59.018 to read the report in detail to just see how much is covered. 00:56:59.018 --> 00:57:04.020 But I'd like to just speak to a number of highlights from my perspective. 00:57:04.020 --> 00:57:09.004 Strategy 1, which is working with traditional owners in our community 00:57:09.004 --> 00:57:13.009 to achieve reconciliation, and there's been so much progress 00:57:13.009 --> 00:57:18.018 under this theme from very public actions, like changing the way we acknowledge 00:57:18.018 --> 00:57:22.009 the 26th of January and the recent introduction 00:57:22.009 --> 00:57:27.023 of the Pilk Purriyn event this year to some less public behind-the-scenes 00:57:27.023 --> 00:57:32.008 work that people may not necessarily be aware of, like creating a network 00:57:32.008 --> 00:57:35.020 of councils on both Eastern Maar and Wadawurrung country 00:57:35.020 --> 00:57:39.008 to pursue partnerships in collaboration, which we know is so important 00:57:39.008 --> 00:57:42.023 to achieving this goal. 00:57:42.023 --> 00:57:46.004 Under the theme of healthy connected communities, 00:57:46.004 --> 00:57:49.010 there's obvious things like delivering really important social 00:57:49.010 --> 00:57:54.014 infrastructure and open spaces, and then there's things like strategy 6, 00:57:54.014 --> 00:57:56.004 enabling communities. 00:57:56.004 --> 00:57:59.014 This has been a really strong focus of this Council. 00:57:59.014 --> 00:58:02.007 Since the very early days when we first came together, 00:58:02.007 --> 00:58:05.017 it was something that we highlighted and it's so rewarding 00:58:05.017 --> 00:58:08.024 to see that there's been so much progress in this space. 00:58:08.024 --> 00:58:12.011 A couple of things to highlight are the recently completed 00:58:12.011 --> 00:58:17.022 Bob Pettitt Bike Park project in Jan Juc, which was very much led by the community 00:58:17.022 --> 00:58:20.019 and embraced the whole concept of enabling communities 00:58:20.019 --> 00:58:24.016 and has clearly had really great outcomes, and the other one 00:58:24.016 --> 00:58:30.002 is a streamlined community grants program, which has also had more funding allocated 00:58:30.002 --> 00:58:33.015 to it, and this really does provide the community with an opportunity 00:58:33.015 --> 00:58:37.022 to take the lead on projects and we know there's already been a 00:58:37.022 --> 00:58:42.013 great uptake across the various grants that are available. 00:58:42.013 --> 00:58:48.000 There's so much that could be said under the environmental leadership theme. 00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:50.024 Strategy 7, which is to protect significant habitats 00:58:50.024 --> 00:58:54.014 and landscapes and biodiversity, there's been significant work 00:58:54.014 --> 00:58:58.014 on the Karaaf, deepening our understanding of the issues there, and working closely 00:58:58.014 --> 00:59:02.012 with community and the relevant agencies on a way forward. 00:59:02.012 --> 00:59:07.001 Our submission to Southern Rural Water for the Anglesea River; strategy 8, 00:59:07.001 --> 00:59:10.019 reducing greenhouse gas emissions, Council's reduced corporate emissions 00:59:10.019 --> 00:59:12.017 by 41%. 00:59:12.017 --> 00:59:16.012 We now purchase 100% renewable energy. 00:59:16.012 --> 00:59:18.017 We've adopted a zero emissions target. 00:59:18.017 --> 00:59:21.000 We're now certified as carbon neutral. 00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:24.005 We've installed solar and battery across Council facilities, 00:59:24.005 --> 00:59:28.007 we've installed EV charging stations at Council's office and depots in Torquay 00:59:28.007 --> 00:59:30.023 and Winchelsea and we'll be installing them 00:59:30.023 --> 00:59:34.013 for community use in townships across the shire. 00:59:34.013 --> 00:59:37.002 It's great to see that in the next 18 months there 00:59:37.002 --> 00:59:40.015 will be a focus on removing gas from Council facilities 00:59:40.015 --> 00:59:43.024 and also working more closely with community to support projects that 00:59:43.024 --> 00:59:47.017 will get us closer to net zero emissions. 00:59:47.017 --> 00:59:51.011 Under strategy 10, which is adapting to a change in climate, there's a couple 00:59:51.011 --> 00:59:56.010 of actions proposed for the next 18 months which I think are super important. 00:59:56.010 --> 01:00:00.018 One is reviewing the management of the unsealed road network and shifting 01:00:00.018 --> 01:00:06.002 to a more proactive maintenance program on areas that are seen to be vulnerable 01:00:06.002 --> 01:00:10.000 to storm events, and the second one there is undertaking drainage 01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:14.019 catchment management studies, which we also know are very much needed. 01:00:14.019 --> 01:00:16.013 I've still got a little time. 01:00:16.013 --> 01:00:18.000 Sustainable growth 01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:20.009 - I'd really like to highlight the work undertaken 01:00:20.009 --> 01:00:24.018 under strategy 12 to improve access to affordable accommodation. 01:00:24.018 --> 01:00:28.005 With very limited resources, Council has achieved so much in the 01:00:28.005 --> 01:00:30.005 past 18 months in this space. 01:00:30.005 --> 01:00:33.014 We have an EOI process under way for the provision of social 01:00:33.014 --> 01:00:37.001 and affordable housing at Fraser Drive in Aireys Inlet. 01:00:37.001 --> 01:00:41.019 Council secured a $200,000 grant to undertake a major integrated planning 01:00:41.019 --> 01:00:43.020 project for the McMillan Street precinct 01:00:43.020 --> 01:00:45.019 in Anglesea. 01:00:45.019 --> 01:00:47.012 That's progressing well. 01:00:47.012 --> 01:00:50.014 We're working on a tiny house trial to get under way this year, 01:00:50.014 --> 01:00:55.012 and I'm really excited by the potential for tiny houses in appropriate places 01:00:55.012 --> 01:00:58.014 and I really look forward to hearing more from officers as they work 01:00:58.014 --> 01:01:02.013 through the necessary framework and parameters for this trial. 01:01:02.013 --> 01:01:05.002 Finally, I'd like to highlight the work completed 01:01:05.002 --> 01:01:07.007 under our arts and creativity theme. 01:01:07.007 --> 01:01:12.011 We have a new Develop Arts Grant of $15,000 which has been so successful 01:01:12.011 --> 01:01:15.001 and we know that's in really high demand. 01:01:15.001 --> 01:01:18.008 The Anglesea art space continues to support local artists, with 01:01:18.008 --> 01:01:22.003 more than 300 artists last year benefiting from exhibitions 01:01:22.003 --> 01:01:25.003 and professional development, and officers are close 01:01:25.003 --> 01:01:31.014 to completing the 2023 to 2031 Creative Places Strategy, 01:01:31.014 --> 01:01:35.023 which we should see mid-year and will provide a suite of actions 01:01:35.023 --> 01:01:38.005 for Council to deliver under that theme. 01:01:38.005 --> 01:01:39.018 Thank you. 01:01:39.018 --> 01:01:42.007 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you, Councillor Stapleton. 01:01:42.007 --> 01:01:44.006 Councillor Gazzard, did you wish to speak. 01:01:44.006 --> 01:01:45.019 CR KATE GAZZARD: Yes, thank you. 01:01:45.019 --> 01:01:48.006 Councillor Stapleton has stolen all the highlights. 01:01:48.006 --> 01:01:49.021 CR LIBBY STAPLETON: Oh, I'm sorry. 01:01:49.021 --> 01:01:52.002 CR KATE GAZZARD: So I won't repeat what she said. 01:01:52.002 --> 01:01:54.000 CR LIBBY STAPLETON: I'm just saving time. 01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:55.012 CR KATE GAZZARD: Yes. 01:01:55.012 --> 01:01:58.022 I'd just like to say all of the strategies and principles are so important 01:01:58.022 --> 01:02:00.009 and it's really 01:02:00.009 --> 01:02:02.010 - so much work was put into the Council plan, 01:02:02.010 --> 01:02:05.000 it's really gratifying to see it come to fruition 01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:09.000 and that we're actually having an impact. 01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:14.009 I think, from a personal point of view, I have been on the receiving end 01:02:14.009 --> 01:02:19.001 of the maternal child health nurse services having had a baby last year 01:02:19.001 --> 01:02:22.007 and I was so impressed. 01:02:22.007 --> 01:02:27.014 Like we know what goes on, but the support that they gave me 01:02:27.014 --> 01:02:31.021 through some difficult times and the resources provided 01:02:31.021 --> 01:02:35.003 and just the care was outstanding. 01:02:35.003 --> 01:02:41.020 So I feel really proud that Council are providing these services to our community 01:02:41.020 --> 01:02:45.006 and particularly mothers and babies, who often you're 01:02:45.006 --> 01:02:48.005 in quite a vulnerable phase of life. 01:02:48.005 --> 01:02:51.002 So yes, I just wanted to add in that bit. 01:02:51.002 --> 01:02:52.015 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:02:52.015 --> 01:02:54.002 Do any other Councillors 01:02:54.002 --> 01:02:55.015 - Councillor Allen? 01:02:55.015 --> 01:02:57.003 CR GARY ALLEN: Oh, thanks, Mayor. 01:02:57.003 --> 01:02:59.013 Look, I'd just like to highlight the changed format 01:02:59.013 --> 01:03:02.006 of the presentation of the report detailing key progress, 01:03:02.006 --> 01:03:04.011 what is planned to be done in the next 18 months, 01:03:04.011 --> 01:03:08.018 and the reasons why some elements will slow down or in fact cease 01:03:08.018 --> 01:03:13.022 and I think that it is a clear and realistic assessment of our progress. 01:03:13.022 --> 01:03:17.011 It's more transparent and I really congratulate the officers 01:03:17.011 --> 01:03:20.004 for implementing this change. 01:03:20.004 --> 01:03:21.016 Thank you. 01:03:21.016 --> 01:03:23.004 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:03:23.004 --> 01:03:25.008 Councillor Wellington, did you wish to speak? 01:03:29.019 --> 01:03:32.013 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: I've just got a couple of questions. 01:03:32.013 --> 01:03:34.006 I've got three questions, actually. 01:03:34.006 --> 01:03:37.011 One is one of the commitments going forward is 01:03:37.011 --> 01:03:41.009 to continue to explore best ways to engage with Traditional Owners 01:03:41.009 --> 01:03:45.007 and First Nation community members and I just wondered how many there are 01:03:45.007 --> 01:03:50.018 and how many we have contact with and have got engagement with. 01:03:50.018 --> 01:03:52.011 So do we have any 01:03:52.011 --> 01:03:56.017 - first of all, how many First Nations people do we have 01:03:56.017 --> 01:04:02.015 in our shire and, secondly, have we managed to make contact with most 01:04:02.015 --> 01:04:04.002 of them or do we 01:04:04.002 --> 01:04:05.020 - you know, how do we 01:04:05.020 --> 01:04:08.013 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: I'll pass that question on to our CEO. 01:04:08.013 --> 01:04:10.023 ROBYN SEYMOUR: Thank you, Councillor Wellington. 01:04:10.023 --> 01:04:13.009 I'll start with the second question first. 01:04:13.009 --> 01:04:16.023 Our primary way that we work with our First Nations people is 01:04:16.023 --> 01:04:26.002 through the registered groups and so we predominantly work with the Wadawurrung 01:04:26.002 --> 01:04:31.013 and also Eastern Maar, which isn't to say that we don't then work with some 01:04:31.013 --> 01:04:41.017 of our local First Nations people particularly in Lorne and other areas, 01:04:41.017 --> 01:04:46.007 but our first point of call and our primary mechanism for working 01:04:46.007 --> 01:04:48.013 with our First Nations people is absolutely 01:04:48.013 --> 01:04:53.000 through those registered groups, the RAPs, and that 01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:58.023 is how we ensure that we are responding to the needs 01:04:58.023 --> 01:05:02.013 of the broader First Nations communities. 01:05:02.013 --> 01:05:08.020 We do work with and have through a range of our events that we've run 01:05:08.020 --> 01:05:13.012 and grant programs that we've supported, whether it's our artists or some 01:05:13.012 --> 01:05:20.007 of our other NAIDOC and other events, worked more specifically with individuals 01:05:20.007 --> 01:05:23.000 within our First Nations community. 01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:27.022 In terms of the number of First Nations people in the broader 01:05:27.022 --> 01:05:32.021 shire, without going to kind of census data or other things, 01:05:32.021 --> 01:05:39.024 it's difficult for me to actually speak to the total number 01:05:39.024 --> 01:05:45.022 of First Nations people in our shire and even the data that 01:05:45.022 --> 01:05:49.002 is publicly available isn't necessarily very accurate. 01:05:49.002 --> 01:05:55.000 So it's hard to assess the total number, Councillor Wellington. 01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:57.010 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Did you have another question, 01:05:57.010 --> 01:05:58.022 Councillor Wellington? 01:05:58.022 --> 01:06:02.016 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: There's another comment in the report that we'll provide 01:06:02.016 --> 01:06:06.001 support to the Barwon Water-led Thomson Valley recycled water business 01:06:06.001 --> 01:06:07.013 case and I just wondered 01:06:07.013 --> 01:06:10.003 - I don't recall a Council decision about that 01:06:10.003 --> 01:06:12.000 and I presume it means financial support. 01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:14.017 I just wondered if someone could tell us what that means. 01:06:16.018 --> 01:06:18.014 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Sorry, through you. 01:06:18.014 --> 01:06:21.010 ROBYN SEYMOUR: Councillor Wellington, that really relates 01:06:21.010 --> 01:06:24.002 to the work that we're doing as part of the collective work 01:06:24.002 --> 01:06:27.022 on our stormwater management and the Karaaf and so 01:06:27.022 --> 01:06:33.023 the State Government committed $230,000, or something of that magnitude, 01:06:33.023 --> 01:06:38.000 to really do the next phase in the feasibility towards developing 01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:45.005 a business case for the pipeline, for the recycled water, and one 01:06:45.005 --> 01:06:51.019 of the things that we've been working on and Council have been provided updates on 01:06:51.019 --> 01:06:56.011 is the fact that that pipeline potentially provides an opportunity 01:06:56.011 --> 01:07:03.020 to remove water going into the Karaaf and allow our stormwater to be mixed 01:07:03.020 --> 01:07:11.005 - shandied with the recycled water to become productive water for high-value 01:07:11.005 --> 01:07:12.021 agriculture in the Thomson Valley. 01:07:12.021 --> 01:07:17.010 That's really what that particular item relates to. 01:07:17.010 --> 01:07:20.003 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Thanks, yes, and I am aware of that. 01:07:20.003 --> 01:07:23.024 It just sounded as though the project may be contributing 01:07:23.024 --> 01:07:27.008 financial resources to do a business case, but I think what you're saying 01:07:27.008 --> 01:07:30.024 is we're working on an interagency level. 01:07:30.024 --> 01:07:33.017 And the third one is that I saw that we're planning 01:07:33.017 --> 01:07:37.012 to confirm Council's approach to the Voice to Parliament referendum 01:07:37.012 --> 01:07:39.015 and I just wondered whether Council 01:07:39.015 --> 01:07:42.019 - I wouldn't have thought Council even has a vote in that referendum. 01:07:42.019 --> 01:07:45.014 Is that correct, or do we get a vote as 01:07:45.014 --> 01:07:48.003 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: On that one, I can answer that one. 01:07:48.003 --> 01:07:54.019 We had a briefing on that and it's around Council's position in the sense 01:07:54.019 --> 01:07:56.022 of our civic leadership role. 01:07:56.022 --> 01:07:59.024 It's not about having a vote in the referendum. 01:07:59.024 --> 01:08:02.007 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: We don't have a vote on it? 01:08:02.007 --> 01:08:04.000 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: No, that's right. 01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:05.020 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Thanks, right. 01:08:05.020 --> 01:08:07.008 I'll talk, if that's okay. 01:08:07.008 --> 01:08:09.009 Look, I think it's good to read the report. 01:08:09.009 --> 01:08:11.001 It's nicely presented. 01:08:11.001 --> 01:08:14.015 I do think we need to move to a situation where we're measuring 01:08:14.015 --> 01:08:16.014 outcomes, not just things that we're doing 01:08:16.014 --> 01:08:19.019 - not just reporting things that we're doing, reporting activities. 01:08:19.019 --> 01:08:23.008 So there's a lot of activities that we're doing 01:08:23.008 --> 01:08:26.001 and I'm sure they're interesting, but they don't actually 01:08:26.001 --> 01:08:29.003 - there's very few areas in the progress report that actually talk 01:08:29.003 --> 01:08:33.014 about what we've achieved and my key issues around that relate 01:08:33.014 --> 01:08:38.012 to things like the Karaaf, where we've done processes doing 01:08:38.012 --> 01:08:45.020 reports and investigations, but I remain really concerned that 01:08:45.020 --> 01:08:49.003 we're not actually addressing the key issues of the Karaaf, which 01:08:49.003 --> 01:08:54.012 is really contaminated and damaging water flow into the Karaaf, 01:08:54.012 --> 01:08:59.003 which we are continuing to develop really as we develop more housing in Torquay. 01:08:59.003 --> 01:09:01.022 So I'm concerned about the lack of outcome focus, 01:09:01.022 --> 01:09:05.008 that we're talking about processes, we're doing lots of things and many 01:09:05.008 --> 01:09:08.000 of them are good, I know that many of them lead to outcomes, 01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:11.015 but we don't actually say what they are and we don't have a way of measuring them 01:09:11.015 --> 01:09:15.003 and I would hope that we would give a framework for measurement and reporting 01:09:15.003 --> 01:09:18.008 to the community that's not just about how many things have we done or 01:09:18.008 --> 01:09:20.022 what have they been, but what have we actually achieved 01:09:20.022 --> 01:09:22.009 as a result of that. 01:09:22.009 --> 01:09:26.006 I'm still confused, and not in any particular order 01:09:26.006 --> 01:09:29.007 - generally I support the themes in the plan, 01:09:29.007 --> 01:09:34.023 but I've always thought there's a big theme missing, which is accessible, 01:09:34.023 --> 01:09:37.007 appropriate and effective services or something 01:09:37.007 --> 01:09:38.019 around service quality. 01:09:38.019 --> 01:09:42.001 We just don't address it in the plan and therefore we don't report on it. 01:09:42.001 --> 01:09:43.015 And I think we've got big gaps. 01:09:43.015 --> 01:09:48.018 We know we've got big gaps in access to services, in the quality of services 01:09:48.018 --> 01:09:50.005 in some areas. 01:09:50.005 --> 01:09:54.001 This is the only plan I've ever been involved in with a service-based 01:09:54.001 --> 01:09:57.003 organisation where the quality of services doesn't rate a mention 01:09:57.003 --> 01:09:58.016 in the strategy. 01:09:58.016 --> 01:10:02.006 So I think there's an issue with the strategy, with the plan then 01:10:02.006 --> 01:10:05.009 and the strategy. 01:10:05.009 --> 01:10:09.000 Social and affordable housing, I'm confused about the target market, 01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:12.017 whether we're talking about housing for workers or housing for people 01:10:12.017 --> 01:10:15.018 on low incomes or housing for elderly people who need to retire. 01:10:15.018 --> 01:10:19.020 It seems to me an extremely vague issue and we're giving away large 01:10:19.020 --> 01:10:23.007 - or we're proposing to potentially give away large really 01:10:23.007 --> 01:10:26.009 valuable parcels of land without being clear 01:10:26.009 --> 01:10:29.021 about what the public benefit will be and what the target market is, 01:10:29.021 --> 01:10:31.009 so I'm concerned about that. 01:10:31.009 --> 01:10:34.019 I think that it did strike me 01:10:34.019 --> 01:10:38.005 - I was driving past Deakin University the other day and we've got signs 01:10:38.005 --> 01:10:43.007 up saying student accommodation, encouraging people to apply, 01:10:43.007 --> 01:10:45.010 and it occurred to me that we may well have a lot 01:10:45.010 --> 01:10:48.003 of accommodation on our doorstep that's not really used 01:10:48.003 --> 01:10:50.003 much over the summer period and I don't know 01:10:50.003 --> 01:10:53.018 whether that has been explored, but if not, I would really encourage it 01:10:53.018 --> 01:10:55.010 to be explored. 01:10:55.010 --> 01:10:57.006 I'm concerned about the Karaaf. 01:10:57.006 --> 01:11:03.000 I'm concerned about if we're developing a voice because we think we're community 01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:06.004 leaders, if we're developing a position on the Voice to Parliament, 01:11:06.004 --> 01:11:09.014 I don't think that's our leadership role at all and I will object 01:11:09.014 --> 01:11:11.006 to that when we do it, obviously. 01:11:11.006 --> 01:11:13.009 I'm very concerned about the heritage status 01:11:13.009 --> 01:11:16.009 of Deans Marsh hall in strategy 11. 01:11:16.009 --> 01:11:17.022 We're committing to a strategy 01:11:17.022 --> 01:11:21.007 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Councillor Wellington , you're now 10 seconds over. 01:11:21.007 --> 01:11:23.024 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: And I've got a couple of questions 01:11:23.024 --> 01:11:26.007 about grammar in the report that don't make sense 01:11:26.007 --> 01:11:28.019 and I don't understand it, but I'll leave it with that. 01:11:28.019 --> 01:11:31.000 So I think there's some good stuff in this report 01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:34.002 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: I'll get you to just finish up now, thank you, 01:11:34.002 --> 01:11:35.018 Councillor Wellington, thank you. 01:11:35.018 --> 01:11:38.011 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: I've got some concerns, thank you. 01:11:38.011 --> 01:11:39.023 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Any other 01:11:39.023 --> 01:11:41.011 - Councillor Barker? 01:11:41.011 --> 01:11:42.023 CR PAUL BARKER: Thanks, Mayor. 01:11:42.023 --> 01:11:45.000 I still have an issue with community vision. 01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:48.001 That states "We will leave the Surf Coast better than we found it". 01:11:48.001 --> 01:11:49.014 It's a subjective statement. 01:11:49.014 --> 01:11:51.017 To me, better involves being fiscally sound, 01:11:51.017 --> 01:11:55.014 reducing debt, reducing rates, getting out of programs that duplicate state 01:11:55.014 --> 01:11:58.016 or federal programs, such as Indigenous reconciliation 01:11:58.016 --> 01:12:02.015 and climate alarmism programs, and stop giving out financial grants left, 01:12:02.015 --> 01:12:06.004 right and centre that come from ratepayers that include hundreds 01:12:06.004 --> 01:12:10.006 of families struggling so much that they are needing food aid 01:12:10.006 --> 01:12:12.020 from Feed Me Surf Coast. 01:12:12.020 --> 01:12:17.012 In strategy 1 it outlines a future focus to confirm Council's approach to the Voice 01:12:17.012 --> 01:12:19.014 to Parliament Referendum. 01:12:19.014 --> 01:12:21.003 Now, there's two issues with this. 01:12:21.003 --> 01:12:23.005 1, it's a federal matter. 01:12:23.005 --> 01:12:27.014 Why on earth should ratepayers be funding anything that's a federal matter? 01:12:27.014 --> 01:12:31.021 2, I thought there weren't any racists among us. 01:12:31.021 --> 01:12:36.013 To even consider that one might support such a referendum that divides people 01:12:36.013 --> 01:12:41.017 on race is in its very nature racist. 01:12:41.017 --> 01:12:45.010 To quote, it is "wrong and unfair", 01:12:45.010 --> 01:12:47.014 dangerous and divisive", 01:12:47.014 --> 01:12:50.022 useless and costly", words from Indigenous Australian 01:12:50.022 --> 01:12:52.010 Jacinta Nampijinpa Price. 01:12:54.014 --> 01:12:59.012 A key progress item in strategy 4 describes informing advocacy 01:12:59.012 --> 01:13:01.021 Now, what does that really mean? 01:13:01.021 --> 01:13:04.003 It means we're involved in delivering services 01:13:04.003 --> 01:13:08.007 to the community that we can't afford and need to ask for taxpayer-funded 01:13:08.007 --> 01:13:11.012 handouts from State and Federal Governments. 01:13:11.012 --> 01:13:14.024 Now, I don't know about you, but I don't want taxpayers 01:13:14.024 --> 01:13:19.019 from Bairnsdale or Sydney paying for services in the Surf Coast. 01:13:19.019 --> 01:13:21.016 If we can afford it, we should run it. 01:13:21.016 --> 01:13:24.008 If we can't, we should get out of it. 01:13:24.008 --> 01:13:30.000 I don't think it's particularly fair to throw out our costs on to others that 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:33.020 will likely never see the benefit. 01:13:33.020 --> 01:13:37.024 An element that is okay to see is the review of volunteering programs 01:13:37.024 --> 01:13:41.005 as part of this, but should Council really be getting 01:13:41.005 --> 01:13:44.009 involved in volunteering programs? 01:13:44.009 --> 01:13:47.006 Personally, I think governments of any level should just get 01:13:47.006 --> 01:13:50.009 out of the way of community interacting cooperatively 01:13:50.009 --> 01:13:52.003 with each other. 01:13:52.003 --> 01:13:55.023 And in regards to housing, it seems to me to be quite simple. 01:13:55.023 --> 01:13:59.011 Reduce the barriers to a wider range of housing options being built, 01:13:59.011 --> 01:14:03.021 or accept that housing affordability is going to be a continual problem 01:14:03.021 --> 01:14:08.012 and continue to get worse and unless you remove the barriers, 01:14:08.012 --> 01:14:13.006 do not expect any sort of relief in housing affordability in the Surf Coast 01:14:16.018 --> 01:14:18.005 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:14:18.005 --> 01:14:20.000 Do any other Councillors wish to speak? 01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:22.005 Councillor Bodsworth? 01:14:22.005 --> 01:14:25.020 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: It's mostly been said already, so I'm just going to sort 01:14:25.020 --> 01:14:30.019 of echo my satisfaction at the things that have been done so well. 01:14:30.019 --> 01:14:34.011 It's such a massive program and on the whole, I think we're doing great. 01:14:34.011 --> 01:14:36.020 I do agree with Councillor Wellington's comments 01:14:36.020 --> 01:14:41.020 about outcomes reporting and I know we have lots of data sets 01:14:41.020 --> 01:14:46.018 around outcomes in sort of layers beneath what we've been shown 01:14:46.018 --> 01:14:48.005 in this report 01:14:48.005 --> 01:14:50.008 - for example, on the Karaaf water monitoring 01:14:50.008 --> 01:14:57.011 - so I'm sure there's a way for us to provide opportunities for community 01:14:57.011 --> 01:15:00.008 to delve deeper and get into those data sets 01:15:00.008 --> 01:15:05.007 and see what they're saying about issues of particular importance to them. 01:15:05.007 --> 01:15:11.006 The only one I'd like to highlight is where we initially 01:15:11.006 --> 01:15:13.023 in error said that the pathway strategy was complete 01:15:13.023 --> 01:15:18.002 and we've said now, we've clarified that it's not and 01:15:18.002 --> 01:15:22.014 for me that's a huge piece of work that I think we've made some good 01:15:22.014 --> 01:15:26.016 progress on pathways, but we're nowhere near where we'd like to be. 01:15:26.016 --> 01:15:30.003 And we've seen through the youth census last year 01:15:30.003 --> 01:15:35.014 through the Moriac Structure Plan how important pathways are in those contexts. 01:15:35.014 --> 01:15:40.005 We've seen how important pathways are to the Winchelsea community. 01:15:40.005 --> 01:15:42.011 They're an essential part of Torquay's future, 01:15:42.011 --> 01:15:46.020 particularly the arterial-sized pathways that Torquay needs 01:15:46.020 --> 01:15:50.015 to link town centres and residential neighbourhoods 01:15:50.015 --> 01:15:54.011 and major community facilities like schools. 01:15:54.011 --> 01:15:58.003 Business Anglesea has presented a fantastic vision for pathways, 01:15:58.003 --> 01:16:02.011 pedestrian bicycle connections in Anglesea, which serve locals 01:16:02.011 --> 01:16:03.024 as well as visitors. 01:16:03.024 --> 01:16:07.008 So everywhere you look and you could probably look 01:16:07.008 --> 01:16:09.023 at almost every strategy in our Council plan 01:16:09.023 --> 01:16:12.004 and pathways are relevant to that. 01:16:12.004 --> 01:16:15.011 So I'm not confident that rolling the pathway strategy in 01:16:15.011 --> 01:16:20.018 with the social infrastructure plan, which is a huge piece of work, 01:16:20.018 --> 01:16:25.013 a very ambitious and difficult piece of work to deliver, is the right way 01:16:25.013 --> 01:16:27.001 to go. 01:16:27.001 --> 01:16:30.019 I don't think we've discussed that enough and I do think we need 01:16:30.019 --> 01:16:36.015 to really put together a strategy to deliver to get into our strategy, 01:16:36.015 --> 01:16:40.005 which sounds horribly bureaucratic, but I just think we've got to get to grips 01:16:40.005 --> 01:16:44.003 with how we move forward on pathways. 01:16:44.003 --> 01:16:46.014 But all in all, thanks for your comments, everyone. 01:16:48.015 --> 01:16:50.002 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:16:50.002 --> 01:16:51.017 Did you have any summing comments? 01:16:51.017 --> 01:16:54.004 CR LIBBY STAPLETON: Oh, look, just very quickly, just 01:16:54.004 --> 01:16:59.023 to acknowledge that the Council plan encompasses a huge suite 01:16:59.023 --> 01:17:05.016 of work strategies, goals and actions and I think at this point 01:17:05.016 --> 01:17:10.010 in time it's reasonable to say that not all of it will be achievable 01:17:10.010 --> 01:17:14.005 in this Council term and I understand that officers are doing 01:17:14.005 --> 01:17:19.017 a lot of work at the moment and previously to really look 01:17:19.017 --> 01:17:25.018 at what the key priorities are and to ensure that teams are focusing 01:17:25.018 --> 01:17:27.024 on the right things over the next 18 months 01:17:27.024 --> 01:17:31.019 to achieve those things in the Council plan that are most important. 01:17:31.019 --> 01:17:35.022 So at this point the recommendation is just to note the report 01:17:35.022 --> 01:17:38.009 and I'm sure that we're all able to do that. 01:17:38.009 --> 01:17:40.002 So thank you. 01:17:40.002 --> 01:17:43.022 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: All those in favour. 01:17:43.022 --> 01:17:45.009 And the motion is carried. 01:17:49.008 --> 01:17:52.002 We now move on to the Surf Coast Shire cat curfew. 01:17:54.010 --> 01:17:57.004 The purpose of this report is to seek Council's endorsement 01:17:57.004 --> 01:18:00.005 of an updated cat confinement order which would require all cats 01:18:00.005 --> 01:18:05.000 within the municipality to be confined at all times to the owner's property unless 01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:06.022 the cat is appropriately restrained. 01:18:06.022 --> 01:18:10.014 I note that officers have an updated recommendation that is going to be put 01:18:10.014 --> 01:18:17.018 onto the screen as there is a minor change to that proposed order. 01:18:17.018 --> 01:18:20.012 Thank you, Jake. 01:18:20.012 --> 01:18:25.011 So we can see there that the recommendation is 01:18:25.011 --> 01:18:29.008 "That Council adopts the revised cat confinement order, subject 01:18:29.008 --> 01:18:34.001 to that part 2.1 of the Order at attachment 1 be amended so that 01:18:34.001 --> 01:18:40.003 the word 'property' be replaced with the word 'premises'", 01:18:40.003 --> 01:18:43.022 and then the rest of the recommendation is the same. 01:18:43.022 --> 01:18:45.014 Do I have a mover of the motion? 01:18:45.014 --> 01:18:47.002 CR ROSE HODGE: I'm happy to move. 01:18:47.002 --> 01:18:48.022 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Councillor Hodge. 01:18:48.022 --> 01:18:50.009 Is that as per the 01:18:50.009 --> 01:18:51.022 - CR ROSE HODGE: Yes. 01:18:51.022 --> 01:18:53.013 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: And a seconder? 01:18:53.013 --> 01:18:55.000 Councillor Bodsworth. 01:18:55.000 --> 01:18:56.013 Do you wish to speak? 01:18:56.013 --> 01:18:58.000 CR ROSE HODGE: As a cat owner 01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:00.003 - I don't know if there's many other cat owners 01:19:00.003 --> 01:19:03.010 on the Council, but I've had Roy for 18 years and he's slowing down a bit, 01:19:03.010 --> 01:19:06.006 but all about cat curfews is about responsible pet ownership 01:19:06.006 --> 01:19:10.003 and that includes that your cats are safe and not roaming from their home. 01:19:10.003 --> 01:19:15.004 And owners should be very conscious of the way cats behave and of course 01:19:15.004 --> 01:19:17.002 of their neighbours' amenity as well. 01:19:17.002 --> 01:19:21.017 Surf Coast Shire has had a night curfew for quite a while and now, 01:19:21.017 --> 01:19:26.009 if this recommendation is passed, it will be including daytime. 01:19:26.009 --> 01:19:30.011 Cats should be on their own property as well as dogs are requested to do so 01:19:30.011 --> 01:19:31.023 as well. 01:19:31.023 --> 01:19:35.013 This recommendation does not force cats into enclosures, but the onus is 01:19:35.013 --> 01:19:39.000 on the owner to try and ensure that their felines are 01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:40.012 on their property. 01:19:40.012 --> 01:19:43.024 If not, penalties could occur, just as dogs are too. 01:19:43.024 --> 01:19:50.009 Out of our survey, 76% of cat owners in our survey kept their cats already 24 01:19:50.009 --> 01:19:57.007 hours on their property and the other over 130 cat owners said it would take 01:19:57.007 --> 01:20:00.004 them nearly two years to try to achieve what 01:20:00.004 --> 01:20:02.007 they think enclosure would mean. 01:20:02.007 --> 01:20:05.018 What we will be doing, there will be a six-month transition period 01:20:05.018 --> 01:20:11.005 and the 924 registered cat owners, we'll be sending communication 01:20:11.005 --> 01:20:16.005 to them detailing changes and the best ways any modifications 01:20:16.005 --> 01:20:18.006 could be completed. 01:20:18.006 --> 01:20:22.007 These recommendations by some cat owners go too far 01:20:22.007 --> 01:20:25.012 and we've heard from environmentalists that these recommendations 01:20:25.012 --> 01:20:28.001 to protect wildlife don't go far enough. 01:20:28.001 --> 01:20:30.005 So I think we're in the balance. 01:20:30.005 --> 01:20:34.019 So the data that we look at in the future could, 01:20:34.019 --> 01:20:39.013 when we do our domestic animal management plan again, review this. 01:20:39.013 --> 01:20:43.015 But I call on cat owners to try to keep their cats in. 01:20:43.015 --> 01:20:50.008 We know there's a large kill on bird life and wildlife and I think those 924 owners 01:20:50.008 --> 01:20:54.008 will read the recommendations, look at how they can improve the situations 01:20:54.008 --> 01:20:58.018 at their homes and keep their cats safe and the environment safe as well. 01:20:58.018 --> 01:21:00.005 Thank you. 01:21:00.005 --> 01:21:01.018 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:21:01.018 --> 01:21:03.021 Councillor Bodsworth, did you wish to speak? 01:21:03.021 --> 01:21:05.016 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: Yes, please, Mayor. 01:21:05.016 --> 01:21:09.005 I just want to talk about the why of this proposal briefly, 01:21:09.005 --> 01:21:12.020 given Councillor Hodge has covered things well. 01:21:12.020 --> 01:21:18.012 In preparing for our decision making on this tonight, in addition to referring 01:21:18.012 --> 01:21:25.022 to our own report, I've referred to the 2021 federal parliamentary inquiry 01:21:25.022 --> 01:21:31.001 into this issue and I'm just going to pass on a few interesting findings 01:21:31.001 --> 01:21:33.011 from that that I think are relevant to our decision. 01:21:33.011 --> 01:21:37.017 It found that cats kill almost 2 billion native animals per year. 01:21:37.017 --> 01:21:43.006 Roaming pet cats are estimated to kill 390 million native animals per 01:21:43.006 --> 01:21:44.018 year. 01:21:44.018 --> 01:21:49.016 An individual roaming pet cat kills 186 animals per year on average, 01:21:49.016 --> 01:21:52.015 60% of which are native. 01:21:52.015 --> 01:21:59.003 39% of cats brought in at night sneak out to roam and hunt during the night. 01:21:59.003 --> 01:22:03.022 Pet cats bring home only 15% of what they hunt. 01:22:03.022 --> 01:22:09.013 Pet cats' average lifespan is three to four times longer when they're confined 01:22:09.013 --> 01:22:15.019 They also suffer a lot less injuries through fights with other animals 01:22:15.019 --> 01:22:17.023 and being hit by cars, and things like that. 01:22:20.002 --> 01:22:24.009 So the federal inquiry recommended cat registration, 01:22:24.009 --> 01:22:28.019 sterilisation incentives, education campaigns and full-time 01:22:28.019 --> 01:22:30.007 confinement. 01:22:30.007 --> 01:22:34.003 So out of those things, we have compulsory cat registration, 01:22:34.003 --> 01:22:38.017 we have sterilisation incentives, we have an education campaign which 01:22:38.017 --> 01:22:44.024 is outlined in this report, and hopefully, if we all vote the way I'm intending 01:22:44.024 --> 01:22:48.024 to vote on this, we'll bring in full-time confinement. 01:22:48.024 --> 01:22:52.018 There is a question about whether that goes far enough in my mind, 01:22:52.018 --> 01:22:55.015 given particularly with rural areas we can be talking 01:22:55.015 --> 01:22:59.003 about quite large properties with really high conservation values 01:22:59.003 --> 01:23:04.003 where cats will be still allowed to roam those properties. 01:23:04.003 --> 01:23:08.004 However, I believe that most owners of those properties won't be inclined 01:23:08.004 --> 01:23:10.019 to leave cats to roam in that way. 01:23:10.019 --> 01:23:13.019 So I'm fairly confident that they would be quite small numbers 01:23:13.019 --> 01:23:16.008 in the scheme of things. 01:23:16.008 --> 01:23:20.016 And it's worth noting in relation to a night-time curfew that keeping cats 01:23:20.016 --> 01:23:26.015 in at night changes the species they kill, not the number of animals, so birds 01:23:26.015 --> 01:23:30.019 and reptiles in the daytime, mammals at night. 01:23:30.019 --> 01:23:33.023 So, yeah, I'm very much in favour of this recommendation. 01:23:33.023 --> 01:23:36.022 I'm a dog lover, but that means I'm a pet lover 01:23:36.022 --> 01:23:42.004 and I understand how attached we all get to our pets and I understand that equally 01:23:42.004 --> 01:23:44.006 with cat owners as with dog owners. 01:23:44.006 --> 01:23:47.018 So thanks to everyone in the community for their great input on this 01:23:47.018 --> 01:23:52.010 and I hope we vote this recommendation in. 01:23:52.010 --> 01:23:53.023 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:23:53.023 --> 01:23:55.015 Any other Councillors wish to speak? 01:23:55.015 --> 01:23:57.002 Councillor Barker? 01:23:57.002 --> 01:24:00.000 CR PAUL BARKER: Do I appreciate what this curfew intends to do? 01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:01.012 Sure. 01:24:01.012 --> 01:24:03.015 But the method is ludicrous. 01:24:03.015 --> 01:24:07.015 Rules are only useful if they are easy to police. 01:24:07.015 --> 01:24:11.008 I see this being largely an impossible rule to enforce. 01:24:11.008 --> 01:24:15.008 Sure there will be some instances where the rules will be able to be used 01:24:15.008 --> 01:24:18.022 and penalties applied to offenders, but I'm concerned that there are 01:24:18.022 --> 01:24:24.000 going to be countless hours of officer time spent policing these rules 01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:27.006 that will result in nothing. 01:24:27.006 --> 01:24:32.002 Now, will that cost us hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of dollars, 01:24:32.002 --> 01:24:33.021 maybe more? 01:24:33.021 --> 01:24:36.013 Only time will tell. 01:24:36.013 --> 01:24:40.023 When I articulate my concern with the direction Council is heading, 01:24:40.023 --> 01:24:45.007 often driven by an agenda straight out of the Labor and Greens' playbook, 01:24:45.007 --> 01:24:50.008 it is the same as the Liberal playbook, authoritarian. 01:24:50.008 --> 01:24:51.021 Now, what is authoritarian? 01:24:54.003 --> 01:25:01.004 That is favouring or enforcing strict obedience to authority at the expense 01:25:01.004 --> 01:25:03.024 of personal freedom. 01:25:03.024 --> 01:25:07.021 Now, in this case it's restricting freedom for cats to roam and, as I mentioned 01:25:07.021 --> 01:25:12.000 before, that's an intent I can appreciate, but the method proposed here will come 01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:14.020 at a cost that I cannot support. 01:25:14.020 --> 01:25:18.000 What I do find some humour in is that cats will be permitted 01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:23.003 to leave their owner's property or premises in a reasonable means 01:25:23.003 --> 01:25:25.004 of restraint. 01:25:25.004 --> 01:25:27.018 I look forward to the burgeoning Surf Coast cat harness 01:25:27.018 --> 01:25:30.014 market growing at a faster rate than our established 01:25:30.014 --> 01:25:33.001 public dog dropping trend. 01:25:33.001 --> 01:25:36.011 Maybe we should ban public dog droppings or put a curfew on them. 01:25:36.011 --> 01:25:37.024 That will clean up our pathways. 01:25:40.020 --> 01:25:42.007 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:25:42.007 --> 01:25:44.002 Do any other Councillors wish to speak? 01:25:44.002 --> 01:25:45.015 Councillor Wellington. 01:25:45.015 --> 01:25:47.014 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Thank you very much 01:25:47.014 --> 01:25:49.001 Yes, I am a cat owner. 01:25:49.001 --> 01:25:51.003 We have two cats and I've had cats all my life. 01:25:51.003 --> 01:25:55.013 I'm also a horse lover and I won't attempt to use the sophisticated word (inaudible) 01:25:55.013 --> 01:25:59.021 but I'm a horse rider and a horse lover, so none of that is really relevant 01:25:59.021 --> 01:26:02.015 to what I think about this proposal. 01:26:06.005 --> 01:26:13.021 I do think that the threat that cats pose to our native wildlife is just enormous. 01:26:13.021 --> 01:26:19.008 I've been a very big proponent of having curfews for cats. 01:26:19.008 --> 01:26:28.015 The times that cats tend to roam and kill is evenings and mornings, so we 01:26:28.015 --> 01:26:31.023 and probably a lot of other farmers, I imagine, definitely lock our cats 01:26:31.023 --> 01:26:35.015 up early in the evening, keep them locked up all night. 01:26:35.015 --> 01:26:40.005 I'm just looking out the window at my 100 acre property and I think 01:26:40.005 --> 01:26:43.013 if my cats are allowed to roam in a 100 acre property at night, 01:26:43.013 --> 01:26:46.014 you know, we've spent years planting very 01:26:46.014 --> 01:26:51.022 significant plantations of native trees and we really value and cherish the birds 01:26:51.022 --> 01:26:55.001 that come to them and our cats are not permitted 01:26:55.001 --> 01:26:58.023 near the plantations at all and certainly not at the time when 01:26:58.023 --> 01:27:02.007 they would be most actively seeking to kill, which is, as I understand it, 01:27:02.007 --> 01:27:03.020 evenings and early mornings. 01:27:03.020 --> 01:27:09.002 So I'm pretty disappointed that this regulation won't stop people like me, 01:27:09.002 --> 01:27:13.005 if we chose to, allowing our cats to roam any time of the day or night 01:27:13.005 --> 01:27:15.000 over properties that might span 01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:19.000 - you know, my property is 100 acres, but others may span thousands of acres, 01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:24.021 and I'm told that property means all of your property that you own and work on, 01:27:24.021 --> 01:27:26.024 not just the sort of title that you live on. 01:27:26.024 --> 01:27:29.003 So a lot of these farming properties are made up 01:27:29.003 --> 01:27:32.022 of multiple titles and the cats will be allowed to roam across all 01:27:32.022 --> 01:27:34.009 of them. 01:27:34.009 --> 01:27:38.004 So I'm disappointed at the scope of this, but I think the intent is there 01:27:38.004 --> 01:27:39.017 and I think it is 01:27:39.017 --> 01:27:43.005 - and most people want to comply with the law, so most people 01:27:43.005 --> 01:27:45.021 will recognise they need to do this and they'll do it. 01:27:45.021 --> 01:27:51.006 I can't see our rangers running around with nets and headlights trying 01:27:51.006 --> 01:27:54.024 to find cats in the middle of the night, but it will allow neighbours who are being 01:27:54.024 --> 01:27:57.005 bothered by cats crossing into their backyards 01:27:57.005 --> 01:28:00.022 and soiling or terrorising their dogs, or whatever they do, 01:28:00.022 --> 01:28:04.002 they can make a complaint and things will be able to be done about that. 01:28:04.002 --> 01:28:05.015 So I think it's part of the way. 01:28:05.015 --> 01:28:07.002 I will support it. 01:28:07.002 --> 01:28:09.000 I'm disappointed in its scope. 01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:12.003 I hope that rural people, and I think rural people generally would 01:28:12.003 --> 01:28:15.017 be really responsible cat owners because the biggest environmental 01:28:15.017 --> 01:28:21.019 - people should understand, I would say the most important 01:28:21.019 --> 01:28:24.001 environmentalists in this shire are the members 01:28:24.001 --> 01:28:25.013 of the farming community. 01:28:25.013 --> 01:28:29.002 They are looking after the land in a way that others just couldn't understand 01:28:29.002 --> 01:28:30.016 and the wildlife. 01:28:30.016 --> 01:28:33.015 So I will support it, but I'm a bit disappointed at it. 01:28:33.015 --> 01:28:35.002 Thank you. 01:28:35.002 --> 01:28:36.015 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:28:36.015 --> 01:28:39.002 Did you have any closing comments, Councillor Hodge? 01:28:39.002 --> 01:28:42.006 CR ROSE HODGE: Oh, just to say I do agree with Councillor Wellington, 01:28:42.006 --> 01:28:45.012 I don't see our rangers going out on cat hunts and wasting time on that. 01:28:45.012 --> 01:28:48.006 It will be more of a reactive one, especially for neighbours 01:28:48.006 --> 01:28:51.007 if they've got a problem cat and our rangers then have the power 01:28:51.007 --> 01:28:54.011 to make their amenity better. 01:28:54.011 --> 01:29:00.022 I accept this report and in several years it gets reviewed again, 01:29:00.022 --> 01:29:03.024 so there could be more data collected over the next couple of years 01:29:03.024 --> 01:29:06.015 and we'll see how it is. 01:29:06.015 --> 01:29:09.007 So I recommend this report and hopefully it gets through. 01:29:09.007 --> 01:29:10.020 Thank you. 01:29:10.020 --> 01:29:12.007 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:29:12.007 --> 01:29:13.020 We'll now put it to the vote. 01:29:13.020 --> 01:29:15.007 All those in favour. 01:29:15.007 --> 01:29:16.020 All those opposed. 01:29:16.020 --> 01:29:18.007 And the motion is carried. 01:29:21.020 --> 01:29:26.006 We now move on to item 4.4, Bi-Annual Customer Experience Report July 01:29:26.006 --> 01:29:28.005 to December 2022. 01:29:28.005 --> 01:29:30.010 The item presents Council with a the Bi-Annual 01:29:30.010 --> 01:29:32.013 Customer Experience Report. 01:29:32.013 --> 01:29:36.000 Do we have a mover? 01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:37.012 Councillor Bodsworth. 01:29:37.012 --> 01:29:39.000 Is it as per the recommendation? 01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:40.020 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: Yes, thanks, Mayor. 01:29:40.020 --> 01:29:43.007 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: And do we have a seconder, please? 01:29:43.007 --> 01:29:44.020 Councillor Gazzard, thank you. 01:29:44.020 --> 01:29:46.023 Did you want to speak, Councillor Bodsworth? 01:29:46.023 --> 01:29:48.010 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: Thanks. 01:29:48.010 --> 01:29:49.023 Look, I'll keep it brief. 01:29:49.023 --> 01:29:52.000 This is a recommendation to note the report. 01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:57.000 I think the beauty of these reports is that they provide transparency 01:29:57.000 --> 01:30:01.016 to community on the things their fellow citizens 01:30:01.016 --> 01:30:04.011 believe we're doing well or we're not doing well. 01:30:04.011 --> 01:30:12.005 It provides our officers and ourselves as Councillors with a good way of working 01:30:12.005 --> 01:30:15.000 out the things that we're doing well and not doing well, 01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:16.018 so I think it's absolutely essential. 01:30:16.018 --> 01:30:20.007 It's also mandated through the Local Government Act now, 01:30:20.007 --> 01:30:22.002 which is a good thing. 01:30:22.002 --> 01:30:25.010 There are a whole lot of different metrics that are expressed 01:30:25.010 --> 01:30:27.010 in this report. 01:30:27.010 --> 01:30:31.010 There are a lot of different channels for people to either complain or 01:30:31.010 --> 01:30:34.004 to compliment us. 01:30:34.004 --> 01:30:39.022 I note that new waste contracts, which we voted on a while back, 01:30:39.022 --> 01:30:46.015 kerb side waste contracts that include constant GPS monitoring of trucks 01:30:46.015 --> 01:30:52.018 and a lot of camera monitoring should make a difference to waste-related complaints, 01:30:52.018 --> 01:30:56.006 which are quite a large percentage of the complaints. 01:30:56.006 --> 01:31:03.002 I also note the impact of La Nina, basically simultaneously La Nina weather 01:31:03.002 --> 01:31:08.000 patterns with extraordinary rainfall and wind, COVID 01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:15.005 and other unusual circumstances which are visible in this report and I'd 01:31:15.005 --> 01:31:18.013 like to thank the community for their understanding and patience 01:31:18.013 --> 01:31:23.016 through that period when we've struggled to keep up with our responsibilities 01:31:23.016 --> 01:31:29.018 and I'd particularly like to thank Council staff for their hard work 01:31:29.018 --> 01:31:35.003 over a relentlessly long period maintaining good levels of service. 01:31:35.003 --> 01:31:40.011 So as this report notes, there are lots of things that we need to keep trying 01:31:40.011 --> 01:31:43.001 to improve, lots of things that we're doing really, 01:31:43.001 --> 01:31:47.006 really well, but the most important thing of all is that we have this program 01:31:47.006 --> 01:31:50.023 which guides us in those improvements. 01:31:50.023 --> 01:31:52.011 Thanks. 01:31:52.011 --> 01:31:53.023 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:31:53.023 --> 01:31:55.011 Councillor Gazzard? 01:31:55.011 --> 01:31:56.023 Would anyone else like to speak? 01:31:56.023 --> 01:31:58.011 Councillor Allen? 01:31:58.011 --> 01:31:59.023 CR GARY ALLEN: Thanks, Mayor. 01:31:59.023 --> 01:32:03.008 Look, I continue to be surprised at the lowish number of residents who use 01:32:03.008 --> 01:32:05.014 the customer request management system. 01:32:05.014 --> 01:32:10.007 In the past two years being a Councillor, I regard this to be the most effective way 01:32:10.007 --> 01:32:15.000 to ensure that a resident request or complaint is followed up in the system. 01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:18.018 In any system there will always be faults and some requests complaints may not be 01:32:18.018 --> 01:32:21.004 answered in an acceptable timeframe. 01:32:21.004 --> 01:32:26.001 These, I believe, are very few and if this occurs, the customer has a record 01:32:26.001 --> 01:32:29.013 to then make a follow-up complaint. 01:32:29.013 --> 01:32:33.014 Look, I appreciate that I may get the nickname of polypharma 01:32:33.014 --> 01:32:39.005 as the Lorne ward residents believe that I am handballing their concerns. 01:32:39.005 --> 01:32:42.022 However, I'm a convert and I wish to take this opportunity 01:32:42.022 --> 01:32:45.002 of promoting the system. 01:32:45.002 --> 01:32:47.022 Customers, you receive a unique reference number 01:32:47.022 --> 01:32:50.017 and information on when you will receive a response 01:32:50.017 --> 01:32:53.016 from the relevant action officer. 01:32:53.016 --> 01:32:57.008 The Council is committed to completing both customer requests 01:32:57.008 --> 01:33:01.012 and complaints within the timeframe and as you can see from this report, 01:33:01.012 --> 01:33:07.012 the Council measures the completion rate of requests within the timeframe. 01:33:07.012 --> 01:33:09.000 Thank you. 01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:10.012 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:33:10.012 --> 01:33:12.001 Councillor Wellington. 01:33:12.001 --> 01:33:13.024 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Thanks very much. 01:33:13.024 --> 01:33:17.000 As I've said numerous times, complaints is an opportunity, 01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:20.007 so we definitely should welcome them. 01:33:20.007 --> 01:33:23.009 As I have said previously as well, I'm just really surprised 01:33:23.009 --> 01:33:26.003 at the low number requiring investigation. 01:33:26.003 --> 01:33:28.023 I do think a lot of complaints are dealt with very quickly 01:33:28.023 --> 01:33:33.013 and addressed really well, but I also 01:33:33.013 --> 01:33:37.007 - I don't know how anyone can be a Councillor on the shire and not walk 01:33:37.007 --> 01:33:41.011 down the street of their town in areas where people know them 01:33:41.011 --> 01:33:46.008 and not be inundated with complaints, because that's what I get and I'm sure 01:33:46.008 --> 01:33:51.011 if others do that walking down the street, they must get people coming up complaining 01:33:51.011 --> 01:33:52.024 about different things. 01:33:52.024 --> 01:33:56.008 Now, for whatever reason, some of those things are requests for service, 01:33:56.008 --> 01:33:58.000 but others are complaints about 01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:02.013 - you know, the mud hut in Winchelsea, I can tell you I've had probably, 01:34:02.013 --> 01:34:06.001 I don't know, 100 complaints about that in the last couple of months, 01:34:06.001 --> 01:34:10.000 few weeks, about the engagement process there. 01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:15.000 If I look at the number of complaints reported here, 27 upheld 01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:20.011 and 48 partially upheld, that means in my ward, 01:34:20.011 --> 01:34:24.017 if Winchelsea ward had a relative proportion of the complaints 01:34:24.017 --> 01:34:27.018 across the shire, 7 complaints would have been upheld 01:34:27.018 --> 01:34:29.020 and 12 closely upheld. 01:34:29.020 --> 01:34:32.003 I mean, it just doesn't accord with my experience. 01:34:32.003 --> 01:34:34.011 So I think we have to try to understand better what 01:34:34.011 --> 01:34:41.008 we're counting here and, you know, how we can better capture the community 01:34:41.008 --> 01:34:42.021 feedback. 01:34:42.021 --> 01:34:45.023 We know from the customer experience, the satisfaction survey, 01:34:45.023 --> 01:34:50.016 that overall satisfaction in the last customer survey I think was 57%, 01:34:50.016 --> 01:34:55.019 so that means that 43% aren't happy, and I just don't believe that that only 01:34:55.019 --> 01:34:58.015 generates such a small number of complaints 01:34:58.015 --> 01:35:01.017 and certainly my experience people aren't complaining, it's just 01:35:01.017 --> 01:35:05.010 about where they complain and how they frame their complaints as to 01:35:05.010 --> 01:35:07.010 whether they're counted. 01:35:07.010 --> 01:35:09.006 So it's good to have the data presented. 01:35:09.006 --> 01:35:13.011 I do believe complaints is an opportunity and as an organisation, we need 01:35:13.011 --> 01:35:17.022 to be measuring our complaints and analysing them and trying to work 01:35:17.022 --> 01:35:19.009 out where they're coming from. 01:35:19.009 --> 01:35:20.023 I'd like to see us respond to them. 01:35:20.023 --> 01:35:25.018 I've said for many years satisfaction, which is sort of a reflection 01:35:25.018 --> 01:35:30.023 of complaints, in the Winchelsea ward on unsealed roads has generally been 01:35:30.023 --> 01:35:33.011 around 30 to 40% and it's been highlighted 01:35:33.011 --> 01:35:37.003 in the satisfaction surveys every year for as many years as I can remember, 01:35:37.003 --> 01:35:43.022 but it's never rated to get its own strategy, 01:35:43.022 --> 01:35:46.014 (inaudible) more money into the strategy which was good. 01:35:46.014 --> 01:35:48.001 But it's not 01:35:48.001 --> 01:35:49.020 - so I just think there's a problem 01:35:49.020 --> 01:35:53.022 - not a problem, but this is not the full picture 01:35:53.022 --> 01:35:59.017 and I think that we need to over time develop a better understanding 01:35:59.017 --> 01:36:03.001 of the full picture and respond to it appropriately through a strategy 01:36:03.001 --> 01:36:04.014 and our plan. 01:36:04.014 --> 01:36:06.001 Thank you. 01:36:06.001 --> 01:36:07.014 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:36:07.014 --> 01:36:09.009 CR PAUL BARKER: Just a question, Mayor. 01:36:09.009 --> 01:36:14.016 How many of the 515 missed bin reports did we have evidence that a garbage truck did 01:36:14.016 --> 01:36:17.013 pass by the property and the complainant just forgot 01:36:17.013 --> 01:36:19.022 to put the bins out? 01:36:19.022 --> 01:36:22.020 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: I think that would have to be take on notice 01:36:22.020 --> 01:36:26.008 because that's a very detailed, specific question which I imagine officers 01:36:26.008 --> 01:36:27.021 don't have at hand. 01:36:27.021 --> 01:36:30.023 So that can be taken on notice and we can endeavour to look into that, 01:36:30.023 --> 01:36:34.002 or it may not be possible to respond to, but thanks for your question, 01:36:34.002 --> 01:36:35.015 Councillor Barker. 01:36:35.015 --> 01:36:38.000 CR PAUL BARKER: Because if it's a significant cost, 01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:41.007 I want the rest of the community to understand that people making bogus 01:36:41.007 --> 01:36:43.013 complaints do cost us. 01:36:43.013 --> 01:36:46.002 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: We'll take that on notice, thanks. 01:36:46.002 --> 01:36:48.023 Councillor Bodsworth, did you have any closing statements? 01:36:48.023 --> 01:36:50.010 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: No, thanks. 01:36:50.010 --> 01:36:51.023 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: No. 01:36:51.023 --> 01:36:53.014 We'll now put the motion to the vote. 01:36:53.014 --> 01:36:55.001 All those in favour. 01:36:55.001 --> 01:36:56.014 And the motion is carried. 01:36:56.014 --> 01:36:59.005 We now move on to the Adoption of Residential Nature Strip 01:36:59.005 --> 01:37:00.018 Policy and Guidelines. 01:37:00.018 --> 01:37:03.024 The purpose of this report is to present the Residential Nature Strip 01:37:03.024 --> 01:37:06.006 Policy and Residential Nature Strip Guidelines 01:37:06.006 --> 01:37:07.018 to Council for adoption. 01:37:07.018 --> 01:37:09.006 Do we have a mover of a motion? 01:37:09.006 --> 01:37:10.018 Councillor Gazzard. 01:37:10.018 --> 01:37:12.010 And a seconder? 01:37:12.010 --> 01:37:14.007 Councillor Stapleton. 01:37:14.007 --> 01:37:16.000 And is it as per the motion? 01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:24.023 CR KATE GAZZARD: Yes, as per the recommendation, thanks, Mayor. 01:37:24.023 --> 01:37:28.002 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Can I ask a question before we start, please? 01:37:28.002 --> 01:37:29.015 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Yes. 01:37:29.015 --> 01:37:32.018 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: There's a statement within the guidelines 01:37:32.018 --> 01:37:35.022 of this that says it's not Council's intention to require residents 01:37:35.022 --> 01:37:38.004 to retrospectively comply with the guidelines. 01:37:38.004 --> 01:37:41.000 I'm just wondering if somehow in this we can incorporate that 01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:44.008 that presumably, if it's passed tonight, refers to as of now. 01:37:44.008 --> 01:37:45.023 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: That's right. 01:37:45.023 --> 01:37:49.006 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: I mean, it's presumably not saying in the future 01:37:49.006 --> 01:37:53.001 if you don't (inaudible) the guidelines, but you don't get caught, we're not going 01:37:53.001 --> 01:37:54.016 to make you do it retrospectively. 01:37:54.016 --> 01:37:57.004 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: No, it's my understanding that as 01:37:57.004 --> 01:37:59.017 of once the policy is passed, anything that's already 01:37:59.017 --> 01:38:01.004 gravelled or doesn't comply 01:38:01.004 --> 01:38:04.011 - it's from now going forward that you can't have gravel nature strips, 01:38:04.011 --> 01:38:06.015 et cetera. 01:38:06.015 --> 01:38:10.009 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Can I suggest that the movers might consider that somehow 01:38:10.009 --> 01:38:15.013 that's incorporated in the recommendation because otherwise it will create, 01:38:15.013 --> 01:38:17.002 I believe 01:38:17.002 --> 01:38:19.023 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Are you putting forward an amendment or 01:38:19.023 --> 01:38:21.011 foreshadowing an amendment? 01:38:21.011 --> 01:38:24.004 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: I'm just suggesting that the mover 01:38:24.004 --> 01:38:28.011 of the motion might consider incorporating an amendment that says that 01:38:28.011 --> 01:38:30.015 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thanks for that comment. 01:38:30.015 --> 01:38:32.020 We'll move on and let Councillor Gazzard speak 01:38:32.020 --> 01:38:34.007 to the motion. 01:38:34.007 --> 01:38:35.020 CR KATE GAZZARD: Thank you. 01:38:35.020 --> 01:38:37.009 I will move the motion as it stands. 01:38:37.009 --> 01:38:41.012 I think in the communications that go out to the public we could make it quite clear 01:38:41.012 --> 01:38:47.010 that the policy is in place now and we're not enforcing it retrospectively 01:38:47.010 --> 01:38:50.019 in terms of people who have certain nature strips 01:38:50.019 --> 01:38:57.004 having to change it, but if people from now on do make any changes 01:38:57.004 --> 01:39:03.020 that aren't in keeping with the policy, then there will be fines applied. 01:39:03.020 --> 01:39:09.007 So this nature strip policy feels like it's been a long time coming. 01:39:09.007 --> 01:39:13.020 Thank you to the officers for all the work that's been put in to this. 01:39:13.020 --> 01:39:19.018 It is something that we've received quite a lot of correspondence about 01:39:19.018 --> 01:39:24.020 and we've compared with other Councils who have existing nature strip 01:39:24.020 --> 01:39:28.007 policies and guidelines. 01:39:28.007 --> 01:39:31.005 I think it is important that we have this policy 01:39:31.005 --> 01:39:33.024 and the guidelines for clarity. 01:39:33.024 --> 01:39:37.006 Nature strips are obviously Council-owned land, but are managed 01:39:37.006 --> 01:39:39.021 by the property owners. 01:39:39.021 --> 01:39:44.021 They're a public space that can contribute to the sense of place and community 01:39:44.021 --> 01:39:48.020 and really can be a pride for neighbourhoods 01:39:48.020 --> 01:39:53.000 and certainly ours sometimes is a little overgrown 01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:59.006 and our neighbour mows it for us, so it's a real community feel. 01:39:59.006 --> 01:40:02.000 There's lots of considerations in the making 01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:07.016 of this policy and I know a lot of people feel very strongly that certain 01:40:07.016 --> 01:40:12.021 plants or grasses should be mandated, whereas other people would 01:40:12.021 --> 01:40:18.010 like gravel or other materials. 01:40:18.010 --> 01:40:21.002 It's difficult because there's a lot of considerations, 01:40:21.002 --> 01:40:24.001 different people have different aesthetic appeals, 01:40:24.001 --> 01:40:32.015 and I guess the main things that we've had to contend with are safety in terms 01:40:32.015 --> 01:40:39.005 of road safety and pedestrian access, that nature strips needs to be accessed 01:40:39.005 --> 01:40:44.005 for the amenities with gas and power and rubbish bins. 01:40:48.002 --> 01:40:52.000 They play an active role in our climate emergency response plan 01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:56.007 and also contribute towards a healthy environment for people, plants 01:40:56.007 --> 01:40:57.020 and animals. 01:41:00.007 --> 01:41:04.022 The other things that we need to be very aware of are bushfire risk 01:41:04.022 --> 01:41:14.001 and there are areas where the new rules are difficult to enforce in certain parts 01:41:14.001 --> 01:41:17.004 of the shire and I acknowledge that the hinterland 01:41:17.004 --> 01:41:23.004 and different areas in the coast do differ in terms of vegetation and so while this 01:41:23.004 --> 01:41:27.019 is shire wide, we do have to be somewhat flexible 01:41:27.019 --> 01:41:32.002 with the existing nature strips that are in place. 01:41:32.002 --> 01:41:34.022 So I think the main thing is that we're encouraging greening 01:41:34.022 --> 01:41:38.007 of the nature strips, so grass, native plants that are less than 01:41:38.007 --> 01:41:43.010 50 centimetres tall, and even edible gardens that can be 01:41:43.010 --> 01:41:46.019 a creative way to decorate your nature strip. 01:41:46.019 --> 01:41:51.007 Gravel, concrete and artificial turf are not allowed. 01:41:51.007 --> 01:41:55.016 Note that all trees are managed by Council and so you can't plant new 01:41:55.016 --> 01:41:59.012 trees, but Council might be able to plant a tree on your nature strip 01:41:59.012 --> 01:42:07.007 if it's deemed safe, and anything outside of these guidelines requires a permit 01:42:07.007 --> 01:42:08.020 and if there's any 01:42:08.020 --> 01:42:11.002 - if there's no clarity, then you can contact our 01:42:11.002 --> 01:42:12.018 development engineering team. 01:42:15.002 --> 01:42:20.014 So I think as a starting point, having had no guideline 01:42:20.014 --> 01:42:27.019 and now this policy, I think it reads well and is generally quite clear. 01:42:27.019 --> 01:42:33.000 We won't be forcing people to change their existing nature strip, 01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:39.003 but I will note that as per VicRoads law, it's illegal to park on your nature strip, 01:42:39.003 --> 01:42:44.018 so any of the gravel nature strips made specifically for parking, 01:42:44.018 --> 01:42:48.024 actually that's not allowed in terms of the road laws. 01:42:48.024 --> 01:42:53.001 So thank you to Council staff and thank you to all the submissions 01:42:53.001 --> 01:42:57.007 and the community members who have been contacting us about this issue 01:42:57.007 --> 01:43:02.016 and hopefully this provides some clarity. 01:43:02.016 --> 01:43:04.003 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:43:04.003 --> 01:43:05.016 Councillor Stapleton? 01:43:05.016 --> 01:43:07.006 CR LIBBY STAPLETON: Thanks, Mayor. 01:43:07.006 --> 01:43:10.002 So as we all know, coming from different parts of the shire, 01:43:10.002 --> 01:43:14.023 the character and type and role of nature strips varies enormously 01:43:14.023 --> 01:43:16.016 across the shire. 01:43:16.016 --> 01:43:22.010 The thing I really like about this policy is that it's a principles-based approach, 01:43:22.010 --> 01:43:25.018 which means that the policy and the guidelines that come with it 01:43:25.018 --> 01:43:28.018 will help to provide Council officers and the community 01:43:28.018 --> 01:43:32.010 with greater understanding of how nature strips can be treated, 01:43:32.010 --> 01:43:36.009 whilst still allowing enough flexibility to cater for the different needs 01:43:36.009 --> 01:43:39.022 that are inherent in each of our townships. 01:43:39.022 --> 01:43:43.012 As a whole, I think that nature strips should add to 01:43:43.012 --> 01:43:47.009 and not detract from streetscapes and township character and hopefully add 01:43:47.009 --> 01:43:52.001 to a cooler and greener environment and I'm confident that these guidelines 01:43:52.001 --> 01:43:54.021 will help us to achieve that. 01:43:54.021 --> 01:44:00.020 Just acknowledging Councillor Wellington's point about the retrospective application 01:44:00.020 --> 01:44:04.010 of the policy, I'm comfortable that in the guidelines 01:44:04.010 --> 01:44:08.005 under section 2, which is policy application, 01:44:08.005 --> 01:44:14.006 I think it's pretty well covered with, "Council recognises that at the time 01:44:14.006 --> 01:44:17.002 of the adoption of the Residential Nature Strip Policy 01:44:17.002 --> 01:44:22.000 and Guidelines there are many nature strips through the shire where residents 01:44:22.000 --> 01:44:25.005 have undertaken works which do not comply with the new guidelines. 01:44:25.005 --> 01:44:28.001 It is not Council's intention to require residents 01:44:28.001 --> 01:44:29.014 to retrospectively comply". 01:44:29.014 --> 01:44:34.017 So I feel like that covers off that concern adequately. 01:44:34.017 --> 01:44:37.016 And although the guidelines will not require residents 01:44:37.016 --> 01:44:40.019 to retrospectively comply with the new standards, 01:44:40.019 --> 01:44:44.019 I'm really hopeful that they provide an opportunity to educate 01:44:44.019 --> 01:44:49.003 and inspire our community to create nature strips that contribute 01:44:49.003 --> 01:44:51.016 to a more sustainable environment. 01:44:51.016 --> 01:44:53.003 Thank you. 01:44:53.003 --> 01:44:54.016 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:44:54.016 --> 01:44:56.010 Do any other Councillors wish to speak? 01:44:56.010 --> 01:44:57.023 Councillor Bodsworth? 01:44:57.023 --> 01:44:59.013 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: Thanks, Mayor. 01:44:59.013 --> 01:45:01.000 I agree. 01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:02.013 I think this 01:45:02.013 --> 01:45:04.013 - well, we haven't had a nature strip policy 01:45:04.013 --> 01:45:07.013 before, so I think this is a great first attempt. 01:45:07.013 --> 01:45:11.009 I think partly it's good because of the input that we had from members 01:45:11.009 --> 01:45:17.010 of the public, so I'd like to acknowledge in some cases some quite fierce input 01:45:17.010 --> 01:45:21.010 from members of the public which pressure tested our 01:45:21.010 --> 01:45:25.013 work while we were doing it and I think has resulted in a 01:45:25.013 --> 01:45:27.001 better policy and guidelines. 01:45:29.005 --> 01:45:33.011 In addition to the part that Councillor Stapleton 01:45:33.011 --> 01:45:36.011 highlighted in the policy application in the guidelines, 01:45:36.011 --> 01:45:40.013 there's an important paragraph around Council recognising that a 01:45:40.013 --> 01:45:42.023 "historic lack of a clear Nature Strip Policy 01:45:42.023 --> 01:45:46.004 and Guidelines has resulted in widespread inappropriate 01:45:46.004 --> 01:45:49.012 and unsustainable uses and development of nature strips". 01:45:49.012 --> 01:45:53.017 It goes on to say, "With the Policy and these Guidelines, Council aims 01:45:53.017 --> 01:45:58.024 to initiate a shift away from those uses and towards more positive outcomes in line 01:45:58.024 --> 01:46:00.014 with the Policy Principles". 01:46:00.014 --> 01:46:03.012 So I think what is good about that is that it highlights that this 01:46:03.012 --> 01:46:13.007 is not kind of a sudden revelatory change, it's a shift, 01:46:13.007 --> 01:46:18.000 and it involves people getting to grips with the policy principles 01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:22.022 and particularly the fact that nature strips are public land and they're 01:46:22.022 --> 01:46:28.017 for public benefit and they're not for exclusive private benefit. 01:46:28.017 --> 01:46:33.016 That paragraph I noted is so important it's 01:46:33.016 --> 01:46:37.021 on the same page twice, so we could probably get rid of one 01:46:37.021 --> 01:46:39.008 of those. 01:46:39.008 --> 01:46:42.017 But yeah, look, I think this is really good. 01:46:42.017 --> 01:46:46.000 I think there's a review period in several years' time. 01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:49.016 I think that provides us a good opportunity to incorporate feedback that 01:46:49.016 --> 01:46:54.008 we get as we put this to practice, and yeah. 01:46:54.008 --> 01:46:57.007 So thanks to members of the public who had their input 01:46:57.007 --> 01:47:02.000 and thanks to officers for their good work on this. 01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:03.013 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:47:03.013 --> 01:47:05.000 Councillor Barker? 01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:06.019 CR PAUL BARKER: Just a quick question. 01:47:06.019 --> 01:47:09.001 What's it going to cost to implement this policy? 01:47:11.013 --> 01:47:14.002 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: I'll pass that on to the CEO. 01:47:14.002 --> 01:47:17.000 ROBYN SEYMOUR: Thank you for the question, Councillor Barker. 01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:18.023 We haven't quantified the direct cost. 01:47:18.023 --> 01:47:22.009 Part of the intention of the policy is to try to make it as easy 01:47:22.009 --> 01:47:25.004 as possible where we're clear around what's allowed 01:47:25.004 --> 01:47:30.017 and it's only really when it's outside of that that residents 01:47:30.017 --> 01:47:35.012 and ratepayers should feel that they need to come to us to seek a permit. 01:47:35.012 --> 01:47:41.013 So we're hoping that that means that it will be fairly light touch in terms 01:47:41.013 --> 01:47:45.008 of the need for support from Council officers and it 01:47:45.008 --> 01:47:50.018 will just be those occasional opportunities where community members want 01:47:50.018 --> 01:47:54.012 to do something a bit different on their nature strips that we would be 01:47:54.012 --> 01:47:56.009 involved. 01:47:56.009 --> 01:47:57.022 CR PAUL BARKER: Okay. 01:47:57.022 --> 01:47:59.009 Yes, you can start the clock. 01:47:59.009 --> 01:48:02.019 Principle 2 states that nature strips must offer safety for pedestrians 01:48:02.019 --> 01:48:05.023 to prevent them from having to walk on the road. 01:48:05.023 --> 01:48:11.019 We've got hundreds of kilometres of roads with nature strips that are not safe 01:48:11.019 --> 01:48:14.019 for walking on. 01:48:14.019 --> 01:48:18.009 I fear that we're backing ourselves into a corner where we'll force ourselves 01:48:18.009 --> 01:48:21.008 to spend money that we don't have on nature strips. 01:48:21.008 --> 01:48:24.014 Now, I understand that there's some 01:48:24.014 --> 01:48:30.004 consideration because it's all not like for like, but as I mentioned before 01:48:30.004 --> 01:48:34.001 about this direction Council has had with the climate alarmism and got 01:48:34.001 --> 01:48:37.020 to green everything, it's going to come at a cost. 01:48:40.018 --> 01:48:43.018 We're in a recession. 01:48:43.018 --> 01:48:47.008 It's like you've got the blinkers on. 01:48:47.008 --> 01:48:50.005 We just can't be everything for everyone. 01:48:50.005 --> 01:48:54.004 I can understand the intent and desire to clear things up, 01:48:54.004 --> 01:48:59.003 but I can't support it. 01:48:59.003 --> 01:49:01.024 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Councillor Allen, did you wish to speak? 01:49:01.024 --> 01:49:06.016 CR GARY ALLEN: Yes, look, I think this is an important and good start. 01:49:06.016 --> 01:49:10.003 Councillor Stapleton talked about most of the things that I wanted to say, 01:49:10.003 --> 01:49:15.014 but I would like to stress that I accept that it's a challenging issue 01:49:15.014 --> 01:49:20.020 with the difficulty of crafting a policy that fits the differing locations 01:49:20.020 --> 01:49:25.022 within the shire, the obvious one being topography, 01:49:25.022 --> 01:49:32.000 another heritage and character, and I'm quite confident not being 01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:35.017 retrospective that it will in fact protect the tree canopy 01:49:35.017 --> 01:49:39.018 in Lorne which is so important to the Lorne community. 01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:44.018 Thank you. 01:49:44.018 --> 01:49:46.005 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:49:46.005 --> 01:49:47.018 Councillor Gazzard 01:49:47.018 --> 01:49:50.003 - oh, Councillor Wellington, did you wish to speak? 01:49:50.003 --> 01:49:51.023 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Thanks so much. 01:49:51.023 --> 01:49:54.010 I'd like to first of all say I think this policy was kind 01:49:54.010 --> 01:49:57.019 of stimulated by (inaudible), who are Torquay residents 01:49:57.019 --> 01:50:00.016 who were very concerned about the gravelling and the sort 01:50:00.016 --> 01:50:05.000 of changing of nature strips in North Torquay to make them impermeable, 01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:10.010 which obviously just adds to the environmental risks and threats 01:50:10.010 --> 01:50:14.013 in that area and I think they have pursued it really strongly and 01:50:14.013 --> 01:50:17.006 on behalf of the community, so I'd really like to thank them 01:50:17.006 --> 01:50:18.019 for what they've done there. 01:50:18.019 --> 01:50:21.024 I think that statement about requiring retrospectively comply 01:50:21.024 --> 01:50:24.015 with the guidelines is both redundant and unclear 01:50:24.015 --> 01:50:26.002 and I think it should be deleted. 01:50:28.021 --> 01:50:31.019 I think we obviously have the right to direct residents 01:50:31.019 --> 01:50:35.023 to remove any structural planting which we deem to be a safety risk, 01:50:35.023 --> 01:50:39.005 but we don't need to make a statement about retrospective compliance. 01:50:39.005 --> 01:50:42.011 You know, people are 01:50:42.011 --> 01:50:46.004 - I mean, how are we going to know what the state 01:50:46.004 --> 01:50:49.021 of our nature strips is as of tonight? 01:50:49.021 --> 01:50:52.004 How are we going to know when in five years' time, 01:50:52.004 --> 01:50:55.024 if we find a nature strip among the 800 acres or so I think it is 01:50:55.024 --> 01:51:00.000 of nature strips we own, we find a nature strip that doesn't comply 01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:02.018 with this policy, how are we going to know when it happened? 01:51:02.018 --> 01:51:06.001 So I think we're going into a bit of minefield there, so I think it's going 01:51:06.001 --> 01:51:07.013 to cause problems in the future. 01:51:07.013 --> 01:51:10.013 I noted the duplicate paragraph on page 71 as well. 01:51:10.013 --> 01:51:15.008 Dot point 4 on page 74 is missing the last dot point. 01:51:15.008 --> 01:51:18.019 And then we talk about garden edges and planter boxes on page 75 01:51:18.019 --> 01:51:23.022 and unfortunately my computer is playing up and I can't get to page 75 01:51:23.022 --> 01:51:28.004 at the moment but I think that related when I made my notes 01:51:28.004 --> 01:51:32.023 - that related to tripping hazards and I would have thought that planter 01:51:32.023 --> 01:51:34.016 boxes are a tripping hazard. 01:51:36.016 --> 01:51:39.002 Oh, no, actually, sorry, there's just an edit there. 01:51:39.002 --> 01:51:40.014 I don't think it is. 01:51:40.014 --> 01:51:42.002 It's an edit. 01:51:42.002 --> 01:51:46.021 In terms of the merits of the policy, I sincerely hope we enforce the illegality 01:51:46.021 --> 01:51:48.020 of parking on nature strips. 01:51:48.020 --> 01:51:50.008 We have not done it. 01:51:50.008 --> 01:51:53.013 We've ended up with a big car park in North Torquay on our nature strips 01:51:53.013 --> 01:51:55.015 that houses people's boats and caravans. 01:51:55.015 --> 01:52:00.005 It's really very detrimental to amenity, it's very detrimental to the environment, 01:52:00.005 --> 01:52:02.020 and it shouldn't be permitted and we should be enforcing 01:52:02.020 --> 01:52:05.007 that much more stringently. 01:52:05.007 --> 01:52:07.006 I think the guidelines generally are good. 01:52:07.006 --> 01:52:11.016 Hopefully most people will comply and we will stop people gravelling their nature 01:52:11.016 --> 01:52:15.011 strips and I hope we do actually go out with some communication to builders 01:52:15.011 --> 01:52:16.024 and home owners. 01:52:16.024 --> 01:52:19.016 We should be sending these guidelines to people who apply 01:52:19.016 --> 01:52:23.012 for planning permits or building permits, or whatever, so that they've got them and 01:52:23.012 --> 01:52:25.000 they know them. 01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:27.010 We're talking about this not being retrospective, 01:52:27.010 --> 01:52:30.008 if people have gravel or other surfaces they would incur costs. 01:52:35.023 --> 01:52:40.022 I just feel that we need to be able to do better than that in the long term. 01:52:40.022 --> 01:52:44.012 I believe there was a requirement for those people to seek permits before 01:52:44.012 --> 01:52:48.001 they did that and I believe that needs to be addressed 01:52:48.001 --> 01:52:49.013 in the longer term. 01:52:49.013 --> 01:52:52.002 You know, this is an improvement on what we had, but it's 01:52:52.002 --> 01:52:54.013 by no means perfect and I really 01:52:54.013 --> 01:52:57.024 - there's obviously no point because everyone has decided 01:52:57.024 --> 01:53:00.022 what they'll do already, so I don't think that there's any point 01:53:00.022 --> 01:53:03.017 in moving amendments, but I'm tempted to do that but I won't. 01:53:03.017 --> 01:53:05.017 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you, Councillor. 01:53:05.017 --> 01:53:08.006 Councillor Wellington, you've now gone over time now. 01:53:08.006 --> 01:53:09.019 CR ROSE HODGE: I'll just quickly 01:53:09.019 --> 01:53:12.005 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Sure thing, Councillor Hodge. 01:53:12.005 --> 01:53:14.015 CR ROSE HODGE: I know a lot of nature strips changed. 01:53:14.015 --> 01:53:17.009 I can remember the drought in 2000 and that's when a lot 01:53:17.009 --> 01:53:22.003 of people I know let the grasses go and gravelled, 01:53:22.003 --> 01:53:24.018 and there was only guidelines. 01:53:24.018 --> 01:53:26.014 Now the policy is in, we can look at it. 01:53:26.014 --> 01:53:29.007 And I know people that do prefer grass, that they 01:53:29.007 --> 01:53:32.007 will probably change their gravel to grass. 01:53:32.007 --> 01:53:35.015 But I really hope this document is sent to other agencies. 01:53:35.015 --> 01:53:39.013 I know it doesn't include them, but my pet hate 01:53:39.013 --> 01:53:43.011 is that horrendous roundabout as you come into Torquay, 01:53:43.011 --> 01:53:47.012 it's the ugliest entrance into any town in the shire, 01:53:47.012 --> 01:53:51.011 and we have tried to get the Department of Transport to at least do something 01:53:51.011 --> 01:53:54.008 to it and they just either won't or don't. 01:53:54.008 --> 01:53:58.000 So I'd really like to ensure that the Department 01:53:58.000 --> 01:53:59.013 of Transport and other ones 01:53:59.013 --> 01:54:03.005 - you know, we can do low maintenance greenery, 01:54:03.005 --> 01:54:07.022 but that is the ugliest roundabout ever and I'd just like to say it 01:54:07.022 --> 01:54:09.010 is only a start. 01:54:09.010 --> 01:54:12.011 This nature strip policy isn't perfect. 01:54:12.011 --> 01:54:16.011 I think it opened a Pandora's box, actually, from different areas 01:54:16.011 --> 01:54:19.015 of the shire and also parts of the shire that are 01:54:19.015 --> 01:54:25.022 under the bushfire management overlay. 01:54:25.022 --> 01:54:28.001 So that even comes into play. 01:54:28.001 --> 01:54:33.003 So it isn't perfect, but it's a start and any new developments that come in now, 01:54:33.003 --> 01:54:38.002 and there will be new development in Torquay, no doubt, and in Winchelsea, 01:54:38.002 --> 01:54:42.001 that with these new developments it's just known that grass needs to be placed. 01:54:42.001 --> 01:54:45.000 So I think it's a good start, there's still growth in the area, 01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:48.001 and I think people could retrospectively change their 01:54:48.001 --> 01:54:51.017 - willingly change their nature strip back. 01:54:51.017 --> 01:54:56.000 So I'll be voting for this recommendation. 01:54:56.000 --> 01:54:57.013 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 01:54:57.013 --> 01:55:01.002 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: May I just ask a question, Ms Pattison? 01:55:01.002 --> 01:55:02.015 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Yes. 01:55:02.015 --> 01:55:06.009 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: I'm just wondering could one of the officers just clarify 01:55:06.009 --> 01:55:10.016 for Council how the guidelines will be enforced? 01:55:10.016 --> 01:55:13.013 Normally guidelines are just that, they're only guidelines, 01:55:13.013 --> 01:55:15.024 as Councillor Hodge just stated. 01:55:15.024 --> 01:55:19.009 Are these going to be adopted into the community local law, 01:55:19.009 --> 01:55:22.001 is that the intention? 01:55:22.001 --> 01:55:24.008 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: I'll pass that on to our CEO. 01:55:24.008 --> 01:55:27.012 ROBYN SEYMOUR: Thank you for the question, Councillor Wellington. 01:55:27.012 --> 01:55:31.018 Yes, the intention is that they will be included in our local laws. 01:55:34.013 --> 01:55:38.022 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: I'd like to move an amendment. 01:55:38.022 --> 01:55:43.006 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Yes, you can put forward your amendment. 01:55:43.006 --> 01:55:45.015 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: My amendment would be that 01:55:45.015 --> 01:55:49.007 - I'm having trouble getting my Council papers up on the screen. 01:55:49.007 --> 01:55:53.024 The amendment would be that Council adopts the Residential Nature Strip Policy 01:55:53.024 --> 01:55:59.005 and Guidelines subsequent to removal of that comment 01:55:59.005 --> 01:56:03.003 about Council not intending to retrospectively enforce the guidelines 01:56:03.003 --> 01:56:08.000 because that's an issue for the local law, not for the guidelines themselves. 01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:17.007 So the amendment would be as it's stated, save for the removal 01:56:17.007 --> 01:56:21.024 of the statement that Council (inaudible) retrospectively implement. 01:56:26.020 --> 01:56:30.005 I can't get the document up on my computer. 01:56:30.005 --> 01:56:32.017 So the statement I think that I've written in my notes 01:56:32.017 --> 01:56:35.016 is it's not Council's intention to require residents 01:56:35.016 --> 01:56:38.017 to retrospectively comply with the guidelines. 01:56:38.017 --> 01:56:42.009 I think that that statement should be deleted and perhaps the officers could put 01:56:42.009 --> 01:56:44.010 up an amendment. 01:56:44.010 --> 01:56:47.020 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: I'll seek clarification with the mover of the motion 01:56:47.020 --> 01:56:51.004 because otherwise we'll need to go to a vote, unless that's accepted. 01:56:51.004 --> 01:56:52.017 SPEAKER: Which part 01:56:52.017 --> 01:56:54.019 - sorry, Councillor Wellington, which part? 01:56:54.019 --> 01:56:58.001 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: It's the statement in the guidelines that says, 01:56:58.001 --> 01:57:01.015 and the officers may be able to direct us to it, "It is not Council's intention 01:57:01.015 --> 01:57:03.023 to require residents to retrospectively comply 01:57:03.023 --> 01:57:08.022 with the guidelines however Council retains the right to direct any resident 01:57:08.022 --> 01:57:13.024 to remove any structure or planting which Council deems to be a safety risk". 01:57:13.024 --> 01:57:15.011 I'd like that 01:57:15.011 --> 01:57:19.003 - I'm suggesting that that statement is removed because issues of what we bring 01:57:19.003 --> 01:57:22.004 into the local law are for the local law, not for 01:57:22.004 --> 01:57:28.015 - shouldn't be incorporated in the policy or the guidelines. 01:57:28.015 --> 01:57:35.023 So the (inaudible) would change would be as it is, with the exception 01:57:39.008 --> 01:57:46.023 of (inaudible) paragraph where that statement fits in the guidelines. 01:57:59.009 --> 01:58:01.011 SPEAKER: Second paragraph on page 71. 01:58:01.011 --> 01:58:04.004 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: It's the second paragraph on page 71. 01:58:04.004 --> 01:58:08.017 Councillor Gazzard, you can either choose to accept it and then it moves on, 01:58:08.017 --> 01:58:12.023 or you can not accept it and we'll put it to the vote 01:58:12.023 --> 01:58:17.008 and then that amendment either lapses or becomes a substantive. 01:58:17.008 --> 01:58:20.020 So given that you were the mover of the motion. 01:58:20.020 --> 01:58:24.007 CR KATE GAZZARD: Yeah, I'm happy to accept that amendment. 01:58:24.007 --> 01:58:25.020 CR LIBBY STAPLETON: I'm not. 01:58:25.020 --> 01:58:27.007 I'm the seconder. 01:58:27.007 --> 01:58:29.014 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: The seconder doesn't, okay. 01:58:29.014 --> 01:58:31.020 Just hold on one second. 01:58:31.020 --> 01:58:34.022 CR LIBBY STAPLETON: Can I just explain why I don't want to second it? 01:58:34.022 --> 01:58:36.010 Is that alright? 01:58:36.010 --> 01:58:40.002 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Just hold on a second, if you will, please. 01:58:40.002 --> 01:58:41.015 Jake, can you 01:58:43.017 --> 01:58:46.023 - JAKE BROWN: Through you, Mayor, if you could just give us 30 01:58:46.023 --> 01:58:48.014 - ROBYN SEYMOUR: I think you missed 01:58:48.014 --> 01:58:52.002 the discussion, which was Councillor Gazzard accepted 01:58:52.002 --> 01:58:55.007 the motion, but 01:58:55.007 --> 01:58:57.019 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Councillor Stapleton did not. 01:58:57.019 --> 01:59:01.001 Do we go to a vote then if the seconder does not accept 01:59:01.001 --> 01:59:04.008 - JAKE BROWN: Through you, Mayor, you require both mover and seconder. 01:59:04.008 --> 01:59:05.021 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Okay. 01:59:05.021 --> 01:59:07.020 So we'll now put the amendment to the vote. 01:59:10.007 --> 01:59:12.011 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: I think the question is 01:59:12.011 --> 01:59:15.017 whether we accept the amendment and then debate it. 01:59:15.017 --> 01:59:18.012 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: That's what I was talking about, sorry. 01:59:18.012 --> 01:59:21.024 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: I don't think there's a seconder to it yet, is there, 01:59:21.024 --> 01:59:23.012 to the amendment? 01:59:23.012 --> 01:59:24.024 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: No. 01:59:24.024 --> 01:59:28.016 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: So the amendment is to delete the statement that starts 01:59:28.016 --> 01:59:31.002 "It is not Council's intention to require residents 01:59:31.002 --> 01:59:33.020 to retrospectively comply with the guidelines however", 01:59:33.020 --> 01:59:37.004 and I think we should just leave it in there that Council retains the right 01:59:37.004 --> 01:59:38.017 to direct any residents. 01:59:38.017 --> 01:59:41.015 So we delete the words from "It is not Council's intention" 01:59:41.015 --> 01:59:43.022 through to "however" 01:59:43.022 --> 01:59:55.009 in that second paragraph on page 71. 01:59:55.009 --> 01:59:56.022 CR KATE GAZZARD: I'm happy to not 01:59:56.022 --> 01:59:59.010 - just to go back to the original motion. 01:59:59.010 --> 02:00:01.002 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Okay, thank you. 02:00:01.002 --> 02:00:04.007 So we've just had a clarification Councillor Gazzard does not accept 02:00:04.007 --> 02:00:06.013 the amendment, nor does Councillor Stapleton. 02:00:06.013 --> 02:00:09.013 So we will return to the original motion and we'll put the motion. 02:00:09.013 --> 02:00:11.015 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: No, I think my motion 02:00:11.015 --> 02:00:13.002 - my motion 02:00:13.002 --> 02:00:16.001 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: It lapses with the mover and the seconder. 02:00:16.001 --> 02:00:19.016 {WHITE} CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: My motion needs to be put if there's a seconder 02:00:19.016 --> 02:00:21.004 of it. 02:00:21.004 --> 02:00:23.021 JAKE BROWN: Through you, Mayor, to accept the amendment, 02:00:23.021 --> 02:00:25.022 you need the mover and the seconder to agree. 02:00:25.022 --> 02:00:27.024 If not, then Councillor Wellington can seek 02:00:27.024 --> 02:00:29.012 a seconder for her amendment. 02:00:29.012 --> 02:00:32.015 If a seconder is accepted, then Council may debate the amendment. 02:00:32.015 --> 02:00:36.021 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Is there a seconder to Councillor Wellington's amendment? 02:00:36.021 --> 02:00:39.021 Councillor Barker. 02:00:39.021 --> 02:00:42.020 JAKE BROWN: Through you, Mayor, can I just put it up on the screen 02:00:42.020 --> 02:00:45.014 to get the wording right first to make sure everyone is happy 02:00:45.014 --> 02:00:48.013 and Councillor Wellington is happy before we commence debate? 02:00:48.013 --> 02:00:50.011 I'll just need probably about 60 seconds. 02:00:50.011 --> 02:00:51.023 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Okay. 02:00:51.023 --> 02:00:54.003 We'll just wait for that to be put on the screen. 02:01:57.024 --> 02:02:01.009 JAKE BROWN: Through you, Mayor, we're displaying the proposed amendment 02:02:01.009 --> 02:02:05.007 on the screen for Councillor Barker or for Councillor Wellington 02:02:05.007 --> 02:02:09.024 to confirm that's the amendment she'd like to move and for Councillor Barker 02:02:09.024 --> 02:02:13.022 to confirm that that's the amendment he wishes to second. 02:02:13.022 --> 02:02:15.010 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:02:15.010 --> 02:02:18.020 Councillor Barker, are you happy to second the amendment? 02:02:18.020 --> 02:02:20.007 CR PAUL BARKER: Yes. 02:02:20.007 --> 02:02:24.002 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Councillor Wellington, do you wish to speak to the amendment? 02:02:24.002 --> 02:02:25.022 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Thanks so much. 02:02:25.022 --> 02:02:27.019 I think it's probably reasonably clear. 02:02:27.019 --> 02:02:30.008 But I would just say to Councillors I don't believe this 02:02:30.008 --> 02:02:32.013 is anything to be frightened of. 02:02:32.013 --> 02:02:35.006 What it's basically doing is removing from the guidelines 02:02:35.006 --> 02:02:38.011 - the guidelines itself should be about what we want on nature strips, 02:02:38.011 --> 02:02:40.009 not whether or not we're going to enforce. 02:02:40.009 --> 02:02:43.021 The guidelines need to address whether or not you can have gravel and 02:02:43.021 --> 02:02:45.019 whether or not you can have plants. 02:02:45.019 --> 02:02:50.023 Enforcement is an issue for the community amenity local law. 02:02:50.023 --> 02:02:52.010 There is nothing 02:02:52.010 --> 02:02:56.006 - we could in the community amenity local law adopt the guidelines 02:02:56.006 --> 02:03:01.024 and put a proviso that we won't enforce prior to a certain date. 02:03:01.024 --> 02:03:05.015 I think legally we wouldn't have a right to enforce retrospectively anyway. 02:03:05.015 --> 02:03:08.022 People can't be expected to comply with things that don't apply to them 02:03:08.022 --> 02:03:10.009 at the time. 02:03:10.009 --> 02:03:11.022 So I think it's low risk. 02:03:11.022 --> 02:03:17.003 I think it is sensible to keep our options open, and particularly 02:03:17.003 --> 02:03:20.024 because I think the wording is currently very ambiguous and end up 02:03:20.024 --> 02:03:26.016 with problems because it's not clear when we're talking about retrospective, 02:03:26.016 --> 02:03:32.015 we're not addressing the date from which retrospectively applies. 02:03:32.015 --> 02:03:37.000 So I think it's difficult in its current format. 02:03:37.000 --> 02:03:38.019 It's going to cause problems. 02:03:38.019 --> 02:03:43.000 Removing it will not cause problems and will make the policy clearer. 02:03:43.000 --> 02:03:45.019 And I thank Councillor Barker for seconding the amendment. 02:03:45.019 --> 02:03:47.007 Thank you. 02:03:49.007 --> 02:03:51.020 CR PAUL BARKER: Mayor, I just have a question, if I may. 02:03:51.020 --> 02:03:53.007 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Yes. 02:03:53.007 --> 02:03:58.017 CR PAUL BARKER: As far as the date of this policy being applicable, 02:03:58.017 --> 02:04:03.001 I would assume it would be today's date once it's passed the meeting, if it 02:04:03.001 --> 02:04:06.015 is passed, that is the date it becomes applicable. 02:04:06.015 --> 02:04:09.007 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: That would be my understanding, yes. 02:04:09.007 --> 02:04:12.000 Councillor Barker, did you wish to speak to the amendment? 02:04:12.000 --> 02:04:13.013 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Mayor 02:04:13.013 --> 02:04:15.000 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Pattison. 02:04:15.000 --> 02:04:18.017 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: I'm sorry, can I please say something? 02:04:18.017 --> 02:04:20.023 I didn't use my full time. 02:04:20.023 --> 02:04:25.007 But just in relation to that, the issue will arrive in the future when we discover 02:04:25.007 --> 02:04:30.020 that somebody has a nature strip which does not comply with the policy 02:04:30.020 --> 02:04:35.021 and the question at that point would be what does retrospective application 02:04:35.021 --> 02:04:37.011 of the policy mean at that point. 02:04:37.011 --> 02:04:41.011 So I think it is going to be a difficult clause. 02:04:44.013 --> 02:04:46.000 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:04:46.000 --> 02:04:49.011 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: It doesn't really make sense to have (inaudible). 02:04:49.011 --> 02:04:51.018 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Yes, Councillor Stapleton. 02:04:51.018 --> 02:04:55.007 CR LIBBY STAPLETON: My recollection from one of the briefings was that 02:04:55.007 --> 02:04:59.019 we did seek legal advice of the policy and guidelines. 02:04:59.019 --> 02:05:01.006 Can I just 02:05:01.006 --> 02:05:03.004 - is that correct, and what the advice was. 02:05:03.004 --> 02:05:06.000 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: I'll put that through to our CEO, please. 02:05:06.000 --> 02:05:08.009 ROBYN SEYMOUR: Thank you, Councillor Stapleton. 02:05:08.009 --> 02:05:12.005 I might refer that to our General Manager of Place Making and Environment to respond 02:05:12.005 --> 02:05:13.018 to. 02:05:13.018 --> 02:05:18.017 CHRIS PIKE: Yes, through you, Mayor, we did seek legal advice, 02:05:18.017 --> 02:05:23.023 but I don't have that before me right now and so I'm 02:05:23.023 --> 02:05:26.014 going to be guessing if I try to fill in the blanks in terms 02:05:26.014 --> 02:05:32.001 of exactly what it told us, but we were providing it so as 02:05:32.001 --> 02:05:37.018 to position ourselves to have something that was workable and, 02:05:37.018 --> 02:05:41.015 if necessary, enforceable and found the feedback helpful 02:05:41.015 --> 02:05:43.020 and incorporated it where it was provided. 02:05:43.020 --> 02:05:45.019 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: And just to add to that 02:05:45.019 --> 02:05:47.007 - sorry, Councillor Wellington 02:05:47.007 --> 02:05:53.016 - at the briefings we were advised that aerial photos are taken and 02:05:53.016 --> 02:05:56.020 they have recently been taken for the assessment for rating 02:05:56.020 --> 02:06:01.005 and the assessment of property values and that that would be the basis utilised 02:06:01.005 --> 02:06:05.003 around understanding retrospective nature strips, et cetera, because that's 02:06:05.003 --> 02:06:09.020 across the shire and that was from my recollection of those briefings 02:06:09.020 --> 02:06:16.003 and in relation to the legal avenues around retrospective rectification 02:06:16.003 --> 02:06:18.002 of nature strips, and the like. 02:06:18.002 --> 02:06:19.022 We'll now move on to Councillor Barker. 02:06:19.022 --> 02:06:21.016 Did you wish to speak to the amendment? 02:06:21.016 --> 02:06:23.011 CR PAUL BARKER: No, it just makes sense. 02:06:23.011 --> 02:06:26.005 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Does any other Councillor wish to speak 02:06:26.005 --> 02:06:27.018 to the amendment? 02:06:27.018 --> 02:06:29.005 Councillor Hodge? 02:06:29.005 --> 02:06:30.020 CR HODGE: I won't be supporting it. 02:06:30.020 --> 02:06:33.001 I'm just foreshadowing go back to the original. 02:06:33.001 --> 02:06:34.013 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:06:34.013 --> 02:06:36.008 We'll now put the amendment to the vote. 02:06:36.008 --> 02:06:37.021 All those 02:06:37.021 --> 02:06:40.024 - so just to clarify, all those in favour of moving to the amendment, 02:06:40.024 --> 02:06:42.011 please raise your hand. 02:06:42.011 --> 02:06:43.024 That's Councillor 02:06:43.024 --> 02:06:45.011 - and all those opposed? 02:06:45.011 --> 02:06:47.002 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Sorry, can I 02:06:47.002 --> 02:06:50.018 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: The amendment lapses and we move back to the substantive. 02:06:50.018 --> 02:06:53.021 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Can I ask what the vote was, Mayor Stapleton 02:06:53.021 --> 02:06:55.008 - I mean Pattison. 02:06:55.008 --> 02:06:56.021 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Pattison. 02:06:56.021 --> 02:06:59.018 It was two for the amendment and seven opposing the amendment. 02:06:59.018 --> 02:07:01.008 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Thank you. 02:07:01.008 --> 02:07:04.012 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: We will now vote on the nature strip policy as per 02:07:04.012 --> 02:07:07.010 - sorry, Councillor Gazzard, did you have any closing remarks? 02:07:07.010 --> 02:07:08.023 CR KATE GAZZARD: Thank you. 02:07:08.023 --> 02:07:10.010 Sorry for the confusion. 02:07:10.010 --> 02:07:14.016 I do think that removing that phrase doesn't necessarily clear it 02:07:14.016 --> 02:07:22.009 up given the sentence before it and my concern is that not only applies 02:07:22.009 --> 02:07:24.014 to gravel nature strips, but that also applies 02:07:24.014 --> 02:07:28.008 to existing vegetation and wildlife. 02:07:28.008 --> 02:07:30.011 So I'm happy that 02:07:30.011 --> 02:07:34.024 - as a first guideline I think this policy is a good one, so yes, happy 02:07:37.019 --> 02:07:39.006 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:07:39.006 --> 02:07:40.022 We'll now put the motion to the vote. 02:07:40.022 --> 02:07:42.022 All those in favour. 02:07:42.022 --> 02:07:44.024 All those opposed. 02:07:44.024 --> 02:07:46.011 And the motion is carried. 02:07:49.010 --> 02:07:52.024 Given the time and it's now 8.08 and so Councillors, 02:07:52.024 --> 02:07:55.012 we have been running through the agenda now for two 02:07:55.012 --> 02:07:58.018 and a bit hours, so we'll have a short break. 02:07:58.018 --> 02:08:01.019 I know ask for a motion to adjourn the meeting. 02:08:01.019 --> 02:08:04.013 Councillor Bodsworth, and seconded by Councillor Barker. 02:08:04.013 --> 02:08:06.001 All those in favour. 02:08:06.001 --> 02:08:09.002 And the motion is carried. 02:08:09.002 --> 02:08:12.016 And we will be returning at 8.20. 02:08:15.008 --> 02:08:16.021 Thank you. 02:08:16.021 --> 02:08:21.023 (Short break) MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Welcome back, those of you, 02:08:21.023 --> 02:08:23.013 for our Council meeting tonight. 02:08:23.013 --> 02:08:26.014 I just will seek a motion to resume standing orders. 02:08:26.014 --> 02:08:29.001 Councillor Allen, and seconded by Councillor Hodge. 02:08:29.001 --> 02:08:31.010 All those in favour. 02:08:31.010 --> 02:08:33.000 And the motion is carried. 02:08:33.000 --> 02:08:38.012 We'll now kick straight off into 4.6, COVID Recovery Assistance Program Report. 02:08:38.012 --> 02:08:41.012 This item presents Council with the final report on the outcomes 02:08:41.012 --> 02:08:45.013 of projects awarded under the COVID-19 Recovery Assistance Grant Program. 02:08:45.013 --> 02:08:47.000 Do I have a mover of a motion? 02:08:47.000 --> 02:08:48.013 Councillor Allen. 02:08:48.013 --> 02:08:50.000 And a seconder? 02:08:50.000 --> 02:08:51.013 Councillor Hodge. 02:08:51.013 --> 02:08:54.004 Councillor Allen, I'm assuming that's as per the motion? 02:08:54.004 --> 02:08:56.021 CR GARY ALLEN: As per the recommendation, yes, thank you. 02:08:56.021 --> 02:09:00.019 Included in tonight's meeting papers is an extremely comprehensive report 02:09:00.019 --> 02:09:05.007 about the COVID Recovery Assistance Grants and I encourage residents to read 02:09:05.007 --> 02:09:10.003 about the 36 grants and the 9 Council programs enabled 02:09:10.003 --> 02:09:12.009 through this initiative. 02:09:12.009 --> 02:09:15.010 I wish to congratulate the previous Council 02:09:15.010 --> 02:09:21.015 for their foresight to envisage and resource this initiative and 02:09:21.015 --> 02:09:26.009 to the officers who were tasked with the job of implementation. 02:09:26.009 --> 02:09:31.015 We were all uncertain about the timeframe and the future individual 02:09:31.015 --> 02:09:34.004 and community impacts of the pandemic. 02:09:36.016 --> 02:09:39.005 55% of the package supported local businesses 02:09:39.005 --> 02:09:44.014 and 45% was allocated to community-based initiatives. 02:09:44.014 --> 02:09:50.003 The Surf Coast Shire was thus providing real and timely capacity building 02:09:50.003 --> 02:09:53.010 at a time of reduced confidence. 02:09:53.010 --> 02:09:57.020 The major determinant of economic activity and growth is the level of business 02:09:57.020 --> 02:10:01.001 and consumer confidence. 02:10:01.001 --> 02:10:06.003 Initiatives were varied, ranging from farm gate art, adopt a worker, 02:10:06.003 --> 02:10:11.012 to a large freezer for Torquay food aid to support an ostrich farm that lost its 02:10:11.012 --> 02:10:15.009 main source of income from tourism and the Council was prepared 02:10:15.009 --> 02:10:21.000 to forgo income by reducing and staging fees and charges. 02:10:21.000 --> 02:10:25.014 I am particularly pleased that $100,000 was allocated 02:10:25.014 --> 02:10:28.022 to the Creative Communities Fund. 02:10:28.022 --> 02:10:34.001 Economic rationalists may roll their eyes, but this allocation recognises 02:10:34.001 --> 02:10:38.008 the importance of the non-tangible benefits of the arts 02:10:38.008 --> 02:10:44.010 to individual emotional health as well as to the artists whose income 02:10:44.010 --> 02:10:48.004 and job security is so often overlooked. 02:10:48.004 --> 02:10:51.014 A very big well done to all concerned. 02:10:51.014 --> 02:10:56.016 This is a comprehensive report on a targeted and compassionate program. 02:10:56.016 --> 02:10:58.017 Thank you. 02:10:58.017 --> 02:11:00.004 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:11:00.004 --> 02:11:02.001 Councillor Hodge, did you wish to speak? 02:11:02.001 --> 02:11:03.018 CR ROSE HODGE: Yes, thank you, Mayor. 02:11:03.018 --> 02:11:08.009 When the Council of 2016 and 20 were faced with never before a situation such 02:11:08.009 --> 02:11:13.006 as COVID and after much discussion, I think it was in May 2020 we placed 02:11:13.006 --> 02:11:16.023 the money, nearly $1 million, to help combat any unforeseeable impacts 02:11:16.023 --> 02:11:18.014 on our community. 02:11:18.014 --> 02:11:24.022 The impacts were on personal, community, regional, state and national levels. 02:11:24.022 --> 02:11:30.003 We were trying to do something in such a confused time in our lives. 02:11:30.003 --> 02:11:33.023 With lockdowns, we had challenges in economic, physical and mental health 02:11:33.023 --> 02:11:36.012 and especially social connections. 02:11:36.012 --> 02:11:40.004 There are many statistics in the comprehensive report that 02:11:40.004 --> 02:11:42.017 is well worth a read, but we did lose 02:11:42.017 --> 02:11:48.001 - in Surf Coast, we had 52.9% of businesses apply for JobSeeker 02:11:48.001 --> 02:11:51.015 and a loss of over $190 million in tourism. 02:11:51.015 --> 02:11:56.005 One of the principles was lead initiatives and support others. 02:11:56.005 --> 02:11:59.023 Council gave the officers the ability to quickly assess 02:11:59.023 --> 02:12:04.014 and determine applications into the grants, eliminating wait times 02:12:04.014 --> 02:12:07.009 for the monthly Council meetings. 02:12:07.009 --> 02:12:12.007 The report comprehensively shows where and how and what the outcomes were 02:12:12.007 --> 02:12:14.021 with every successful applicant. 02:12:14.021 --> 02:12:17.021 Just to mention a few, the feed me Surf Coast, which 02:12:17.021 --> 02:12:20.003 is such an important part of our community now 02:12:20.003 --> 02:12:25.001 - the food parcels went from 30 to 150 and meals increased from 90 to 520. 02:12:25.001 --> 02:12:30.014 32 volunteers were trained with the grants that we gave them 02:12:30.014 --> 02:12:35.009 and the Lions certainly came and helped and they were a fantastic volunteer help. 02:12:35.009 --> 02:12:40.007 The community houses also led the way too, with Let's Go Outside initiatives 02:12:40.007 --> 02:12:42.022 and getting people outside in a safe distance, 02:12:42.022 --> 02:12:45.000 but still socially connected. 02:12:45.000 --> 02:12:48.003 The mental health projects were also supported and the youth. 02:12:50.007 --> 02:12:54.017 Initiatives were all across the shire and the rapid response ones were 02:12:54.017 --> 02:13:00.010 particularly terrific that the officers could get on this very quickly and to help 02:13:00.010 --> 02:13:02.022 out with community groups as Adopt a Worker, 02:13:02.022 --> 02:13:06.009 at Lorne the toy library, the sensory garden at Winchelsea, 02:13:06.009 --> 02:13:10.024 bike hubs, and a full list of all this is in the report. 02:13:10.024 --> 02:13:14.020 And the outcomes, as you will read, were all positive. 02:13:14.020 --> 02:13:19.001 Overall, the COVID-19 Recovery Assistance Grants Program were 02:13:19.001 --> 02:13:23.017 underpinned by our wonderful community and the countless volunteers who wanted 02:13:23.017 --> 02:13:27.003 to make a difference in a challenging time 02:13:27.003 --> 02:13:32.019 It led to incredible projects where people gained skills and found new legacies 02:13:32.019 --> 02:13:37.015 and I too would sincerely like to thank the staff that put so much 02:13:37.015 --> 02:13:40.024 of their lives into this report. 02:13:40.024 --> 02:13:45.017 I don't want to miss out anyone, but special mention to Gretchen, Matt, 02:13:45.017 --> 02:13:47.005 Simon. 02:13:47.005 --> 02:13:49.017 I know there are others, so please pass on to the teams, 02:13:49.017 --> 02:13:52.024 but anyone reading that report will see that that was money really well 02:13:52.024 --> 02:13:54.012 spent. 02:13:54.012 --> 02:13:57.013 Sometimes, you know, people are "you shouldn't be doing grants". 02:13:57.013 --> 02:13:59.015 Well, if anyone complains about this giving 02:13:59.015 --> 02:14:03.000 to the outcomes that we received, especially from Feed Me and 02:14:03.000 --> 02:14:06.009 all those other ones, it was a wonderful initiative 02:14:06.009 --> 02:14:10.024 and I thank the past Council, but this Council too for continuing it 02:14:10.024 --> 02:14:14.014 because it was so important to our community and I think we're better 02:14:14.014 --> 02:14:17.017 for it, we're stronger for it, and hopefully nothing like this 02:14:17.017 --> 02:14:20.005 will happen again, but we know we've got the resources 02:14:20.005 --> 02:14:21.017 to do it. 02:14:21.017 --> 02:14:24.000 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: You've currently gone over. 02:14:24.000 --> 02:14:25.012 Thank you. 02:14:25.012 --> 02:14:27.007 Do any other Councillors wish to speak? 02:14:27.007 --> 02:14:29.005 Thanks for the clapping. 02:14:29.005 --> 02:14:30.018 Councillor Wellington? 02:14:33.015 --> 02:14:35.012 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Thanks very much. 02:14:35.012 --> 02:14:38.012 Look, there's a huge report and it's some really fantastic stuff 02:14:38.012 --> 02:14:40.000 that was done with these grants. 02:14:40.000 --> 02:14:41.012 It was a huge amount of money. 02:14:41.012 --> 02:14:43.008 It does have actually quite a 02:14:43.008 --> 02:14:51.007 - there's quite a focus on outcomes here, although some of them weren't necessarily 02:14:51.007 --> 02:14:53.022 - you know, they were one-off kind of things and it's hard 02:14:53.022 --> 02:15:01.017 to see what sustainable difference, if you like, they made. 02:15:01.017 --> 02:15:04.007 But it was important to get community together 02:15:04.007 --> 02:15:07.009 at various times, get back together and to support certain sectors 02:15:07.009 --> 02:15:08.022 of the community. 02:15:08.022 --> 02:15:11.018 I have two I wanted to comment on in particular, though. 02:15:11.018 --> 02:15:14.018 One is the Summer Shuttle program, Torquay/Jan Juc, 02:15:14.018 --> 02:15:19.018 and I think that's the one that was implemented directly after the elections 02:15:19.018 --> 02:15:25.023 of 2020 and I think it was in relation to the current proposal that we have 02:15:25.023 --> 02:15:31.021 a free shuttle bus service around Torquay and Jan Juc and there's a whole 02:15:31.021 --> 02:15:34.007 - we ran that and it cost quite a lot of money, $48,000. 02:15:37.014 --> 02:15:41.004 The outcomes are reported as being extremely positive 02:15:41.004 --> 02:15:44.017 - people were employed, the initiatives were carbon neutral, 02:15:44.017 --> 02:15:47.024 you know, just different details about the people who rode on it, 02:15:47.024 --> 02:15:50.005 but the reality of that 02:15:50.005 --> 02:15:53.002 - and this is really an issue about the way we report, as opposed 02:15:53.002 --> 02:15:55.022 to an issue about whether we should have funded that shuttle 02:15:55.022 --> 02:15:57.009 bus. 02:15:57.009 --> 02:16:00.018 I don't think I supported it at the time, but that's not to say it was wrong 02:16:00.018 --> 02:16:04.018 for Councillors to support it, but I would like a more objective outcome report 02:16:04.018 --> 02:16:09.003 on that and the reality was that the cost per person was unbelievably high. 02:16:09.003 --> 02:16:12.011 There was very few people that took it up. 02:16:12.011 --> 02:16:16.001 I would like that to be put down as a big tick, which it seems to be 02:16:16.001 --> 02:16:17.014 at the moment. 02:16:17.014 --> 02:16:25.013 It says that objectives (inaudible) I don't know what the objectives were, 02:16:29.020 --> 02:16:35.011 but there's certainly people used (inaudible) did not make this 02:16:35.011 --> 02:16:36.023 a successful program. 02:16:36.023 --> 02:16:41.009 I think we need to just recognise that and we don't want to be sort of conveying 02:16:41.009 --> 02:16:45.003 to people that it was very successful when it actually, in my view, was not. 02:16:45.003 --> 02:16:47.017 The other thing is just in relation to the (inaudible). 02:16:50.019 --> 02:16:53.010 I would make the comment there was a very small uptake. 02:16:53.010 --> 02:16:56.005 I can't really tell the numbers from the report, 02:16:56.005 --> 02:16:59.006 but there was a very small uptake from the non-Torquay 02:16:59.006 --> 02:17:00.022 areas of the shire. 02:17:00.022 --> 02:17:05.018 So what we've got there, in my view, is probably a reasonably good view 02:17:05.018 --> 02:17:07.023 about what the youth of Torquay (inaudible) 02:17:07.023 --> 02:17:12.018 but I don't think that that should be being relied on in relation to the views 02:17:12.018 --> 02:17:14.023 of the youth around the other parts of the shire. 02:17:14.023 --> 02:17:16.016 So I think 02:17:16.016 --> 02:17:19.022 - personally I'd like to see (inaudible) statistician engaged 02:17:19.022 --> 02:17:22.016 by this Council because we're increasingly doing surveys 02:17:22.016 --> 02:17:26.000 and I think sometimes we rely on results in a way that we shouldn't 02:17:26.000 --> 02:17:31.014 and it can be misleading in terms of future decision making. 02:17:31.014 --> 02:17:34.014 So overall I think there were some good projects in this, 02:17:34.014 --> 02:17:36.013 there were some that weren't so successful 02:17:36.013 --> 02:17:39.004 We need to be clear about what was not successful as well 02:17:39.004 --> 02:17:44.023 as what was and I'm happy to see the report and to note what came 02:17:44.023 --> 02:17:46.011 out of it. 02:17:46.011 --> 02:17:48.013 Thank you. 02:17:48.013 --> 02:17:52.002 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Councillor Allen, did you have any closing statements? 02:17:52.002 --> 02:17:53.014 CR GARY ALLEN: No thanks. 02:17:53.014 --> 02:17:56.013 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Councillor Barker, did you have something 02:17:56.013 --> 02:17:58.003 - you wanted to speak to the motion? 02:17:58.003 --> 02:17:59.015 CR PAUL BARKER: Thank you. 02:17:59.015 --> 02:18:02.016 I'm happy to support the motion, but only once in this whole agenda 02:18:02.016 --> 02:18:05.009 is return on investment mentioned. 02:18:05.009 --> 02:18:07.019 Any time that we're spending other people's money, 02:18:07.019 --> 02:18:12.003 it's essential that that money spent delivers a positive need 02:18:12.003 --> 02:18:13.015 for the community. 02:18:13.015 --> 02:18:15.018 Now, that's going to be subjective depending 02:18:15.018 --> 02:18:20.006 on the individual, but a million dollars is a hell of a lot of money. 02:18:20.006 --> 02:18:26.017 And even though it was $924,711, that's still a hell of a lot of money. 02:18:26.017 --> 02:18:32.001 And as Councillor Wellington mentioned, to gloss over the spend 02:18:32.001 --> 02:18:38.007 on certain elements and not be critical is a disservice to 02:18:38.007 --> 02:18:41.017 all those people in the community that are working hard to pay their rates. 02:18:41.017 --> 02:18:46.023 So I hope it serves as a lesson for all of us that the next time government claims 02:18:46.023 --> 02:18:51.004 there's an emergency and wants to pump out ratepayer or taxpayer funds, 02:18:51.004 --> 02:18:57.001 take a moment, take a day, take two days, a week, a month, just as long as you need 02:18:57.001 --> 02:19:01.016 to consider what are the long-term ramifications of significant spending. 02:19:01.016 --> 02:19:04.013 Governments have a habit of breaking your leg, 02:19:04.013 --> 02:19:08.015 stealing your wallet, giving you crutches and then expecting you to be happy. 02:19:08.015 --> 02:19:12.004 There's always going to be an emergency that governments can claim they need 02:19:12.004 --> 02:19:17.001 to do extraordinary measures, but just remember the next time it happens 02:19:17.001 --> 02:19:23.016 , don't need to lose your collective minds and blow money on unnecessary projects 02:19:23.016 --> 02:19:26.019 - one that I supported, being that shuttle bus, 02:19:26.019 --> 02:19:30.018 and in hindsight it's probably one of the worst decisions I've made, 02:19:30.018 --> 02:19:33.017 but I learnt from it and I'll definitely be more critical 02:19:33.017 --> 02:19:35.008 on wasteful spending in the future. 02:19:37.011 --> 02:19:38.023 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:19:38.023 --> 02:19:40.019 Councillor Allen, any closing remarks? 02:19:40.019 --> 02:19:43.008 CR GARY ALLEN: Just simply to say that often assessment 02:19:43.008 --> 02:19:47.013 of the success or otherwise of programs is very much in the eye of the beholder 02:19:47.013 --> 02:19:50.010 and it does depend on the values and the angle 02:19:50.010 --> 02:19:52.015 from which you approach things. 02:19:52.015 --> 02:20:00.018 Particularly with non-tangible programs, it's very hard, very hard to quantify it. 02:20:00.018 --> 02:20:06.005 But overall, I'm just so delighted with the positive result 02:20:06.005 --> 02:20:10.017 of the program and again, congratulate all concerned. 02:20:10.017 --> 02:20:12.004 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:20:12.004 --> 02:20:13.020 We'll now put the motion to the vote. 02:20:13.020 --> 02:20:15.024 All those in favour. 02:20:15.024 --> 02:20:17.011 And the motion is carried. 02:20:22.019 --> 02:20:26.001 We now move on to 4.7, Reviewing the Adopted Strategy Cash 02:20:26.001 --> 02:20:28.003 Reserve and program of projects. 02:20:28.003 --> 02:20:31.004 This report is presented to Council following a review which has 02:20:31.004 --> 02:20:34.016 identified that some funds held in the Adopted Strategy Reserve 02:20:34.016 --> 02:20:37.018 and funds allocated to particular projects are no longer 02:20:37.018 --> 02:20:39.005 required. 02:20:39.005 --> 02:20:42.009 The recommendation before us tonight seeks a decision from Council 02:20:42.009 --> 02:20:47.019 to allocate these funds, totalling $1,048,693, 02:20:47.019 --> 02:20:50.009 to the Surf Coast Aquatic and Health Centre project. 02:20:50.009 --> 02:20:52.021 Do I have a mover? 02:20:52.021 --> 02:20:54.008 Councillor Stapleton. 02:20:54.008 --> 02:20:55.021 As per the recommendation? 02:20:55.021 --> 02:20:57.020 CR LIBBY STAPLETON: Yes, thank you, Mayor. 02:20:57.020 --> 02:20:59.011 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: And a seconder? 02:20:59.011 --> 02:21:00.023 Councillor Schonfelder. 02:21:00.023 --> 02:21:02.011 And would you like to speak? 02:21:02.011 --> 02:21:04.004 CR LIBBY STAPLETON: I will, thank you. 02:21:04.004 --> 02:21:06.021 So as we know, there's currently a $3.5 million shortfall 02:21:06.021 --> 02:21:10.015 in funding for the Surf Coast Aquatic and Health Centre and this motion provides 02:21:10.015 --> 02:21:14.014 an opportunity for Council to allocate a little over $1 million 02:21:14.014 --> 02:21:19.005 from the Adopted Strategy Reserve and from Council's program of projects 02:21:19.005 --> 02:21:22.002 to help meet some of this shortfall. 02:21:22.002 --> 02:21:25.009 Just by way of strategy, the Adopted Strategy Reserve is one 02:21:25.009 --> 02:21:29.016 of 15 cash reserves that hold funds for specific purposes determined 02:21:29.016 --> 02:21:32.019 by Council and when strategies are approved 02:21:32.019 --> 02:21:37.003 by Council, funds for projects related to that strategy are held in the Adopted 02:21:37.003 --> 02:21:41.008 Strategy Reserve until the project is considered live. 02:21:41.008 --> 02:21:45.021 In some instances, as priorities shift or circumstances 02:21:45.021 --> 02:21:50.004 change, cash may end up sitting in this reserve for many years awaiting 02:21:50.004 --> 02:21:52.017 for a project to start. 02:21:52.017 --> 02:21:55.022 Officers have recently reviewed the projects that are sitting 02:21:55.022 --> 02:22:00.000 in the Adopted Strategy Reserve to determine whether we are holding cash 02:22:00.000 --> 02:22:04.007 in that reserve that due to timing of projects, or for other reasons, 02:22:04.007 --> 02:22:07.017 may be better allocated to a higher priority, which 02:22:07.017 --> 02:22:10.015 in this instance it would be for the Surf Coast Aquatic 02:22:10.015 --> 02:22:12.002 and Health Centre. 02:22:12.002 --> 02:22:15.016 Two projects that I'll just highlight in particular offer an opportunity 02:22:15.016 --> 02:22:20.003 to transfer more than $700,000 to the pool budget. 02:22:20.003 --> 02:22:24.003 One is the Torquay Town Centre project, which currently has an allocation 02:22:24.003 --> 02:22:28.002 of $825,000 against it. 02:22:28.002 --> 02:22:33.019 It is proposed that $225,000 of this is retained in the Adopted Strategy 02:22:33.019 --> 02:22:38.013 Reserve, which would be used to develop a public domain plan 02:22:38.013 --> 02:22:40.010 for the Torquay Town Centre. 02:22:40.010 --> 02:22:44.007 Now, given that this project has been on Council's advocacy list for a number 02:22:44.007 --> 02:22:47.023 of years and my understanding is that it's gained very little traction 02:22:47.023 --> 02:22:52.018 in that time, it does make sense to use that money to develop a plan 02:22:52.018 --> 02:22:57.001 to cost and scope the work that's actually recommended in the urban design framework, 02:22:57.001 --> 02:23:00.011 which the Torquay Town Centre project sits under, 02:23:00.011 --> 02:23:03.007 so that the projects are shovel ready and much better placed 02:23:03.007 --> 02:23:05.010 to attract future funding. 02:23:05.010 --> 02:23:09.013 The remaining $600,000 from this allocation would be reallocated 02:23:09.013 --> 02:23:11.016 to the Surf Coast Aquatic Centre. 02:23:11.016 --> 02:23:16.016 The second significant project nominated to have funds reallocated from 02:23:16.016 --> 02:23:18.003 is Race Torquay. 02:23:18.003 --> 02:23:22.005 There is more than $160,000 sitting in the Adopted Strategy Reserve 02:23:22.005 --> 02:23:23.018 for this event. 02:23:23.018 --> 02:23:28.000 Yet it hasn't been held since 2020 and event organisers have given no 02:23:28.000 --> 02:23:31.024 commitment to Council that this event will occur in future years. 02:23:31.024 --> 02:23:35.001 So it makes sense to allocate these funds to a project which 02:23:35.001 --> 02:23:38.011 is currently a much higher priority. 02:23:38.011 --> 02:23:42.011 Just quickly, officers also reviewed a number of projects on its program 02:23:42.011 --> 02:23:47.001 of projects and is able to reallocate more than $250,000 02:23:47.001 --> 02:23:50.009 from projects that are either concluded or no longer required. 02:23:50.009 --> 02:23:54.011 So essentially we have a range of projects here that are either concluded 02:23:54.011 --> 02:23:57.020 , on hold or unlikely to happen any time soon 02:23:57.020 --> 02:24:01.007 and it makes good sense to reallocate that money to a project that 02:24:01.007 --> 02:24:04.007 is a current priority and needs more funds to see it through. 02:24:04.007 --> 02:24:08.007 I hope my fellow Councillors agree and that Council can make better use of 02:24:08.007 --> 02:24:12.011 more than $1 million currently sitting in reserves awaiting a future. 02:24:12.011 --> 02:24:14.018 Thank you. 02:24:14.018 --> 02:24:16.005 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:24:16.005 --> 02:24:17.018 Councillor Schonfelder? 02:24:17.018 --> 02:24:19.005 No? 02:24:19.005 --> 02:24:21.005 Would any other Councillors like to speak? 02:24:21.005 --> 02:24:22.017 Councillor Allen. 02:24:22.017 --> 02:24:24.005 CR GARY ALLEN: Thanks, Mayor. 02:24:24.005 --> 02:24:29.022 Look, just to say I'm keen that of the $3.57 million shortfall that 02:24:29.022 --> 02:24:37.007 we don't obviously increase borrowings by a cent, and this approach to me I'm 02:24:37.007 --> 02:24:42.011 in favour of because it's taking from Peter to pay Peter. 02:24:42.011 --> 02:24:45.012 So in other words, we're taking from Torquay projects 02:24:45.012 --> 02:24:47.020 to fund a project that is essentially going 02:24:47.020 --> 02:24:52.001 to benefit the Torquay industry community. 02:24:52.001 --> 02:24:57.009 We won't know until we see the result of the tender process which we agreed 02:24:57.009 --> 02:25:00.019 to last month to test the financial viability and 02:25:00.019 --> 02:25:04.018 whether we can afford to proceed with the pool, but we must be 02:25:04.018 --> 02:25:10.009 - this motion makes us prepared in case the tenders do come 02:25:10.009 --> 02:25:16.023 within the guidelines to move ahead without borrowing and therefore I'm 02:25:16.023 --> 02:25:21.017 in favour of having this strategy in case we need to fund the pool 02:25:21.017 --> 02:25:23.005 in that sense. 02:25:23.005 --> 02:25:24.017 Thank you. 02:25:24.017 --> 02:25:26.005 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:25:26.005 --> 02:25:28.004 Councillor Wellington? 02:25:28.004 --> 02:25:29.019 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Thank you. 02:25:29.019 --> 02:25:32.012 I won't be supporting this because I don't support the pool 02:25:32.012 --> 02:25:36.021 - or I don't support an aquatic centre costing almost $50 million being built. 02:25:36.021 --> 02:25:40.014 I think that we're living beyond our means, very much 02:25:40.014 --> 02:25:42.002 beyond our means. 02:25:42.002 --> 02:25:44.019 There's already a lot of Council money allocated towards 02:25:44.019 --> 02:25:48.007 that $46 million or $47 million that we've got. 02:25:48.007 --> 02:25:51.007 I suspect what we'll do is we'll find (inaudible) all 02:25:53.008 --> 02:25:56.017 of a sudden we'll have the 46.8, but that million is at the cost 02:25:56.017 --> 02:25:59.008 of other priorities as well and we've got 02:25:59.008 --> 02:26:03.010 - analysis of where we need a million dollars 02:26:03.010 --> 02:26:04.023 at the moment. 02:26:04.023 --> 02:26:09.023 Do we need it in a $47 million aquatic centre or do we need it in roads 02:26:09.023 --> 02:26:15.017 and bridges and other infrastructure where we've got a massive asset gap? 02:26:15.017 --> 02:26:19.021 We're going to create a (inaudible) really aren't able 02:26:19.021 --> 02:26:22.021 to keep up with the assets we've got. 02:26:22.021 --> 02:26:25.000 So I feel very 02:26:25.000 --> 02:26:29.019 - and particularly to create an asset which is going to have an ongoing drain 02:26:29.019 --> 02:26:34.021 on council and ratepayer funds every year for the foreseeable future. 02:26:34.021 --> 02:26:37.001 So I just don't support it. 02:26:37.001 --> 02:26:39.013 It's convenient to find $1 million, that's nice, 02:26:39.013 --> 02:26:45.023 but I think it would be much more responsible to look at priorities 02:26:45.023 --> 02:26:53.019 across the shire and determine whether a $47 million pool 02:26:53.019 --> 02:26:55.007 is really a priority. 02:26:55.007 --> 02:27:01.000 To me it's not, so I won't be supporting it. 02:27:01.000 --> 02:27:02.021 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Councillor Barker? 02:27:02.021 --> 02:27:04.009 CR PAUL BARKER: Thanks, Mayor. 02:27:04.009 --> 02:27:06.003 Spending other people's money is fun. 02:27:06.003 --> 02:27:07.015 You don't have to work for it. 02:27:07.015 --> 02:27:09.009 You can throw it around like confetti. 02:27:09.009 --> 02:27:12.014 If it lands on an unaffordable project, it's okay, you just find money 02:27:12.014 --> 02:27:14.001 from somewhere else. 02:27:14.001 --> 02:27:15.017 Is there a need for a pool in Torquay? 02:27:15.017 --> 02:27:17.005 Yes. 02:27:17.005 --> 02:27:20.013 Do we have tens of millions of dollars of taxpayer money allocated to it? 02:27:20.013 --> 02:27:22.001 Yes. 02:27:22.001 --> 02:27:24.024 Has this stifled the development of a privately developed pool 02:27:24.024 --> 02:27:26.012 from progressing? 02:27:26.012 --> 02:27:27.024 Most likely. 02:27:27.024 --> 02:27:31.013 Who in their right mind would raise private capital when this project of ours 02:27:31.013 --> 02:27:33.000 is going ahead? 02:27:33.000 --> 02:27:34.013 No-one. 02:27:34.013 --> 02:27:37.014 Would a privately built pool be better equipped for a lower spend? 02:27:37.014 --> 02:27:39.002 I think absolutely. 02:27:41.003 --> 02:27:44.005 You do whatever you want, it's not your money, it's not mine either, 02:27:47.006 --> 02:27:49.021 but I think I'm part of the minority voice in this aspect, 02:27:49.021 --> 02:27:51.013 so vote the way you see fit. 02:27:53.019 --> 02:27:55.007 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:27:55.007 --> 02:27:57.024 Councillor Stapleton, did you have any closing remarks? 02:27:57.024 --> 02:27:59.019 CR LIBBY STAPLETON: No, thanks, Mayor. 02:27:59.019 --> 02:28:02.000 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: I put the motion to the vote. 02:28:02.000 --> 02:28:03.012 All those in favour. 02:28:03.012 --> 02:28:05.000 Opposed. 02:28:05.000 --> 02:28:07.001 And the motion is carried. 02:28:07.001 --> 02:28:08.018 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: The vote was? 02:28:08.018 --> 02:28:10.005 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: 7-2. 02:28:10.005 --> 02:28:12.002 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Thank you. 02:28:12.002 --> 02:28:17.015 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: We now move on to 4.8, Planning Permit Application 22/0427 02:28:17.015 --> 02:28:19.022 Construction of a telecommunications facility 02:28:19.022 --> 02:28:22.020 - 460 Grossmans Road Bellbrae. 02:28:22.020 --> 02:28:26.007 This report has been presented to Council to determine a position 02:28:26.007 --> 02:28:31.020 on Planning Permit Application 22/0427 for the development 02:28:31.020 --> 02:28:36.023 of a telecommunications facility at 460 Grossmans Road Bellbrae. 02:28:36.023 --> 02:28:38.011 Do I have a mover of the motion? 02:28:38.011 --> 02:28:39.023 Councillor Schonfelder 02:28:39.023 --> 02:28:41.011 - as per the recommendation? 02:28:41.011 --> 02:28:42.023 And do I have a seconder, please? 02:28:42.023 --> 02:28:44.011 Councillor Barker. 02:28:44.011 --> 02:28:45.023 Did you wish to speak? 02:28:45.023 --> 02:28:48.007 CR ADRIAN SCHONFELDER: Yes, just briefly, Mayor. 02:28:48.007 --> 02:28:50.023 I'd just like to say that the application seeks approval 02:28:50.023 --> 02:28:56.000 for the construction of a 30 metre high concrete monopole tower 02:28:56.000 --> 02:29:02.014 on top of which is to be installed an array of antennas 02:29:02.014 --> 02:29:09.015 for mobile phone communications reaching a maximum overall height of 32.5 metres 02:29:09.015 --> 02:29:12.009 above ground level. 02:29:12.009 --> 02:29:17.006 The proposed tower is to be sited in the north-east corner 02:29:17.006 --> 02:29:24.009 of the land approximately 55 metres south of an existing telecommunications tower. 02:29:24.009 --> 02:29:29.022 It will be set back 77 metres from Coombes Road, 29 metres 02:29:29.022 --> 02:29:35.015 from the east side boundary, and a minimum of 37 metres from the southern boundary. 02:29:35.015 --> 02:29:40.007 The land to be developed is currently grazing land. 02:29:40.007 --> 02:29:45.003 The tower and associated equipment cabinet and compounds 02:29:45.003 --> 02:29:52.009 will occupy 73 square metres of area. 02:29:52.009 --> 02:30:01.000 And I'd just like to add that I do use my mobile phone often and 02:30:01.000 --> 02:30:07.023 like many other members of our community, we do rely very much on telecommunications 02:30:07.023 --> 02:30:13.002 and having the most updated infrastructure possible. 02:30:13.002 --> 02:30:14.015 Thank you, Mayor. 02:30:14.015 --> 02:30:16.002 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:30:16.002 --> 02:30:18.000 Councillor Barker, did you wish to speak? 02:30:18.000 --> 02:30:19.012 CR PAUL BARKER: Thanks, Mayor. 02:30:19.012 --> 02:30:22.005 A key strategy for telecommunications infrastructure is 02:30:22.005 --> 02:30:25.008 to colocate telecommunications facilities wherever practical. 02:30:25.008 --> 02:30:28.007 Victorian planning reports note that carriers are encouraged 02:30:28.007 --> 02:30:30.009 to colocate facilities wherever practical. 02:30:30.009 --> 02:30:34.007 This provision encourages colocation where an existing structure has the capacity 02:30:34.007 --> 02:30:35.021 to cope. 02:30:35.021 --> 02:30:39.023 I'm not certain that all attempts to colocate the infrastructure in question 02:30:39.023 --> 02:30:44.008 with this existing infrastructure have been exhausted. 02:30:44.008 --> 02:30:48.018 I accept that if colocation were to occur, it would result in a taller pole 02:30:48.018 --> 02:30:50.007 at the existing site. 02:30:50.007 --> 02:30:54.007 I think this would be a preferable situation and set a precedent that 02:30:54.007 --> 02:30:57.024 all efforts must be made for colocation. 02:30:57.024 --> 02:31:00.018 Allowing this application to pass may set a precedent that 02:31:00.018 --> 02:31:03.019 will result in many more similar structures popping up 02:31:03.019 --> 02:31:05.009 around the shire. 02:31:05.009 --> 02:31:08.018 I appreciate the applicant's attempts to meet the minimum requirements 02:31:08.018 --> 02:31:10.005 laid before them. 02:31:10.005 --> 02:31:13.001 I do not like the way this development is planned to occur, 02:31:13.001 --> 02:31:17.015 though I think you should be able to do what you want with your land so long 02:31:17.015 --> 02:31:20.003 as you aren't causing harm to others, and in this light, 02:31:20.003 --> 02:31:22.011 I will be supporting the recommendation. 02:31:22.011 --> 02:31:25.008 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Would any other Councillors like to speak 02:31:25.008 --> 02:31:26.021 to the motion? 02:31:26.021 --> 02:31:28.008 Councillor Bodsworth? 02:31:28.008 --> 02:31:30.015 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: Just briefly, thanks, Mayor. 02:31:30.015 --> 02:31:34.006 I share some of Councillor Barker's misgivings. 02:31:34.006 --> 02:31:36.004 I'm happy to support the motion. 02:31:36.004 --> 02:31:40.001 I just note that I'm interested in 02:31:40.001 --> 02:31:47.005 - as a landscape architect, I'm interested in visual impact mitigation options. 02:31:47.005 --> 02:31:50.017 I drove up Coombes Road on the way to tonight's Council meeting 02:31:50.017 --> 02:31:56.009 past the site where this monopole is proposed and there's a combination 02:31:56.009 --> 02:32:01.021 of green power poles and plain grey cement existing 02:32:01.021 --> 02:32:04.015 telecommunications tower which offer an opportunity 02:32:04.015 --> 02:32:07.024 to compare the visual impact of those two different colours 02:32:07.024 --> 02:32:11.003 and I don't believe there's a substantial difference in the visual 02:32:11.003 --> 02:32:12.015 impact. 02:32:12.015 --> 02:32:16.008 But this is obviously not the last of these proposals that we're going 02:32:16.008 --> 02:32:19.023 to get, so I think it's important for us to do some 02:32:19.023 --> 02:32:24.012 - well, just to continue to stay in touch with best practice 02:32:24.012 --> 02:32:29.010 in visual impact mitigation, in electromagnetic emissions 02:32:29.010 --> 02:32:34.014 and in the other issues that were part of this consideration tonight. 02:32:34.014 --> 02:32:37.005 So, yeah, I'm happy to support the recommendation, 02:32:37.005 --> 02:32:43.002 but I think these impacts are really important and we need to do what we can 02:32:43.002 --> 02:32:45.017 to mitigate them on an ongoing basis. 02:32:45.017 --> 02:32:47.009 Thanks. 02:32:47.009 --> 02:32:48.021 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:32:48.021 --> 02:32:50.009 Councillor Wellington? 02:32:50.009 --> 02:32:53.009 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Yes, can I just ask a couple of questions? 02:32:53.009 --> 02:32:59.021 On the east of that site at 460 there's a parcel of land which 02:32:59.021 --> 02:33:02.011 is also (inaudible) on the corner of Coombes Road 02:33:02.011 --> 02:33:06.016 and (inaudible) Road on the south-west corner. 02:33:06.016 --> 02:33:09.009 I just wonder if somebody could tell me 02:33:09.009 --> 02:33:15.016 - as I understand it, the pole is proposed to be located in the north-east corner 02:33:15.016 --> 02:33:19.007 of the subject land and then there's another parcel of land 02:33:19.007 --> 02:33:24.001 next to it and another one south of that adjacent to the public land 02:33:24.001 --> 02:33:26.020 and I just wondered if I can be told the 02:33:26.020 --> 02:33:30.007 - I was trying to find the size of those blocks and 02:33:30.007 --> 02:33:32.003 whether or not they've got homes on them. 02:33:35.016 --> 02:33:39.005 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: I'll pass that through to you, CEO. 02:33:39.005 --> 02:33:44.016 ROBYN SEYMOUR: Councillor Wellington, I can't give you the size of those blocks 02:33:44.016 --> 02:33:46.003 at this point. 02:33:46.003 --> 02:33:50.013 In terms of whether they've got homes on them, to be honest, 02:33:50.013 --> 02:33:54.009 I'm not actually clear which blocks you're talking about. 02:33:54.009 --> 02:34:00.009 I'll just check if the General Manager of Place Making and Environment is clearer 02:34:00.009 --> 02:34:02.016 on those blocks of land for you. 02:34:06.013 --> 02:34:08.001 CHRIS PIKE: Yes, through 02:34:08.001 --> 02:34:10.023 - CR ADRIAN SCHONFELDER: Sorry, I was just going to say, Mayor, 02:34:10.023 --> 02:34:17.005 on page 207, point number 5 is helpful in this regard. 02:34:17.005 --> 02:34:19.022 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you, Councillor Schonfelder. 02:34:19.022 --> 02:34:23.001 CHRIS PIKE: Yes, through the Mayor, I was going to point to that image 02:34:23.001 --> 02:34:26.000 on the top of page 208. 02:34:26.000 --> 02:34:34.004 Certainly the smaller block to the south, if you like, does have a residence on it 02:34:34.004 --> 02:34:40.007 and that's referenced in the analysis of the potential impacts 02:34:40.007 --> 02:34:41.020 of the pole being sited there. 02:34:41.020 --> 02:34:47.012 There is a property to the east too, and likewise that's addressed 02:34:47.012 --> 02:34:49.000 in the report. 02:34:49.000 --> 02:34:53.011 I too don't have the information on the size of the parcels. 02:34:53.011 --> 02:34:54.023 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:34:54.023 --> 02:34:57.016 Councillor Wellington, do you wish to speak to the motion? 02:34:57.016 --> 02:34:59.004 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Yes. 02:34:59.004 --> 02:35:00.016 Look, so I've just 02:35:00.016 --> 02:35:05.017 - I can see there's farming zone land to the east 02:35:05.017 --> 02:35:10.010 of this property which I presume would be separate ownership, but I don't know. 02:35:10.010 --> 02:35:14.008 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Councillor Wellington, I'll just let you know the clock started 02:35:14.008 --> 02:35:17.012 because I did ask if you were speaking, so are you speaking currently 02:35:17.012 --> 02:35:19.000 to the motion or are you 02:35:19.000 --> 02:35:21.000 - CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: I'm speaking, yes. 02:35:21.000 --> 02:35:22.013 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Great. 02:35:22.013 --> 02:35:24.002 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Thank you. 02:35:24.002 --> 02:35:26.020 So in looking at this, it seems to me there's farm zone land, 02:35:26.020 --> 02:35:29.005 parcel (inaudible) Coombes Road, there's a parcel 02:35:29.005 --> 02:35:30.018 of farming zone land just south 02:35:30.018 --> 02:35:32.005 - just to the south of that. 02:35:32.005 --> 02:35:35.013 There's a lot of rural or low-density residential zone land around this 02:35:35.013 --> 02:35:42.016 and it's very close to Kithbrooke and various other sort of low-density 02:35:42.016 --> 02:35:44.017 residential developments. 02:35:44.017 --> 02:35:48.005 I'm really concerned just about the fact that (inaudible). 02:35:58.007 --> 02:36:03.006 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Councillor Wellington, your internet is becoming very unstable 02:36:03.006 --> 02:36:05.021 and we can't actually hear what you're saying. 02:36:05.021 --> 02:36:08.005 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: (Inaudible) support that. 02:36:08.005 --> 02:36:13.003 I agree totally with Councillor Barker what he says there (inaudible). 02:36:13.003 --> 02:36:14.018 Can I turn my video off for a moment? 02:36:14.018 --> 02:36:16.005 Is that better? 02:36:16.005 --> 02:36:17.018 Can you hear me? 02:36:17.018 --> 02:36:19.014 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Yes, that's better. 02:36:19.014 --> 02:36:23.003 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: I'll just leave it off for a moment, if you don't mind. 02:36:23.003 --> 02:36:27.000 So I agree entirely with Councillor Barker that the duplication of infrastructure 02:36:27.000 --> 02:36:30.000 is just absolutely appalling and will just create, you know, 02:36:30.000 --> 02:36:32.021 massive visual impact on the environment. 02:36:32.021 --> 02:36:36.023 I know there's a lot of infrastructure in this sort of area already, 02:36:36.023 --> 02:36:39.019 but if there's unnecessary additional 02:36:39.019 --> 02:36:41.022 infrastructure, then I don't support it. 02:36:41.022 --> 02:36:48.013 I'm just not convinced about the location of this and I'm not sure about the impact 02:36:48.013 --> 02:36:50.017 on that land that's adjacent to it. 02:36:50.017 --> 02:36:53.021 To me it's very close to the boundary. 02:36:53.021 --> 02:36:59.013 That land is small and probably not suitable for, you know, 02:36:59.013 --> 02:37:02.021 a commercial farming enterprise and the parcel of land to the south 02:37:02.021 --> 02:37:06.009 of that corner next to the public use farmland 02:37:06.009 --> 02:37:10.003 is also fairly small and still zone farming zone. 02:37:10.003 --> 02:37:14.005 So it just is potentially going to leave some orphan land 02:37:14.005 --> 02:37:17.011 in that corner that won't be very useful for much because it 02:37:17.011 --> 02:37:21.019 will be very closely adjacent to a telecommunications facility. 02:37:21.019 --> 02:37:23.007 I don't think I can support. 02:37:23.007 --> 02:37:26.018 And I know there's a lot of community unrest about this, a lot 02:37:26.018 --> 02:37:30.007 of submissions made about it, although I think only one person attended 02:37:30.007 --> 02:37:34.019 the hearing of submissions, but I'm sympathetic to those submissions 02:37:34.019 --> 02:37:36.024 and I don't think I will support this proposal. 02:37:36.024 --> 02:37:38.011 Thank you. 02:37:41.006 --> 02:37:42.019 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:37:42.019 --> 02:37:45.013 Councillor Schonfelder, did you have any closing remarks? 02:37:45.013 --> 02:37:47.001 No. 02:37:47.001 --> 02:37:48.013 We'll put the motion to the vote. 02:37:48.013 --> 02:37:50.001 All those in favour 02:37:50.001 --> 02:37:51.013 - sorry, Gary, did you want to 02:37:51.013 --> 02:37:54.016 - and also, Councillor Wellington, you'll need to put your video on 02:37:54.016 --> 02:37:56.003 before we vote. 02:37:56.003 --> 02:37:57.018 CR GARY ALLEN: Yes, thanks, Mayor. 02:37:57.018 --> 02:37:59.015 Again, I'm a bit conflicted about this. 02:37:59.015 --> 02:38:03.009 I'm very sympathetic to the Kithbrooke Retirement Village 02:38:03.009 --> 02:38:09.002 people who submitted to us, just adding to the terrible visual pollution 02:38:09.002 --> 02:38:10.015 that exists in that area. 02:38:14.005 --> 02:38:17.011 I understand it's probably well within the planning laws 02:38:17.011 --> 02:38:23.001 and therefore perhaps there's little we can do about it, but I think 02:38:23.001 --> 02:38:27.015 on principle I'm really opposed to this ad hoc siting 02:38:27.015 --> 02:38:34.007 of telecommunications poles, so I think I'll vote against the motion. 02:38:34.007 --> 02:38:36.024 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:38:36.024 --> 02:38:38.012 We've already talked about 02:38:38.012 --> 02:38:40.005 - great, okay. 02:38:40.005 --> 02:38:41.017 All those in favour 02:38:41.017 --> 02:38:43.005 - we'll put the motion to a vote. 02:38:43.005 --> 02:38:45.007 All those in favour. 02:38:45.007 --> 02:38:46.019 All those opposed. 02:38:49.001 --> 02:38:51.015 And the motion is carried 6-3. 02:38:57.004 --> 02:39:02.003 The next item we have is 4.9, Community Project Development Program 02:39:02.003 --> 02:39:04.008 - March 2023 Update. 02:39:04.008 --> 02:39:09.023 I'd like to note that I am declaring an interest in item 4.9 as point 2 02:39:09.023 --> 02:39:13.001 of the recommendation requests that Council note a matter related 02:39:13.001 --> 02:39:16.015 to the Jan Juc kindergarten bike shed proposal as my brother-in-law 02:39:16.015 --> 02:39:18.005 has a key role in the project. 02:39:18.005 --> 02:39:21.021 I will not be declaring a conflict of interest tonight because this 02:39:21.021 --> 02:39:23.009 is just for noting. 02:39:23.009 --> 02:39:26.009 However, when the item is presented for decision at a later date, 02:39:26.009 --> 02:39:28.009 I will declare a conflict of interest then. 02:39:28.009 --> 02:39:30.019 So the purpose of this report is to provide Council 02:39:30.019 --> 02:39:33.023 with the quarterly Community Project Development Program update. 02:39:33.023 --> 02:39:35.011 Do we have a mover of a motion? 02:39:35.011 --> 02:39:36.023 Councillor Allen 02:39:36.023 --> 02:39:38.011 - is it as per the recommendation? 02:39:38.011 --> 02:39:40.019 CR GARY ALLEN: As per the recommendation, Mayor. 02:39:40.019 --> 02:39:42.021 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: And do we have a seconder? 02:39:42.021 --> 02:39:44.009 Councillor Hodge. 02:39:44.009 --> 02:39:46.014 And would you like to speak, Councillor Allen? 02:39:46.014 --> 02:39:48.001 CR GARY ALLEN: Thanks, Mayor. 02:39:48.001 --> 02:39:51.015 The Community Project Development Program is driven from community ideas, 02:39:51.015 --> 02:39:54.007 with the Council helping through investigation support 02:39:54.007 --> 02:39:55.019 and finally approval. 02:39:55.019 --> 02:39:59.003 In the March quarterly update, we are affirming the feasibility 02:39:59.003 --> 02:40:02.013 of the Deans Marsh community streetscape proposal, 02:40:02.013 --> 02:40:06.015 referring the Jan Juc Kindergarten bike shelter program to the June meeting 02:40:06.015 --> 02:40:10.016 to allow for further investigation, and moving three proposals 02:40:10.016 --> 02:40:14.003 into the investigation phase. 02:40:14.003 --> 02:40:19.009 The Deans Marsh and District community is a very dynamic, proactive community 02:40:19.009 --> 02:40:23.000 with the Deans Marsh and District Community Action Plan being 02:40:23.000 --> 02:40:28.015 formulated in late 2019 through what is affectionately known 02:40:28.015 --> 02:40:31.021 as the mad cap process. 02:40:31.021 --> 02:40:34.022 The actions identified in mad cap were delayed due 02:40:34.022 --> 02:40:37.015 to the impacts of COVID. 02:40:37.015 --> 02:40:41.020 However, it's great to see the reactivation of the plan 02:40:41.020 --> 02:40:44.010 through the streetscape proposal. 02:40:44.010 --> 02:40:49.000 One of three actions in priority 2 our local environment 02:40:49.000 --> 02:40:54.020 and this recommendation tonight affirms its feasibility. 02:40:54.020 --> 02:41:00.021 The plan includes principally avenue plantings, an art and heritage trail, 02:41:00.021 --> 02:41:03.024 and township entry signage. 02:41:03.024 --> 02:41:08.007 Because of the demonstrated level of community commitment to the proposal, 02:41:08.007 --> 02:41:11.018 element working groups will start their detailed planning, 02:41:11.018 --> 02:41:14.022 which includes funding strategies. 02:41:14.022 --> 02:41:20.001 Congratulations to the streetscapers, a committed group who have worked 02:41:20.001 --> 02:41:23.018 with Council officers and a landscape architect 02:41:23.018 --> 02:41:28.008 to progress high-level ideas and to identify any site or project 02:41:28.008 --> 02:41:29.023 constraints. 02:41:29.023 --> 02:41:33.016 This group will be the catalyst to drive the proposal forward, 02:41:33.016 --> 02:41:37.016 with detailed planning and design work. 02:41:37.016 --> 02:41:40.014 It is also pleasing to note that three proposals now move 02:41:40.014 --> 02:41:42.001 into the investigation phase 02:41:42.001 --> 02:41:46.011 - namely, the upgrade to the Stribling Reserve Cricket Nets, 02:41:46.011 --> 02:41:49.014 netting behind the goalposts at the north end 02:41:49.014 --> 02:41:54.003 of the Polwarth Oval Torquay, and lighting for the Winchelsea Bowls Club. 02:41:56.007 --> 02:41:58.010 I have knowledge of the cricket nets proposal 02:41:58.010 --> 02:42:02.016 at Stribling Reserve Lorne, which I strongly support. 02:42:02.016 --> 02:42:06.017 It is great to see the revival of the cricket club at Lorne 02:42:06.017 --> 02:42:11.024 after several years in recess, with special thanks to Darren Balderas 02:42:11.024 --> 02:42:14.020 and his band of volunteers. 02:42:14.020 --> 02:42:19.013 It was a really special experience to be at a Friday night cricket match 02:42:19.013 --> 02:42:21.007 in Lorne under lights 02:42:21.007 --> 02:42:24.006 - and unlike the Gabba, they didn't fail 02:42:24.006 --> 02:42:33.015 - with several hundred people enjoying the game and the joy of seeing the revival 02:42:33.015 --> 02:42:37.023 of the club going against the trend of many sporting clubs 02:42:37.023 --> 02:42:41.007 in smaller rural townships. 02:42:41.007 --> 02:42:45.015 Polwarth Oval netting to stop lengthy retrieval of footballs 02:42:45.015 --> 02:42:50.009 is important for the fluency of the game and the protection of the surrounds. 02:42:50.009 --> 02:42:55.001 And lights at the Winchelsea Bowls Club will extend the amenity of the facility to 02:42:55.001 --> 02:43:01.008 all in the community, with extended hours of play being possible, and I expect it 02:43:01.008 --> 02:43:05.008 will place the club in a position to capitalise 02:43:05.008 --> 02:43:08.007 on the expected increased interest in bowls generated 02:43:08.007 --> 02:43:11.013 by the Commonwealth Games, which certainly was the experience 02:43:11.013 --> 02:43:13.000 in Manchester 02:43:13.000 --> 02:43:14.017 - Manchester, or Birmingham? 02:43:14.017 --> 02:43:16.005 Birmingham. 02:43:16.005 --> 02:43:19.015 It certainly was the experience in Birmingham, probably Manchester too. 02:43:19.015 --> 02:43:24.010 So I have much pleasure in moving the recommendation. 02:43:24.010 --> 02:43:26.018 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you, Councillor Allen. 02:43:26.018 --> 02:43:28.006 Councillor Hodge. 02:43:28.006 --> 02:43:31.002 CR ROSE HODGE: Well, I think it's all been covered, actually. 02:43:31.002 --> 02:43:34.007 But one thing great about this, we've got great officers that work out 02:43:34.007 --> 02:43:37.003 with the community and you see the volunteers coming forward 02:43:37.003 --> 02:43:39.020 and putting forward their ideas of what they want and then 02:43:39.020 --> 02:43:42.016 they can help go fund part of it and it's absolute ownership. 02:43:42.016 --> 02:43:46.017 So congratulations to Deans Marsh, great to see that is moving on, and we 02:43:46.017 --> 02:43:48.005 all saw 02:43:48.005 --> 02:43:51.002 - many of us went up to Deans Marsh on Sunday for their festival. 02:43:51.002 --> 02:43:52.018 What a fantastic community that is. 02:43:52.018 --> 02:43:55.024 But to see Lorne and Torquay and Winchelsea all involved 02:43:55.024 --> 02:43:59.013 with their volunteers of these clubs getting together, 02:43:59.013 --> 02:44:02.013 putting forward what they want, working with our officers, 02:44:02.013 --> 02:44:06.005 it's a great relationship we have with these volunteers of these great clubs 02:44:06.005 --> 02:44:08.023 and I recommend the report. 02:44:08.023 --> 02:44:10.010 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:44:10.010 --> 02:44:13.001 Would any other Councillors wish to speak to the motion? 02:44:13.001 --> 02:44:14.013 Councillor Wellington. 02:44:14.013 --> 02:44:18.006 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Yes, I'd just like to say the Winchelsea Bowls lighting, 02:44:18.006 --> 02:44:23.015 as Councillor Allen mentioned, I do think bowls has been 02:44:23.015 --> 02:44:25.009 becoming increasingly popular. 02:44:25.009 --> 02:44:28.008 It's attracting a younger group, which is what's happening out 02:44:28.008 --> 02:44:33.011 at Winchelsea, and I think it will only continue to grow 02:44:33.011 --> 02:44:35.006 and particularly as Winchelsea grows. 02:44:35.006 --> 02:44:38.014 So I think we need to look at the facilities those clubs have, 02:44:38.014 --> 02:44:41.019 not just their lighting but the quality of other facilities. 02:44:41.019 --> 02:44:43.006 They're certainly not as good 02:44:43.006 --> 02:44:47.016 - I think the quality is not as good as some other sports around the district, 02:44:47.016 --> 02:44:52.018 like potentially basketball, et cetera, have got really good facilities. 02:44:52.018 --> 02:44:56.004 But the bowls club I think need to be (inaudible) and 02:44:56.004 --> 02:45:00.022 they are becoming increasingly popular, so I'm pleased to see that project funded. 02:45:00.022 --> 02:45:03.009 Thank you. 02:45:03.009 --> 02:45:04.022 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:45:04.022 --> 02:45:06.009 Councillor Barker? 02:45:06.009 --> 02:45:07.022 CR PAUL BARKER: Thanks, Mayor. 02:45:07.022 --> 02:45:09.009 We're heading into a recession. 02:45:09.009 --> 02:45:13.003 Hundreds of rate paying, working families in our shire are struggling to put food 02:45:13.003 --> 02:45:14.016 on the table. 02:45:14.016 --> 02:45:17.007 Many of the projects listed here generally sound, sure. 02:45:17.007 --> 02:45:20.019 But in the current financial climate, I don't think so. 02:45:20.019 --> 02:45:23.017 I think this is discretionary spending that needs to be halted. 02:45:23.017 --> 02:45:26.020 I'd prefer to see greater fundraising from the community to pay 02:45:26.020 --> 02:45:28.008 for these sorts of items. 02:45:28.008 --> 02:45:32.002 All of these commitments of thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands 02:45:32.002 --> 02:45:34.008 of dollars add up to millions of dollars. 02:45:34.008 --> 02:45:37.011 If you want to carry on like business as usual, that's your choice. 02:45:37.011 --> 02:45:40.004 I know we're only at the start of widespread financial pain 02:45:40.004 --> 02:45:41.017 over coming decades. 02:45:41.017 --> 02:45:43.020 With all of mainland Australia's states now 02:45:43.020 --> 02:45:46.023 governed by big spenders and supposedly financial conservatives 02:45:46.023 --> 02:45:49.024 dwindling in relevance, you can be sure financially responsible 02:45:49.024 --> 02:45:51.011 governance is a long way off. 02:45:55.004 --> 02:46:00.018 There's just so much to address here. 02:46:00.018 --> 02:46:04.008 I know I'm in the minority, so you vote the way you do 02:46:04.008 --> 02:46:06.013 and I'll vote the way I do. 02:46:06.013 --> 02:46:08.001 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:46:08.001 --> 02:46:10.016 Councillor Allen, did you have any closing statements? 02:46:10.016 --> 02:46:12.013 CR GARY ALLEN: Just a couple of comments. 02:46:12.013 --> 02:46:15.021 I think what is often overlooked with government spending at all levels 02:46:15.021 --> 02:46:20.013 is the multiplier effect of that spending, that it has generating income 02:46:20.013 --> 02:46:24.023 and employment throughout the community and it does put food on the plates 02:46:24.023 --> 02:46:28.002 of workers and their families. 02:46:28.002 --> 02:46:35.014 The effect of this spending is widespread and is directly related to the ability 02:46:35.014 --> 02:46:42.008 of people to consume or to spend, influencing that multiplier effect, 02:46:42.008 --> 02:46:43.020 but it's real. 02:46:46.012 --> 02:46:52.015 Talking about the Winchelsea Bowls Club, Councillor Wellington raised the issue 02:46:52.015 --> 02:46:54.020 of the expansion of the club. 02:46:54.020 --> 02:46:59.011 I think bowls is really an intergenerational sport 02:46:59.011 --> 02:47:04.021 and it's gender neutral, so in all those aspects it's just fantastic 02:47:04.021 --> 02:47:08.006 that you've got a 20-year-old bowling with an 85-year-old, 02:47:10.017 --> 02:47:12.007 no matter what the gender. 02:47:12.007 --> 02:47:17.016 So what we can do to enhance bowling within our communities I think 02:47:17.016 --> 02:47:20.002 is a very positive thing. 02:47:20.002 --> 02:47:21.014 Thank you. 02:47:21.014 --> 02:47:23.002 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:47:23.002 --> 02:47:25.008 All those in favour. 02:47:25.008 --> 02:47:27.007 Opposed. 02:47:27.007 --> 02:47:28.021 And the motion is carried 8-1. 02:47:32.008 --> 02:47:35.008 Now we move on to 4.10, Community Asset Committee Changes 02:47:35.008 --> 02:47:36.021 to Membership 02:47:36.021 --> 02:47:39.007 - Anderson Roadknight Reserve, Anglesea Bike Park, 02:47:39.007 --> 02:47:40.019 and Connewarre Reserve. 02:47:40.019 --> 02:47:43.013 The recommendation for this report requests that Council 02:47:43.013 --> 02:47:46.022 accept the resignation of members from the Anderson Roadknight Reserve 02:47:46.022 --> 02:47:50.011 and Anglesea Bike Club Community Asset Committees and appoints new members 02:47:50.011 --> 02:47:53.005 to these committees as well as to the Connewarre Reserve 02:47:53.005 --> 02:47:54.020 Community Asset Committee. 02:47:54.020 --> 02:47:56.008 Do we have a mover of a motion? 02:47:56.008 --> 02:47:57.020 Councillor Bodsworth 02:47:57.020 --> 02:47:59.008 - as per the recommendation? 02:47:59.008 --> 02:48:00.020 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: Yes. 02:48:00.020 --> 02:48:02.011 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: And a seconder? 02:48:02.011 --> 02:48:03.023 Councillor Barker. 02:48:03.023 --> 02:48:06.005 And Councillor Bodsworth, do you wish to speak? 02:48:06.005 --> 02:48:08.000 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: Yes, thanks, Mayor. 02:48:08.000 --> 02:48:10.008 In the interests of time, I'd just like to thank all 02:48:10.008 --> 02:48:15.023 of our community asset committee members past, present and future, 02:48:15.023 --> 02:48:19.011 including the people listed in our report, but I'd particularly like 02:48:19.011 --> 02:48:26.022 to acknowledge Ari Lingam's contribution as the driving force behind the creation 02:48:26.022 --> 02:48:32.012 of the Anglesea Bike Park, which was completed in 2006. 02:48:32.012 --> 02:48:36.021 I think it's pretty fair to say that if it wasn't for Ari's advocacy 02:48:36.021 --> 02:48:40.007 and tenacity on that, the bike park wouldn't exist and 02:48:40.007 --> 02:48:47.003 in that time, in that 16-odd years, it's brought so much joy to so many people 02:48:47.003 --> 02:48:51.023 as well as being a significant part of Anglesea's attractiveness to visitors. 02:48:51.023 --> 02:48:57.008 So a special shoutout to Ari and great appreciation 02:48:57.008 --> 02:48:59.004 to the other people mentioned. 02:48:59.004 --> 02:49:01.004 Thanks. 02:49:01.004 --> 02:49:02.017 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:49:02.017 --> 02:49:05.006 Councillor Barker, did you want to speak to the motion? 02:49:05.006 --> 02:49:06.018 CR PAUL BARKER: No, thanks. 02:49:06.018 --> 02:49:08.006 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: No? 02:49:08.006 --> 02:49:09.018 Councillor Hodge? 02:49:09.018 --> 02:49:13.012 CR ROSE HODGE: Just very, very quickly, I want to reiterate Councillor Bodsworth 02:49:13.012 --> 02:49:16.001 on Ari and the other people as well, but I remember it was 02:49:16.001 --> 02:49:18.007 in December 2006 when that bike path was opened. 02:49:18.007 --> 02:49:22.018 It was my first event as Mayor and it was about 110 degrees, 02:49:22.018 --> 02:49:27.007 I remember it very well, and Ari was a shining star then and 02:49:27.007 --> 02:49:32.000 he still was and he was a huge driver in that area and has continued. 02:49:32.000 --> 02:49:34.014 So could you please pass on my personal thanks to him too 02:49:34.014 --> 02:49:40.005 for being there for me for my first event and also the great work that he's given, 02:49:40.005 --> 02:49:41.017 it's really been great. 02:49:44.009 --> 02:49:47.011 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Did you have any closing remarks, Councillor 02:49:47.011 --> 02:49:49.018 - sorry, Councillor Wellington? 02:49:49.018 --> 02:49:51.008 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Thank you. 02:49:51.008 --> 02:49:56.015 Sorry, I just wanted to briefly say thank you to those volunteers that have retired 02:49:56.015 --> 02:50:01.019 and to all the volunteers who run these committees and facilities for us. 02:50:01.019 --> 02:50:05.001 I'm deeply disappointed to see that we still require them all 02:50:05.001 --> 02:50:07.018 to do a Working With Children check. 02:50:07.018 --> 02:50:11.022 It's not a good policy and it's a bureaucratic barrier put 02:50:11.022 --> 02:50:13.014 in people's way. 02:50:13.014 --> 02:50:15.010 There's a cost to it. 02:50:15.010 --> 02:50:17.005 It is clear that it's not good practice. 02:50:17.005 --> 02:50:20.011 You only should do Working with Children checks when people actually 02:50:20.011 --> 02:50:23.009 have some realistic prospect of working with children and many 02:50:23.009 --> 02:50:24.022 of these people do not. 02:50:24.022 --> 02:50:28.011 Obviously some of them would, some of our communities would, but many 02:50:28.011 --> 02:50:31.017 of them do not and it's very poor practice and I'm very disappointed 02:50:31.017 --> 02:50:33.005 to see it's still there. 02:50:33.005 --> 02:50:38.006 But I hope it doesn't dissuade some volunteers from continuing to come forward 02:50:38.006 --> 02:50:41.000 to do this important job. 02:50:41.000 --> 02:50:42.017 Thank you. 02:50:42.017 --> 02:50:44.005 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:50:44.005 --> 02:50:46.010 Councillor Bodsworth, do you have any closing? 02:50:46.010 --> 02:50:48.004 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: No, thanks, Mayor. 02:50:48.004 --> 02:50:50.015 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: We'll put the motion to the vote. 02:50:50.015 --> 02:50:52.003 All those in favour. 02:50:52.003 --> 02:50:53.023 And the motion is carried unanimously. 02:50:53.023 --> 02:50:58.007 We now move on to Review of SCS-004 Place Naming Policy. 02:50:58.007 --> 02:51:02.005 This report seeks Council's endorsement for the draft Place Naming Policy 02:51:02.005 --> 02:51:04.001 to be placed on public exhibition. 02:51:04.001 --> 02:51:05.013 Do I have a mover? 02:51:05.013 --> 02:51:07.001 Councillor Schonfelder. 02:51:07.001 --> 02:51:08.013 And a seconder? 02:51:08.013 --> 02:51:10.001 Councillor Allen. 02:51:10.001 --> 02:51:11.015 Did you wish to speak to the motion? 02:51:11.015 --> 02:51:14.015 CR ADRIAN SCHONFELDER: I'll just speak very briefly and say that 02:51:14.015 --> 02:51:17.023 since being elected, I've been really heartened 02:51:17.023 --> 02:51:23.022 by the measures that we've taken as a Council towards reconciliation 02:51:23.022 --> 02:51:26.023 and I've actually heard back from many members 02:51:26.023 --> 02:51:32.020 of the community who are very enthusiastic about us and they believe the time 02:51:32.020 --> 02:51:42.013 is right to forward the progress of trying to achieve reconciliation. 02:51:42.013 --> 02:51:49.004 And I know that this policy is a review of place naming and recently, Mayor, 02:51:49.004 --> 02:51:55.023 I visited relatives overseas and I went to the museum of the City of New York 02:51:55.023 --> 02:52:00.005 and I learnt that Manhattan is actually the native American Indian 02:52:00.005 --> 02:52:05.007 name for Manhattan Island and I was really heartened by that, 02:52:05.007 --> 02:52:12.023 and I know that many of our areas within our shire have Aboriginal names 02:52:12.023 --> 02:52:18.007 and there are also names of areas that have English or 02:52:18.007 --> 02:52:23.007 non-Aboriginal names and I know as a part of the reconciliation process 02:52:23.007 --> 02:52:25.006 we're addressing that. 02:52:25.006 --> 02:52:27.005 So I welcome this review. 02:52:27.005 --> 02:52:28.017 Thank you, Mayor. 02:52:28.017 --> 02:52:30.005 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:52:30.005 --> 02:52:31.017 Councillor Allen? 02:52:31.017 --> 02:52:33.005 CR GARY ALLEN: Thanks, Mayor. 02:52:33.005 --> 02:52:34.023 We're combining two policies into one 02:52:34.023 --> 02:52:39.003 - namely, the place making policy with the plaque and memorials policy. 02:52:39.003 --> 02:52:42.010 If the recommendation is passed, this draft policy will be put out 02:52:42.010 --> 02:52:46.021 to the community for four weeks to seek feedback. 02:52:46.021 --> 02:52:49.023 Now, whilst not wishing to comment specifically about any element 02:52:49.023 --> 02:52:54.023 of the policy, I was reminded a little bit of the policy when I recently conducted 02:52:54.023 --> 02:52:59.021 a tour of the Lorne cemetery for the Lorne Historical Society. 02:52:59.021 --> 02:53:03.014 The old cemetery was a variety of memorials both colourful 02:53:03.014 --> 02:53:09.008 in their design and with the stories also colourful, compared 02:53:09.008 --> 02:53:13.013 to the recent Lawn Cemetery, that's L-A-W-N Cemetery, 02:53:13.013 --> 02:53:19.006 with admittedly the same colourful stories but with the standard memorials. 02:53:19.006 --> 02:53:23.019 And I thought we are regulated in life and now we are regulated and controlled 02:53:23.019 --> 02:53:25.007 in death. 02:53:31.012 --> 02:53:35.011 The Lorne community were recently told they could not name a seat 02:53:35.011 --> 02:53:40.017 after an individual or have a wall to remember those whose ashes have been 02:53:40.017 --> 02:53:42.010 scattered at sea. 02:53:42.010 --> 02:53:47.015 Now, this was not a Council regulation, but it was a regulation 02:53:47.015 --> 02:53:56.001 by a similar authority with ever increasing power over our lives. 02:53:56.001 --> 02:54:00.017 I'll be very interested to look at the policy feedback that we receive 02:54:00.017 --> 02:54:03.014 by putting this draft out for consultation. 02:54:03.014 --> 02:54:05.017 Thank you. 02:54:05.017 --> 02:54:07.005 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:54:07.005 --> 02:54:08.017 Councillor Wellington? 02:54:08.017 --> 02:54:11.002 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: I just had a quick question. 02:54:11.002 --> 02:54:21.020 As I read this proposal for names of roads and other infrastructure, 02:54:21.020 --> 02:54:23.007 it could be traditional owner 02:54:23.007 --> 02:54:28.000 - you know, Indigenous names or they could be other names. 02:54:28.000 --> 02:54:32.006 There's no compulsion to name every street in the shire 02:54:32.006 --> 02:54:34.010 after Indigenous persons, is there? 02:54:34.010 --> 02:54:37.016 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: No, that's not the case. 02:54:37.016 --> 02:54:39.009 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Okay, thanks. 02:54:39.009 --> 02:54:42.023 The reason I asked that is because I've been told in Winchelsea that 02:54:42.023 --> 02:54:46.016 for some reason people associated with new development had the impression 02:54:46.016 --> 02:54:50.006 that officers were saying to them that they could only put forward Indigenous 02:54:50.006 --> 02:54:54.008 names and they didn't understand that and it doesn't seem to be associated 02:54:54.008 --> 02:54:55.021 with any 02:54:55.021 --> 02:54:59.014 - well, certainly I don't believe that the new developments 02:54:59.014 --> 02:55:03.016 of which I'm aware have been compelled to use Indigenous names 02:55:03.016 --> 02:55:05.003 and I think it's appropriate 02:55:05.003 --> 02:55:07.017 - I mean, I live in a place with an Indigenous name, 02:55:07.017 --> 02:55:11.024 but it's certainly there in the mix principally, which I see 02:55:11.024 --> 02:55:13.011 as being appropriate. 02:55:13.011 --> 02:55:19.020 But I wouldn't like to think we would sort of implement a requirement that no 02:55:19.020 --> 02:55:23.001 other names were acceptable or appropriate 02:55:23.001 --> 02:55:25.020 So I just wanted to clarify that this policy didn't do 02:55:25.020 --> 02:55:27.007 that. 02:55:27.007 --> 02:55:32.007 I'll be interested in the feedback on this. 02:55:32.007 --> 02:55:35.015 There's obviously a lot of people in communities (inaudible) you walk 02:55:35.015 --> 02:55:39.015 around the cemeteries, but you only need to talk to people in small towns 02:55:39.015 --> 02:55:41.018 and you'll get the names and family histories 02:55:41.018 --> 02:55:44.020 and the incredible contributions people have made over the years 02:55:44.020 --> 02:55:48.003 and it's right that those people should continue to be recognised. 02:55:48.003 --> 02:55:51.018 As long as we're not somehow precluding that through this policy, 02:55:51.018 --> 02:55:56.010 which it didn't read to me as if we were, but I was surprised to hear that feedback. 02:55:56.010 --> 02:55:59.018 However, I'm happy for it to go out to community and I'll make sure it goes 02:55:59.018 --> 02:56:05.002 to the people who gave me that feedback and just see what their view on it is. 02:56:05.002 --> 02:56:06.015 Thank you. 02:56:06.015 --> 02:56:08.002 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:56:08.002 --> 02:56:10.022 Councillor Schonfelder, did you have any closing remarks? 02:56:10.022 --> 02:56:12.015 CR ADRIAN SCHONFELDER: No, thank you. 02:56:12.015 --> 02:56:14.003 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: No. 02:56:14.003 --> 02:56:15.015 We'll put the motion to the vote. 02:56:15.015 --> 02:56:17.003 All those in favour. 02:56:17.003 --> 02:56:18.023 And the motion is carried unanimously. 02:56:18.023 --> 02:56:21.021 We now move on to 4.12, Local Government Performance Reporting 02:56:21.021 --> 02:56:23.015 - 1 July-31 December 2022. 02:56:23.015 --> 02:56:26.023 This item presents the Local government Performance Report to Council 02:56:26.023 --> 02:56:30.016 for the period of the 1st of July to the 31st of December 2022. 02:56:30.016 --> 02:56:32.003 Do we have a mover of a motion? 02:56:34.016 --> 02:56:36.003 Councillor Barker. 02:56:36.003 --> 02:56:37.018 Is that as per the recommendation? 02:56:37.018 --> 02:56:39.005 Yes. 02:56:39.005 --> 02:56:41.000 And a seconder? 02:56:41.000 --> 02:56:42.023 Councillor Bodsworth. 02:56:42.023 --> 02:56:45.012 Councillor Barker, did you wish to speak to the motion? 02:56:45.012 --> 02:56:47.001 CR PAUL BARKER: No, thanks, Mayor. 02:56:47.001 --> 02:56:50.007 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Councillor Bodsworth, do you wish to speak to it? 02:56:50.007 --> 02:56:52.000 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: No, thanks, Mayor. 02:56:52.000 --> 02:56:54.023 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Would anybody like to speak to the motion? 02:56:54.023 --> 02:56:56.010 Councillor Allen? 02:56:56.010 --> 02:56:59.013 CR GARY ALLEN: Look, many of the service indicators are incomplete 02:56:59.013 --> 02:57:02.003 as they require a 12-month period or that the surveys are 02:57:02.003 --> 02:57:05.006 to be conducted in January to March and have not yet been completed. 02:57:08.001 --> 02:57:13.011 And I note with satisfaction that there are fewer Council decisions made 02:57:13.011 --> 02:57:15.008 at closed meetings. 02:57:15.008 --> 02:57:18.020 This is resulting in improved transparency due mainly 02:57:18.020 --> 02:57:22.017 to more tenders being awarded in the open meeting, 02:57:22.017 --> 02:57:27.000 which I think has been a fantastic move. 02:57:27.000 --> 02:57:32.000 The timeframe to action food complaints is very good, with most being completed 02:57:32.000 --> 02:57:36.009 within one day, and perhaps we can give ourselves a bit 02:57:36.009 --> 02:57:39.024 of a pat on the back with the number of Councillors attending Council meetings 02:57:39.024 --> 02:57:42.013 rising significantly since 2019. 02:57:42.013 --> 02:57:46.000 Thank you. 02:57:46.000 --> 02:57:47.012 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:57:47.012 --> 02:57:49.003 We'll now put the motion to the vote. 02:57:49.003 --> 02:57:51.013 All those in favour. 02:57:51.013 --> 02:57:54.007 And the motion is carried. 02:57:54.007 --> 02:57:55.019 I note that's 8. 02:57:58.011 --> 02:58:01.013 - Councillor Wellington, Councillor Gazzard has just stepped out 02:58:01.013 --> 02:58:04.001 for a moment, so that's why it's 8 that have been 02:58:04.001 --> 02:58:05.014 in favour. 02:58:05.014 --> 02:58:11.023 4.13, Award Contract Under 2022-23 Capital Works Program. 02:58:11.023 --> 02:58:15.019 This matter is being presented to Council to seek higher powers of delegation 02:58:15.019 --> 02:58:20.000 for the CEO in relation to one specific 2022-23 02:58:20.000 --> 02:58:23.016 Capital Works Project so that it can be delivered prior to the winter months and 02:58:23.016 --> 02:58:25.004 to meet grant deadlines. 02:58:25.004 --> 02:58:27.011 Do we have a mover of a motion? 02:58:27.011 --> 02:58:28.023 Councillor Bodsworth 02:58:28.023 --> 02:58:30.011 - is it as per the recommendation. 02:58:30.011 --> 02:58:32.006 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: Yes, thanks, Mayor. 02:58:32.006 --> 02:58:35.003 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: And seconded by Councillor Schonfelder. 02:58:35.003 --> 02:58:37.007 Did you wish to speak, Councillor Bodsworth? 02:58:37.007 --> 02:58:40.003 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: Briefly just to say that this is an example 02:58:40.003 --> 02:58:43.009 of what Councillor Allen just mentioned, where we're discussing more 02:58:43.009 --> 02:58:46.008 contract-related motions in open Council meeting rather than 02:58:46.008 --> 02:58:49.017 in closed Council meeting, which I think is a good thing. 02:58:49.017 --> 02:58:54.005 We're not able to discuss the budget and other aspects of it, 02:58:54.005 --> 02:59:00.020 which are confidential, but we can discuss the content 02:59:00.020 --> 02:59:06.010 of the report, and in this case, we're looking at a restricted time window 02:59:06.010 --> 02:59:12.011 to get really important work done before the winter season strikes, 02:59:12.011 --> 02:59:19.013 which requires that the CEO be able to sign on to a contract without it having 02:59:19.013 --> 02:59:21.016 to come back to Council. 02:59:21.016 --> 02:59:24.023 So I think it's a sensible recommendation given the time constraints. 02:59:24.023 --> 02:59:26.010 You also have a grant 02:59:26.010 --> 02:59:30.008 - we have some external funding deadlines to meet in relation to this work, 02:59:30.008 --> 02:59:33.013 so there are a couple of good reasons why it needs 02:59:33.013 --> 02:59:38.010 to be expedited and we don't want it to have to come back to a council meeting. 02:59:38.010 --> 02:59:41.010 So I fully support the recommendation. 02:59:41.010 --> 02:59:42.022 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 02:59:42.022 --> 02:59:45.009 Councillor Schonfelder, did you wish to speak to it? 02:59:45.009 --> 02:59:46.021 No. 02:59:46.021 --> 02:59:48.020 Would any other Councillors wish to speak? 02:59:48.020 --> 02:59:50.007 Councillor Wellington. 02:59:50.007 --> 02:59:53.017 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: (Inaudible) this is a very important project. 02:59:53.017 --> 03:00:03.012 (Inaudible) suffered substantial damage in (inaudible) that we had. 03:00:03.012 --> 03:00:09.017 I think this is an important project to help address this (inaudible) get 03:00:09.017 --> 03:00:11.017 the report back to the CEO. 03:00:11.017 --> 03:00:13.005 There's no problem with it. 03:00:13.005 --> 03:00:14.017 Thank you. 03:00:14.017 --> 03:00:18.005 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Councillor Barker, did you identify you wanted to speak 03:00:18.005 --> 03:00:19.018 as well? 03:00:19.018 --> 03:00:21.009 CR PAUL BARKER: Yes, thanks, Mayor. 03:00:21.009 --> 03:00:24.000 This recommendation is based on time constraints bound 03:00:24.000 --> 03:00:25.012 to external grant funding. 03:00:25.012 --> 03:00:29.006 If it wasn't the key consideration would be whether impact to works I might be keen 03:00:29.006 --> 03:00:31.024 to support it, but it's related to external grant funding, 03:00:31.024 --> 03:00:34.017 so what we're voting on here is rushing a piece of road works 03:00:34.017 --> 03:00:38.013 because we want to get our hands on taxpayer funds from outside our shire. 03:00:38.013 --> 03:00:42.006 The reason this delegation of power for spending exceeds the CEO's 03:00:42.006 --> 03:00:46.000 financial allocation of $600,000 is that a number of projects, 03:00:46.000 --> 03:00:50.005 most of which I don't think are critical, have all been lumped together. 03:00:50.005 --> 03:00:53.003 Now, what happens when multiple projects are lumped together? 03:00:53.003 --> 03:00:56.016 They create tenders that smaller contractors simply cannot apply for. 03:00:56.016 --> 03:00:59.009 That leaves only larger companies in a position to tender, 03:00:59.009 --> 03:01:02.018 meaning less competition, resulting in a less competitive 03:01:02.018 --> 03:01:05.001 tender process, meaning we all pay more. 03:01:09.004 --> 03:01:14.010 Yeah, I'd rather see a focus going into specifically fixing Horseshoe Bend 03:01:14.010 --> 03:01:25.005 Road at the Thompsons Creek rectification zone, but that was only built in 03:01:25.005 --> 03:01:29.016 - well, reconstructed in 2019, I think. 03:01:29.016 --> 03:01:31.011 Is that about 03:01:34.000 --> 03:01:37.000 - MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Mr Pike, did you want to mention something. 03:01:37.000 --> 03:01:39.015 CHRIS PIKE: Through the Mayor, just if I can offer a point 03:01:39.015 --> 03:01:42.004 of clarification to help Councillors in their debate. 03:01:42.004 --> 03:01:45.001 Obviously Horseshoe Bend Road is a significantly long road 03:01:45.001 --> 03:01:52.000 and the section that this contract would relate to is here in urban Torquay close 03:01:52.000 --> 03:01:57.023 to the primary school, the Torquay Coast Primary School, so south 03:01:57.023 --> 03:02:02.003 of South Beach Road roundabout. 03:02:02.003 --> 03:02:06.015 There's separate work being undertaken around rectifying the damage 03:02:06.015 --> 03:02:12.023 at the actual bend in Horseshoe Bend Road where the flood damage occurred. 03:02:12.023 --> 03:02:15.004 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thanks for clarification. 03:02:15.004 --> 03:02:17.019 Did you have any further comments, Councillor Barker? 03:02:17.019 --> 03:02:20.018 CR PAUL BARKER: Yeah, thanks for that clarification, Mr Pike, 03:02:20.018 --> 03:02:24.006 but I see there's all these bits and pieces going on on 03:02:24.006 --> 03:02:28.003 like the wombat crossing and all the rest and we're getting taxpayer funds for that. 03:02:31.013 --> 03:02:33.019 I think we need to focus on what's most important 03:02:33.019 --> 03:02:40.001 and that's the Thompson Creek damage, but getting into 03:02:40.001 --> 03:02:44.000 all these other little bits and pieces, I don't think it's essential. 03:02:44.000 --> 03:02:48.004 So again, you do you, I'll do me. 03:02:48.004 --> 03:02:51.023 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Councillor Bodsworth, did you have any closing statements? 03:02:51.023 --> 03:02:53.017 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: No, thanks, Mayor. 03:02:53.017 --> 03:02:56.003 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: We'll put the motion to the vote. 03:02:56.003 --> 03:02:57.015 All those in favour. 03:02:57.015 --> 03:02:59.003 And opposed. 03:02:59.003 --> 03:03:01.010 And the motion is carried, 8-1. 03:03:01.010 --> 03:03:05.010 We now move on to item 4.14, Project Budget Adjustments 03:03:05.010 --> 03:03:06.023 and Cash Reserve Transfers 03:03:06.023 --> 03:03:08.010 - March 2023. 03:03:08.010 --> 03:03:11.010 This report is presented for Council ratification and approval 03:03:11.010 --> 03:03:14.010 of proposed budget adjustments and cash reserve transfers 03:03:14.010 --> 03:03:17.012 relating to the 2022-23 financial year. 03:03:17.012 --> 03:03:18.024 Do we have a mover? 03:03:18.024 --> 03:03:20.012 Councillor Allen 03:03:20.012 --> 03:03:21.024 - as per the recommendation? 03:03:21.024 --> 03:03:23.022 CR GARY ALLEN: As per the recommendation. 03:03:23.022 --> 03:03:26.008 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: And do I have a seconder, please? 03:03:26.008 --> 03:03:27.021 Councillor Bodsworth. 03:03:27.021 --> 03:03:29.016 Councillor Allen, do you wish to speak? 03:03:29.016 --> 03:03:31.008 CR GARY ALLEN: Yes, thank you, Mayor. 03:03:31.008 --> 03:03:37.002 I just wanted to focus on the item that is reporting the transfer of $1,260,000 03:03:37.002 --> 03:03:40.015 from the Deans Marsh Community Hall redevelopment 03:03:40.015 --> 03:03:43.018 to the Winchelsea Pool redevelopment. 03:03:43.018 --> 03:03:47.015 I along with Councillors Hodge and Stapleton was 03:03:47.015 --> 03:03:52.024 at the Deans Marsh Festival on Sunday and I and they heard mixed views 03:03:52.024 --> 03:03:54.014 about this recommendation. 03:03:56.017 --> 03:04:01.013 One consequence was referred in the public question time by Tony Watts 03:04:01.013 --> 03:04:06.021 - namely, the ongoing maintenance issues at the hall. 03:04:06.021 --> 03:04:11.021 Others were despondent that the project has been placed on hold. 03:04:11.021 --> 03:04:15.013 People have been working very hard over the past two years 03:04:15.013 --> 03:04:17.003 to reimagine the facility. 03:04:19.013 --> 03:04:23.010 Due to the issues faced with the redevelopment of the hall 03:04:23.010 --> 03:04:25.024 and the comprehensive nature of our consultation 03:04:25.024 --> 03:04:30.005 with the Deans Marsh community, this project is not ready 03:04:30.005 --> 03:04:37.019 to progress in the 2023-24 financial year and given the complexities identified, 03:04:37.019 --> 03:04:43.011 we will need grant funding as identified by the CEO earlier this evening. 03:04:43.011 --> 03:04:46.023 And as stated in the report, this project will be rescheduled 03:04:46.023 --> 03:04:53.012 for asset renewal in the 2026-27 budget, thus giving time 03:04:53.012 --> 03:04:57.010 to source the necessary grant funding if the project proceeds. 03:05:00.006 --> 03:05:05.019 It is therefore appropriate to allocate, or reallocate, this asset renewal funding, 03:05:05.019 --> 03:05:11.008 which we know is an important element of our future budgetary deliberations and 03:05:11.008 --> 03:05:15.010 is limited to the Winchelsea Pool redevelopment 03:05:15.010 --> 03:05:20.003 project which has seen cost overrun. 03:05:20.003 --> 03:05:24.023 This is an asset that will also be accessed by the Deans Marsh 03:05:24.023 --> 03:05:27.016 and District communities and therefore I think it 03:05:27.016 --> 03:05:33.018 is a worthy project for that money to be redirected too 03:05:33.018 --> 03:05:37.021 as the Deans Marsh Hall project isn't ready to go out. 03:05:39.024 --> 03:05:43.011 Although it's painful in the Deans Marsh community and I sympathise 03:05:43.011 --> 03:05:46.014 with the various views expressed in that community, 03:05:49.008 --> 03:05:51.020 but it's just the reality, I'm afraid. 03:05:51.020 --> 03:05:53.008 Thank you. 03:05:53.008 --> 03:05:54.020 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 03:05:54.020 --> 03:05:56.008 Councillor Bodsworth? 03:05:56.008 --> 03:05:59.001 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: Just to agree with Councillor Allen and 03:05:59.001 --> 03:06:02.003 to say I appreciate the report, the transparency that it provides, 03:06:02.003 --> 03:06:05.015 and I think it's fairly self-explanatory. 03:06:05.015 --> 03:06:08.009 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Do any other Councillors wish to speak? 03:06:08.009 --> 03:06:09.021 SPEAKER: Just very briefly. 03:06:09.021 --> 03:06:12.013 I'd just like to add that there have been prior examples 03:06:12.013 --> 03:06:15.009 of where money has been relocated. 03:06:15.009 --> 03:06:21.009 One such example was the Lions Park in Moriac, where the soil was being tested 03:06:21.009 --> 03:06:28.012 for contamination and that money went to Torquay for a Scouting project. 03:06:28.012 --> 03:06:32.023 So it has happened previously and I sympathise 03:06:32.023 --> 03:06:38.001 with the Deans Marsh community and I understand the sentiments expressed 03:06:38.001 --> 03:06:40.003 by Councillor Allen. 03:06:40.003 --> 03:06:41.015 Thank you. 03:06:41.015 --> 03:06:43.003 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 03:06:43.003 --> 03:06:44.016 Counsellor Barker? 03:06:44.016 --> 03:06:47.005 CR PAUL BARKER: I'd like to thank Victorian taxpayers. 03:06:47.005 --> 03:06:52.016 Without your contribution of $90,000, we would not have been able to $74,595. 03:06:52.016 --> 03:06:55.014 It's only about 2 cents for every Victorian taxpayer to chip in, 03:06:55.014 --> 03:06:57.002 so it's no biggy, right? 03:06:57.002 --> 03:06:59.014 But how many of these small contributions are we 03:06:59.014 --> 03:07:03.017 all making to projects that have little to no relevance to the funding source? 03:07:03.017 --> 03:07:06.014 It's disappointing to see the Deans Marsh Hall redevelopment 03:07:06.014 --> 03:07:10.017 get bumped to the 26/27 financial year, as noted by other Councillors, 03:07:10.017 --> 03:07:13.007 so we can focus on Winchelsea Pool budget. 03:07:13.007 --> 03:07:15.014 I'm sure there will be many sad to hear this. 03:07:17.016 --> 03:07:19.004 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 03:07:19.004 --> 03:07:21.005 Councillor Wellington? 03:07:21.005 --> 03:07:22.019 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: Thank you. 03:07:22.019 --> 03:07:26.005 I really very much empathise with the Deans Marsh people. 03:07:26.005 --> 03:07:30.001 $1.2 million is a huge allocation for a small community like that and then 03:07:30.001 --> 03:07:35.007 to have to sort of forgo the Winchelsea Pool renewal 03:07:35.007 --> 03:07:39.005 is really a very important project, obviously, to the Winchelsea community, 03:07:39.005 --> 03:07:42.023 but if I'm still around in whenever it was, 2026/27, 03:07:42.023 --> 03:07:46.002 when I think the project is due to come up again, 03:07:46.002 --> 03:07:49.017 I'll certainly support Deans Marsh with their hall. 03:07:49.017 --> 03:07:51.004 I do think that 03:07:51.004 --> 03:07:55.017 - I'm concerned about the hall, I'm concerned about its condition, 03:07:55.017 --> 03:07:59.021 and I think Tony Watts' question was a very good question. 03:07:59.021 --> 03:08:03.014 We are the custodians of that hall and it does have a heritage overlay 03:08:03.014 --> 03:08:07.008 and we should not and cannot just allow demolition 03:08:07.008 --> 03:08:09.019 by neglect. 03:08:09.019 --> 03:08:13.024 So I'll be watching this current budget, forthcoming budget process, 03:08:13.024 --> 03:08:15.013 to see what we're doing. 03:08:15.013 --> 03:08:23.001 If that hall is just left with water undermining it, then it 03:08:23.001 --> 03:08:26.009 will just continue to deteriorate and there will be no prospect 03:08:26.009 --> 03:08:31.009 of retaining the heritage that some people think is a really important element of it. 03:08:31.009 --> 03:08:35.018 And the fact that it's listed in our planning scheme as a property 03:08:35.018 --> 03:08:38.018 with heritage significance, we should be taking that seriously 03:08:38.018 --> 03:08:40.019 and supporting it. 03:08:40.019 --> 03:08:44.022 So I thank Councillor Allen and the Deans Marsh community 03:08:44.022 --> 03:08:47.018 for their tolerance of the situation regarding the pool 03:08:47.018 --> 03:08:56.006 and throwing that money (inaudible) Winchelsea, but I also will be looking 03:08:56.006 --> 03:09:01.010 to make sure that the Deans Marsh Hall is probably maintained. 03:09:07.007 --> 03:09:08.019 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 03:09:08.019 --> 03:09:11.019 I think you've stopped speaking there, Councillor Wellington. 03:09:11.019 --> 03:09:14.015 I think we heard everything that you were saying, but you seem 03:09:14.015 --> 03:09:16.002 to have frozen a little. 03:09:16.002 --> 03:09:17.015 I'll take that, thank you. 03:09:17.015 --> 03:09:20.001 Councillor Allen, did you have any closing remarks? 03:09:20.001 --> 03:09:22.011 CR GARY ALLEN: Just to thank Councillor Wellington 03:09:22.011 --> 03:09:24.023 for her sentiments expressed. 03:09:24.023 --> 03:09:30.007 But obviously there is division within the Deans Marsh community 03:09:30.007 --> 03:09:33.011 and we can't gloss over that. 03:09:33.011 --> 03:09:38.024 The community is a little bit divided about whether we retain or 03:09:38.024 --> 03:09:44.003 whether the hall is replaced and this is one of the reasons I think why 03:09:44.003 --> 03:09:47.007 the project was delayed. 03:09:47.007 --> 03:09:52.016 But we must be diligent and continue to work with the community 03:09:52.016 --> 03:09:55.006 to reach resolution. 03:09:55.006 --> 03:09:57.012 The drainage was one of the reasons why there had 03:09:57.012 --> 03:10:01.015 to be massive maintenance and a massive amount of money spent 03:10:01.015 --> 03:10:04.024 to redevelop the hall, which opens up a whole series 03:10:04.024 --> 03:10:08.021 of questions which we can't explore this evening. 03:10:08.021 --> 03:10:12.023 But I thank Councillor Wellington for her concern and it's something that we 03:10:12.023 --> 03:10:15.008 will all be monitoring. 03:10:15.008 --> 03:10:16.021 Thank you. 03:10:16.021 --> 03:10:18.008 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Thank you. 03:10:18.008 --> 03:10:19.021 We now put the motion to the vote. 03:10:19.021 --> 03:10:22.013 All those in favour. 03:10:22.013 --> 03:10:25.021 All those opposed. 03:10:25.021 --> 03:10:27.013 Councillor Barker, did you vote? 03:10:27.013 --> 03:10:29.001 CR PAUL BARKER: Yes. 03:10:29.001 --> 03:10:30.016 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Opposed or for? 03:10:30.016 --> 03:10:32.004 CR PAUL BARKER: For. 03:10:32.004 --> 03:10:33.016 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: For. 03:10:33.016 --> 03:10:36.011 Okay, the motion is carried unanimously, and that's eight. 03:10:36.011 --> 03:10:40.024 So we now move on to 4.16, s6 Instrument of Delegation 03:10:40.024 --> 03:10:43.009 - Council to Members of Council Staff. 03:10:43.009 --> 03:10:47.007 The purpose of this report is to present the s6 Instrument of Delegation 03:10:47.007 --> 03:10:50.013 from Council to members of Council staff which has been reviewed 03:10:50.013 --> 03:10:52.007 and updated following changes. 03:10:52.007 --> 03:10:53.020 Have I skipped one? 03:10:55.021 --> 03:10:57.009 Sorry. 03:10:57.009 --> 03:10:58.023 In my eagerness, I skipped over it. 03:10:58.023 --> 03:11:00.023 Apologies for that. 03:11:00.023 --> 03:11:04.009 Moving on to 4.15, Instrument of Appointment and Authorisation. 03:11:04.009 --> 03:11:05.024 I'm glad no-one has fallen asleep. 03:11:05.024 --> 03:11:09.002 Actually, it was just a test to make sure you're all awake. 03:11:09.002 --> 03:11:11.011 Planning & Environment Act 1987. 03:11:11.011 --> 03:11:14.009 So the purpose of this report is to seek Council's endorsement 03:11:14.009 --> 03:11:17.023 for authorised officers under the Planning & Environment Act 1987 03:11:17.023 --> 03:11:21.009 through the updated Instrument of Authorisation and Appointment. 03:11:21.009 --> 03:11:24.018 This instrument requires updating due to recent staff appointments. 03:11:24.018 --> 03:11:26.005 Do we have a mover of a motion? 03:11:26.005 --> 03:11:27.018 Councillor Barker 03:11:27.018 --> 03:11:29.005 - as per the recommendation? 03:11:29.005 --> 03:11:30.021 Seconded by Councillor Bodsworth. 03:11:30.021 --> 03:11:32.011 Did you wish to speak, Councillor? 03:11:32.011 --> 03:11:33.023 No? 03:11:33.023 --> 03:11:35.011 And Councillor Bodsworth? 03:11:35.011 --> 03:11:36.023 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: No, thanks. 03:11:36.023 --> 03:11:38.011 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: No. 03:11:38.011 --> 03:11:40.006 Do any other Councillors wish to speak? 03:11:40.006 --> 03:11:41.018 No. 03:11:41.018 --> 03:11:43.006 We put the motion to a vote. 03:11:43.006 --> 03:11:44.018 All those in favour. 03:11:44.018 --> 03:11:46.013 And the motion is carried unanimously. 03:11:46.013 --> 03:11:48.001 We now move on to 03:11:48.001 --> 03:11:50.001 - and that's eight, Councillor Wellington. 03:11:50.001 --> 03:11:52.007 Councillor Gazzard is still out of the meeting. 03:11:52.007 --> 03:11:54.017 We now move on to 4.16, s6 Instrument of Delegation 03:11:54.017 --> 03:11:56.013 - Council to Members of Council Staff. 03:11:56.013 --> 03:11:59.023 The purpose of this report is to present the s6 Instrument of Delegation 03:11:59.023 --> 03:12:03.011 from Council to members of Council staff which has been reviewed 03:12:03.011 --> 03:12:06.008 and updated following changes to relevant legislation. 03:12:06.008 --> 03:12:07.021 Do I have a mover of a motion? 03:12:07.021 --> 03:12:09.008 Councillor Schonfelder 03:12:09.008 --> 03:12:10.021 - as per the motion? 03:12:10.021 --> 03:12:12.008 Seconded Councillor Barker. 03:12:12.008 --> 03:12:14.011 Councillor Schonfelder do you wish to speak? 03:12:14.011 --> 03:12:16.005 CR ADRIAN SCHONFELDER: No, thank you. 03:12:16.005 --> 03:12:17.017 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: No. 03:12:17.017 --> 03:12:19.005 Councillor Barker? 03:12:19.005 --> 03:12:20.019 CR PAUL BARKER: No, thanks, Mayor. 03:12:20.019 --> 03:12:22.024 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Anyone else wish to speak? 03:12:22.024 --> 03:12:24.011 No. 03:12:24.011 --> 03:12:25.024 We put the motion to a vote. 03:12:25.024 --> 03:12:27.011 All those in favour. 03:12:27.011 --> 03:12:28.024 Motion is carried unanimously. 03:12:28.024 --> 03:12:31.009 Once again, that's eight, Councillor Wellington. 03:12:31.009 --> 03:12:33.005 Kate Gazzard is still out of the meeting. 03:12:33.005 --> 03:12:35.017 CR HEATHER WELLINGTON: I did have my hand up to speak. 03:12:35.017 --> 03:12:37.015 I just wanted to say that these are really 03:12:37.015 --> 03:12:39.002 important documents. 03:12:39.002 --> 03:12:42.011 We're relying on officers to tell us if there's any substantial change or 03:12:42.011 --> 03:12:45.017 anything we should be aware of because they're so (inaudible) that's 03:12:45.017 --> 03:12:47.011 all I wanted to say and I did vote for it. 03:12:47.011 --> 03:12:48.023 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Great. 03:12:48.023 --> 03:12:50.011 Thank you. 03:12:50.011 --> 03:12:51.023 Sorry about that. 03:12:51.023 --> 03:12:54.001 With the delay with your internet, it was hard 03:12:54.001 --> 03:12:56.023 to see that you were wanting to speak, so apologies on that one. 03:12:56.023 --> 03:12:59.010 We now move on to 4.17, Conflict of Interest Records. 03:12:59.010 --> 03:13:02.003 This item presents Conflict of Interest Records received 03:13:02.003 --> 03:13:03.021 since the previous Council meeting. 03:13:03.021 --> 03:13:05.017 Do we have a mover of a motion? 03:13:05.017 --> 03:13:07.004 Councillor Bodsworth 03:13:07.004 --> 03:13:08.017 - as per the motion? 03:13:08.017 --> 03:13:10.011 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: Yes, thanks, Mayor. 03:13:10.011 --> 03:13:12.002 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: And a seconder? 03:13:12.002 --> 03:13:13.015 Councillor Stapleton. 03:13:13.015 --> 03:13:15.021 Would you like to speak, Councillor Bodsworth? 03:13:15.021 --> 03:13:17.008 CR MIKE BODSWORTH: No, thanks. 03:13:17.008 --> 03:13:19.009 MAYOR LIZ PATTISON: Councillor Stapleton? 03:13:19.009 --> 03:13:20.021 No. 03:13:20.021 --> 03:13:22.021 Would anybody like to speak to this motion? 03:13:22.021 --> 03:13:24.009 No. 03:13:24.009 --> 03:13:25.021 We'll put the motion to the vote. 03:13:25.021 --> 03:13:27.009 All those in favour. 03:13:27.009 --> 03:13:29.004 And the motion is carried unanimously. 03:13:29.004 --> 03:13:31.005 Once again, that's eight voted on that one. 03:13:31.005 --> 03:13:32.017 Now, that was 03:13:32.017 --> 03:13:34.005 - we whizzed through a few there. 03:13:34.005 --> 03:13:37.013 So there is no urgent business and we now actually have a closed section. 03:13:37.013 --> 03:13:40.001 So we have one confidential item to consider tonight. 03:13:40.001 --> 03:13:42.017 We will now say good night to everybody watching from home 03:13:42.017 --> 03:13:44.005 and thank you for joining us. 03:13:44.005 --> 03:13:46.012 Thank you for our loyal listeners in the gallery. 03:13:46.012 --> 03:13:48.004 We much appreciate your attendance. 03:13:48.004 --> 03:13:49.017 Thank you so much. 03:13:49.017 --> 03:13:53.003 And we now will need you to leave, though, so we can move into confidential. 03:13:53.003 --> 03:13:56.001 Can I have a Councillor to move a motion to go into confidential? 03:13:56.001 --> 03:13:57.014 Yes, that's right. 03:13:57.014 --> 03:13:59.001 Councillor Hodge. 03:13:59.001 --> 03:14:00.014 Councillor Allen. 03:14:00.014 --> 03:14:02.001 Thank you. 03:14:02.001 --> 03:14:03.014 All those in favour. 03:14:03.014 --> 03:14:05.009 And the motion is carried unanimously. 03:14:05.009 --> 03:14:06.021 And that's eight. 03:14:06.021 --> 03:14:09.007 Can Governance please turn off the live streaming. 03:14:09.007 --> 03:14:11.016 Thank you, everyone, for your attendance tonight.